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Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: lazs1 on December 20, 2001, 02:26:00 PM
Somebody just showed me how you could view the overall stats of a pilot for each tour, what they killed in and got killed by etc.  Very cool way to see what you are having trouble with or what is dead meat..

amon... see you decided to fly the  -1a... perhaps you could give me some tips?  I will admit, you said it was not a mediocre plane and.... in your hands it's... not.
lazs
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Post by: -ammo- on December 20, 2001, 02:27:00 PM
you just discovered this?  Yea its a nice tool, I agree.
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Post by: BigGun on December 20, 2001, 02:54:00 PM
U just figured this out? how long have you been playing this game?

Guess u truely haven't paid attention to stats.

BgMAW
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Post by: moose on December 20, 2001, 03:03:00 PM
hahahah!

definitely a nominee for 'wit of the week'
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Post by: Apache on December 20, 2001, 03:36:00 PM
Hey dufus, here's another one. Click squad ranks, then click fighter rank. Scroll down until you reach us, then click either Hooligan or The Blue Knights link. It shows a good comparison list.

I like it anyway. I'm ahead of you, neener neener.
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Post by: AKDejaVu on December 20, 2001, 04:20:00 PM
LOL!  Lazs, sometimes I wonder about the world you live in... and how you occasionally jump into this one.  :D

AKDejaVu
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Post by: Hangtime on December 20, 2001, 04:47:00 PM
My respect for Laz just went up another notch.

 :)
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Post by: Hortlund on December 20, 2001, 06:43:00 PM
So can someone explain to me how I got killed by a chute?

Steve74 ...killed by chute: 1
(Am I the worst pilot in the history of mankind or what)
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Post by: Curval on December 20, 2001, 07:06:00 PM
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Originally posted by Hortlund:
So can someone explain to me how I got killed by a chute?

Steve74 ...killed by chute: 1
(Am I the worst pilot in the history of mankind or what)

LOL....  :D

What is a Disco on those stats?  

(Probably killed by chute too  :D   :D and I have two......Steve74...perhaps you are the second worst pilot!)
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Post by: Kieran on December 20, 2001, 07:31:00 PM
Ever auger trying to strafe one?  ;)
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Post by: lazs1 on December 21, 2001, 08:39:00 AM
not that it matters but I had only netscape until this month.
lazs
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Post by: moose on December 21, 2001, 08:50:00 AM
am i the only one who noticed this:
am0n:

f4u1
kills in:2
died in:4

was there something you were trying to say lazs?  :)
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Post by: Am0n on December 21, 2001, 09:33:00 AM
Yea lazs i did decide to take up flying the F4u1 3 tours ago.. glad you noticed. before that i flew the f4ud. Whats your point? i dont fly it much anymore, why would i want to when i can fly a jug.


When did i say i was better than anyone? Your gang bang kills dont impress me, anytime you want to lazs lets take a trip to the DA. Then i can make fun of you for getting killed buy someone who has played flight sims for less than 4 months  :o
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Post by: Kieran on December 21, 2001, 09:45:00 AM
Hehe, lazs is my hero! Say what you want, but this guy has refined trolldom to a sweet, subtle art.  :p
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Post by: Apache on December 21, 2001, 10:11:00 AM
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When did i say i was better than anyone?

Just now? (see below)

 
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anytime you want to lazs lets take a trip to the DA. Then i can make fun of you for getting killed buy someone who has played flight sims for less than 4 months
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Post by: lazs1 on December 21, 2001, 10:17:00 AM
4 months?  well.... in that case your infalible knowledge of everything that is flight sims is even more impressive!  Not all that many people who have only flown for 4 months could catigorize me, my skill level, and my plane choice so aptly.   It is indeed unfortunate that the score system is conspiring against your obvious talents.   Perhaps it is the lack of "remorse for death" that is skewing the stats?
lazs
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Post by: Terror on December 21, 2001, 10:29:00 AM
The F4U-1 ia my favorite!!  My stats:

F4u-1:  46 Kills   16 Deaths

2.875 K/D ration in F4u-1

Not bad.

