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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: BUG_EAF322 on June 11, 2002, 05:25:21 PM
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WTF Bush thinks ????????
If any US soldier goes out off line and get's for an international court. In holland USA keep it's rights to free the soldier and if neccesary use force.
That's no way to deal with a freindly (NATO) nation
WHAT the hell does Bush thinks .
Please send this man to his normal work (farming) or playing cowboy on some ranche.
Again proof bush IQ cannot be higher than about 60.
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Erm... could you post a link? The translation is lost through the rage.
AKDejaVu
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heh where did you hear this?
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
WTF Bush thinks ????????
[SNIP, lots of ramblings]
Again proof bush IQ cannot be higher than about 60.
Hmm..yes...OR this could be taken as proof that you dont really know what you are talking about...
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Just readed something on my trip home to holland in the plane.
Been away a week .
As far as i know USA doesn't respect inernational peace court in Den Haag.
That's the clue.
:mad:
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Specifics would be nice. The example of the airman convicted (rightfully imo) of rape in Japan just a couple of months ago would indicate that we're not going to invade Holland because some GI got out of hand in Amsterdam's red light district and got arrested.
Unless you're citing a general reservation of the right to protect its citizens, which is hardly anything new.
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First Holland.....
THEN THE WORLD!!!!!!!!!
:)
-SW
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I think I'm beginning to understand now.
(For a number of reasons) The US does not recognize the jurisdiction of the International court of Justice in the Hauge. That means that any findings of that court will be regarded as non-existant by the US. It has happened before (for example, when Nicaragua took the US to court in 1980-something, Nicaragua won (apparently it is illegal to mine harbours in other nations, and train insurgents to overthrow the government) but so what? Since the US has not recognized the court, they are not bound by its rulings).
Now, the ICJ in the Hauge is the court that handles all war crimes trials (like modern Nuremberg) and there are some US servicemen that might be interesting for that court (for example, the US attacks against Serbia and Kosovo was completely against international law) so in theory the court could issue a warrant on some US military personell.
But since the US does not recognice the ICJ, this might lead to a problem.
But I seriously doubt we will see the USMC storm ashore on the beaches of Holland anytime soon.
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On the other hand, if it's legal let's do it. I'd be happy to supervise aquisition and inspection of the brothels.
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While stationed in Germany I discovered several cases of US soldiers travelling to Holland on leave. If, they had one spot of rust on their car, they could very well find their car condemned and seized. Of course, that led to a lot of US soldiers getting busted for being AWOL.
There's a lot of good in Holland, but there's a lot of BS too.
I'm betting on BS here.
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Yep US soldiers are allowed to rampage all over other countries and get away scot free at our militaries discretion.
Standard goverment issue, includes a monopoly get out of jail free card redeemable while in any foreign country.
DmdKanth
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Of cource it would not be legal. Who ever said that ? (apart from mr creativity at the top of this thread)
The US invading Holland to free some soldier arrested by the ICJ would be about as leagal as Libya invading Holland to free their Lockerbie terrorists=Not very.
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Does the US have a "Status of Forces" Agreement with Holland? That would clear all this up in a real hurry.
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
WTF Bush thinks ????????
If any US soldier goes out off line and get's for an international court. In holland USA keep it's rights to free the soldier and if neccesary use force.
That's no way to deal with a freindly (NATO) nation
WHAT the hell does Bush thinks .
Please send this man to his normal work (farming) or playing cowboy on some ranche.
Again proof bush IQ cannot be higher than about 60.
And this situation has been in place for how long?
If I were you I wouldn't be calling anyone stupid.
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Originally posted by Kanth
Yep US soldiers are allowed to rampage all over other countries and get away scot free at our militaries discretion.
Standard goverment issue, includes a monopoly get out of jail free card redeemable while in any foreign country.
DmdKanth
Thats just how it is.
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I thought anyone could invade holland
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Originally posted by Intrepid
I thought anyone could invade holland
No, I think you got it wrong. Anyone can invade France... just take a left at Belgium. Worked in two World Wars :D
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I think we should do it. Get some of those wooden shoes. Of coures we should stop and think. What if the killer Fin's take exception.
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Yah, don't want a bunch of naked men with blue swastika's chasing you down.
DmdKanth
Originally posted by easymo
I think we should do it. Get some of those wooden shoes. Of coures we should stop and think. What if the killer Fin's take exception.
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I think Netherlands has a status of forces agrement (SOFA) with the US. What that means is that any american military personnel detained or arrested by Netherland police are returned to the custody of the US military police . This was a decision made by the Dutch government, not GWB . However, if US military personel are arrested in a country that does not have a SOFA with the US the host country has complete judicial authority.
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you shall all be assimilated...if not through force...then surely culturally...
Muhahahahahahahahahahahaha
j/k eurofellas
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Back in my day the SOFA was something we walked very carefully around. It was our understanding that if we committed a crime off base, we could be tried by the local authorities. We had NO recourse to 'american' forms of justice, the bill of rights and constitutional guarentees were stripped from us the moment we stepped out the gates of the base. Furthermore, if we sufficently pissed off the military in the commision of any crime off base they promised to leave our carcasses swinging in the wind.
I seem to recall several incidents where american servicemen were convicted of serious crimes by both the military AND the local courts... and in one case where the convicted criminal did the time in the local pen.
SOFA's generally exist to give the local government recourse to address criminal conduct outside military activity. They also exist to prohibit local authority from persecuting servicemen unjustly.
Ok, now; who stole Bug's windmill?
and, are we invading to put it back?
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Oooooh God yes PLEASE invade Holland!
PLEASE USA!
And bring Starbucks with ya.
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
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Well.. regardless of how legal it is... the USA COULD INVADE HOLLAND ANY TIME THEY WANTED! Just what the hell is Holland gonna do about that? Punks.
AKDejaVu
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afaik, the lil dutch boy's finger smells like trout.
i mean, after 3 centuries with it stuck in a dike it can't smell like tulips.
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lol u guys are mean.
Everyone knows that if Holland falls, so will all the fetish websites in the net.
And what will happen to the world then, only god knows. But I wont want to live in a world like that :D
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Well.. regardless of how legal it is... the USA COULD INVADE HOLLAND ANY TIME THEY WANTED! Just what the hell is Holland gonna do about that? Punks.
AKDejaVu
That is true.
If they form some sort of resistance, I'll be one of the first armed settlers to teach them a lesson.
Civil disobedience will not be tolerated.
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Guys look, it's only a matter of time before the North Sea reclaims Holland anyway......probably by airdrop.
And as for the invasion......wouldn't take long.......here's something I read in a Dutch newspaper, written by a Cloggie: If you push a British or American soldier, he'll push you back......if you push a Dutch soldier he'll move out of your way.......unless he's on a tram in Amsterdam in which case he and the 5000 others also on the tram will tred on your foot and block the exits at your stop.
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
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We should invade Holland just for the pratice in case we have to invade a REAL threat like Samoa or Iceland. We could accuse them of spreading Dutch Elm Disease and maybe let our Boy Scouts take them out. How tough can a bunch of wooden shoe, genie pants and studmuffingy dutch boy cap wearing Hollandese Jeff Daniels lookalikes be anyway? Hell, our GIRL Scouts could free any American those tulip boys tried to hold.
Hey Holland, we would have taken you out long ago but your entire country is BELOW SEA LEVEL!! How fuggin weird is THAT?? Uh... Highest point in Holland... Mount Johansen... 3 feet below sea level... What is Mount Johansen anyway? A stairway leading down from the rest of Europe to Holland??
Hey, Holland!!! I hear water running! Oh no, this might be the big one! One toilet goes down and they have to declare a national emergency! Quick, start the pumps and jiggle the handle!
Hey Holland, What will you do when your dikes are overwhelmed by global warming and the sea level rises 3 inches and floods your entire country? Have you ever seen "Waterworld" with Kevin Kostner? Maybe you should rent it. That movie might offer you a glimpse into your future.
You guys are damn right Holland is our squeak. Any day you Dutch boys want to bring it- our ICBMs against your snowballs- you just give us the word. We are America, and we don't take no stuff from Afghanistan, Grenada or Holland. Sheeeeit.
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
We should invade Holland just for the pratice in case we have to invade a REAL threat like Samoa or Iceland. We could accuse them of spreading Dutch Elm Disease and maybe let our Boy Scouts take them out. How tough can a bunch of wooden shoe, genie pants and studmuffingy dutch boy cap wearing Hollandese Jeff Daniels lookalikes be anyway? Hell, our GIRL Scouts could free any American those tulip boys tried to hold.
Hey Holland, we would have taken you out long ago but your entire country is BELOW SEA LEVEL!! How fuggin weird is THAT?? Uh... Highest point in Holland... Mount Johansen... 3 feet below sea level... What is Mount Johansen anyway? A stairway leading down from the rest of Europe to Holland??
Hey, Holland!!! I hear water running! Oh no, this might be the big one! One toilet goes down and they have to declare a national emergency! Quick, start the pumps and jiggle the handle!
Hey Holland, What will you do when your dikes are overwhelmed by global warming and the sea level rises 3 inches and floods your entire country? Have you ever seen "Waterworld" with Kevin Kostner? Maybe you should rent it. That movie might offer you a glimpse into your future.
You guys are damn right Holland is our squeak. Any day you Dutch boys want to bring it- our ICBMs against your snowballs- you just give us the word. We are America, and we don't take no stuff from Afghanistan, Grenada or Holland. Sheeeeit.
ROFL!!!!
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Oh My, Elfenwolf!!! Best post ever!!! :eek:
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This thread has returned my faith in the people's intelligence.
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Let's invade Amsterdam and get stoned and laid.
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I used to invade Amsterdam 3-4 times a year when I stationed in Germany.
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I invade at least once a week.
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
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If an individual - a US soldier for example - commits a crime on a non-US soil, he will be subject to that country criminal law - not an international court.
International court is an organisation that is seen by many as interfering with soverenity of countries by declaring some of their subjects's actions as crimes.
Americans are afraid that that international court will decide to declare an act performed by an american in any place in the world an international crime and aresting him/her for it. Like what's to prevent the court from accusing our Secretary of State mr. Powell of invading Iraq and commiting crimes there and jailing his bellybutton once he shows up in Europe on foreign visit. Or Bush Senior for that matter for ordering it? After all, that is what they try to do with Ariel Sharon - who did not commit any crimes in Holland and have not commited any crimes while performing his duty according to the Israel.
How about Pinochet? What crime did he commit in Holland? Or even outside of Chilie? He was not considered a criminal in Chilie and never was accused of doing any wrongs in any other country. So the international court is ready to try him for something that he did in his own country for which he is not held responcible there!
If an official does something in his country's service that affects another country, the country as a whole is responcible. You deal with the whole country and demand satisfaction - using sanctions and even military force if necessary. If you are after an individual, demand that country surrenders him/her or deal with concequences.
Of course we will invade Holland if International Court jails our president of general or soldier on some silly pretext. At least I hope so. Americans are not yet ready for the world government.
miko
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Let's invade Amsterdam and get stoned and laid.
Udet
But once we won we couldn't get stoned or laid anymore :( I say, let Holland invade the USA :)
Just got back from Amsterdam actually (along with London and Paris). Great city. About like a safer, urine- and puke-free New Orleans.
Charon
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Anyway don't forget we invented the marines
And our marines don't allow girls
And our non volenteer cavalary won from proffesional USA ones
cavalry bocal in germany
Let's arrest Bush
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Holland is an ally. but i am all for the netherlands invading america...legalize prostitution and weed...then i can smoke a fatty while legally getting a snarling from a 17 year old blond spreader....
hmmm...food for thought?
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
WTF Bush thinks ????????
If any US soldier goes out off line and get's for an international court. In holland USA keep it's rights to free the soldier and if neccesary use force.
That's no way to deal with a freindly (NATO) nation
WHAT the hell does Bush thinks .
Please send this man to his normal work (farming) or playing cowboy on some ranche.
Again proof bush IQ cannot be higher than about 60.
I think Bush knew EXACTLY what would happen with the World Court ;)
http://www.washtimes.com/national/20030428-12027619.htm
Iraqis target Gen. Franks for war crimes trial
By Jeffrey T. Kuhner
THE WASHINGTON TIMES
Iraqi civilians are preparing a complaint to present in court in Belgium accusing allied commander Gen. Tommy Franks and other U.S. military officials of war crimes in Iraq, according to the attorney representing the plaintiffs.
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Originally posted by Swoop
I invade at least once a week.[/IMG]
I can picture Swoop now:
"All your coffee shops belong to us!"
:D
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BUG_EAF322: If any US soldier goes out off line and get's for an international court. In holland USA keep it's rights to free the soldier and if neccesary use force.
That's no way to deal with a freindly (NATO) nation
WHAT the hell does Bush thinks .
Not only that -
In Rumsfeld's voice: We cannot have a regime like that in Holland where a few anti-american radicals control the situation in Holland. The men and women of Holland want freedom and change. A regime like that of Holland is not compatible with our vision for Holland.
miko :rolleyes:
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I don't want the U.S. to invade Holland. They have very uncomforatble wooden shoes! But, I wouldn't mind invading the Netherlands!
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Originally posted by N1kPaz
Holland is an ally. but i am all for the netherlands invading america...legalize prostitution and weed...then i can smoke a fatty while legally getting a snarling from a 17 year old blond spreader....
hmmm...food for thought?
DAMN BEST POST I'VE EVER HAD THE PLEASURE OF READING.....
SECONDED....
THIRDED...
FOURTHDED...
can we sign anything too support this BRILLIANT most innovative idea of the century.....:D
go HOLLAND....invade those MacDonald eatin fat bellybutton americans.
even easier one....invade CANADA man..we got excellent growing spots:D...and beautiful French girls...and YES...they do shave there armpits.....muhahahaha:D
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
Just readed something on my trip home to holland in the plane.
Been away a week .
As far as i know USA doesn't respect inernational peace court in Den Haag.
That's the clue.
:mad:
US government strongly supports International Court in Den Haag - but only for all other countries on this planet :D
Regards Blitz
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Originally posted by blitz
US government strongly supports International Court in Den Haag - but only for all other countries on this planet :D
Regards Blitz
And if you follow my link above, you'll see why, for good reason!
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
And if you follow my link above, you'll see why, for good reason!
I have read that.
Every country will face that. Why US administration supported it then ????
I can't help Ripsnort, looks to me like double standart :(
Kind of "winners justice" like "Nürnberg Trial"
Regards Blitz
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This is an old thread damnit.
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Originally posted by blitz
Kind of "winners justice" like "Nürnberg Trial"
Regards Blitz
What's the point of winning if you don't get to slap the loser around?
;)
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Originally posted by Dune
What's the point of winning if you don't get to slap the loser around?
;)
Agreed :D
Regards Blitz
At least Milosowitch deserved it, has nothing to do with justice though ,if it isn't the same for all.
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This ICJ in Den Haag ( oh how stupid that sounds being repaeted by BUG and Blitz) is juat another attempt by impotent countries to try to bring down the USA. Leemme guess the head judge will be from libya, the prosecutors from zimbabwe, the jury will be russians, and the court police iranians?
Go **** yourselves and your stupid court...
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As long as they bring another fast food chain over here they can do what they want.
I am so tired of Burger King and Mc Donalds only.
USA USA
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Originally posted by Swoop
Oooooh God yes PLEASE invade Holland!
PLEASE USA!
And bring Starbucks with ya.
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
I understand Holland already has some rather fine coffeshops
(starbucks? ptui)
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Originally posted by bounder
I understand Holland already has some rather fine coffeshops
(starbucks? ptui)
I like coconut in Gronigen :D :D
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BUG_EAF.
Does your Doctor know you stopped taking your medicine?
:eek:
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Finland next!
Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be,
Pony trekking or camping,
Or just watching TV.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
It's the country for me.
You're so near to Russia,
So far from Japan,
Quite a long way from Cairo,
Lots of miles from Vietnam.
Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I want to be,
Eating breakfast or dinner,
Or snack lunch in the hall.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.
You're so sadly neglected
And often ignored,
A poor second to Belgium,
When going abroad.
Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.
Finland, Finland, Finland,
The country where I quite want to be,
Your mountains so lofty,
Your treetops so tall.
Finland, Finland, Finland.
Finland has it all.
Finland has it all.
(http://www.mwscomp.com/sounds/mp3/finland.mp3)
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Best signature block evar
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Originally posted by bounder
I understand Holland already has some rather fine coffeshops
(starbucks? ptui)
yeah but they still cant make decent coffee.*
And Starbucks was just an example. I'd like to see gangs of franchise salesmen come on over with the troops bringing the secret plans of places like: Arbies, Denny's, Eggheads, Ponderosa, Bass Pro Shops........hell just turn Holland into Europe's biggest mall (only Europe's biggest, USA prolly has bigger already).
(http://image1ex.villagephotos.com/extern/640697.jpg)
* Ok that's a lie, you just have to know what to ask for....asking for plain "coffee" will get ya roofing tar in a cup. However, asking for a tall skinny chocolate malt frappacino lattee double expresso will get you funny look and you'll be asked if you speak English.
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Originally posted by Swoop
* Ok that's a lie, you just have to know what to ask for....asking for plain "coffee" will get ya roofing tar in a cup. However, asking for a tall skinny chocolate malt frappacino lattee double expresso will get you funny look and you'll be asked if you speak English.
It's perhaps it's because it's not anymore a coffee ?
Seriously only the itialian coffee rules, rest is just a pale imitation... berk :(
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What the hell kind of news do you get in Holland? :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
This ICJ in Den Haag ( oh how stupid that sounds being repaeted by BUG and Blitz) is juat another attempt by impotent countries to try to bring down the USA. Leemme guess the head judge will be from libya, the prosecutors from zimbabwe, the jury will be russians, and the court police iranians?
Go **** yourselves and your stupid court...
tst tst grun.....
1 judge is Female and from Canada......
so here we go again.....
question?
are you calling MY country impotent...like you said in your comments......
by careful now.....cause I got some juicy 1's for you....more sig stuff.....know what I mean;)