Terror
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Post by: Am0n on December 21, 2001, 10:33:00 AM
So how is that me saying im better Apache?

i shot down silat last night, hes far better than me. leviathn, killed him 3 times since i started playing AH (yes i marked them on my calendar :cool: ), hes a hell of a lot better than me.

those are just 2 of the many i have shot down that are better than my self, so whats your point again apache?
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Post by: lazs1 on December 21, 2001, 10:39:00 AM
that is very good terror..  it is almost 4 times better than the plane itself does overall in the arena.   perhaps your comments on how capable the plane is could be construed to be more worthwhile than amon's?  
lazs
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Post by: Kieran on December 21, 2001, 10:56:00 AM
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It is indeed unfortunate that the score system is conspiring against your obvious talents. Perhaps it is the lack of "remorse for death" that is skewing the stats?
lazs  

Quote of the week nominee here.  :)
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Post by: Am0n on December 21, 2001, 10:58:00 AM
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Originally posted by Kieran:


Quote of the week nominee here.   :)


Good to see you and apache brought your palm-palms for this thread.
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: Apache on December 21, 2001, 11:03:00 AM
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Originally posted by Am0n:
So how is that me saying im better Apache?

i shot down silat last night, hes far better than me. leviathn, killed him 3 times since i started playing AH (yes i marked them on my calendar  :cool: ), hes a hell of a lot better than me.

those are just 2 of the many i have shot down that are better than my self, so whats your point again apache?

Do you take me for a fool? I'm gonna kick your prettythang (or as you put it, Then i can make fun of you for getting killed buy someone who has played flight sims for less than 4 months) pretty much says I'm better than you.
You make a challenge knowing you're going to fail yet state that you're not? You contradict yourself sir.
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Post by: AKSWulfe on December 21, 2001, 11:05:00 AM
Just because you've killed someone who's better than you doesn't mean you outflew them or are better than them.

It most likely means you either a) got lucky, b) caught them damaged, or c) shot them down amidst a gang bang session.
-SW
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Post by: Apache on December 21, 2001, 11:07:00 AM
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Originally posted by Am0n:



Good to see you and apache brought your palm-palms for this thread.

and it's pompoms.
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Post by: Am0n on December 21, 2001, 11:11:00 AM
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Originally posted by Apache:
pretty much says I'm better than you.

Yea it pretty much could mean that, depending on who interprets it. But that statement could also have nothing to do with skill as i noted.

To answer your first question, prior to now no. But at the moment yes, i take you for a fool.
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Post by: Apache on December 21, 2001, 12:22:00 PM
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Originally posted by Am0n:


Yea it pretty much could mean that, depending on who interprets it. But that statement could also have nothing to do with skill as i noted.

To answer your first question, prior to now no. But at the moment yes, i take you for a fool.


Very well.

I have refrained from seemingly elitist replies (which I so despise) to your posts because I thought your imagined legendary piloting skills would soon evaporate once you realized that what one types on a UBB doesn't necessarily reflect one's level of expertise.

You have posted in the training forum more than most trainers yet you either choose not to implement your own advise or most likely, you can't.

You make statements that your own stats betray. You make statements about certain AC that stats do not concur with.

You now challenge an individual who most take issue to simply because he pushes their button. What you don't know is that this banter has gone on between them for "years" but they have earned that. You have not. There is a respect between them as strange as it is but they have built that. You have not.

You call me a lazs cheerleader. So be it. Be certain, I shall from this point forward call you on every statement or post you make that can be disproven otherwise.

Good day sir.
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Post by: Kieran on December 21, 2001, 12:26:00 PM
I just happen to agree with Lazs (and Apache). Again. <flails poms>  ;)
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Post by: lazs1 on December 21, 2001, 01:53:00 PM
amon..your perception of what is going on remains unerring... I am indeed a well respected and beloved icon of AH.   People slavishly agree with me no matter what I post.... It's unfair, I know but.. what in life is fair after all??  Hard to believe you have only been here 4 months!
lazs
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Post by: Kieran on December 21, 2001, 01:59:00 PM
I don't know what would happen in the DA; I know here it is no contest.  ;)
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Post by: deSelys on December 21, 2001, 02:05:00 PM
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Originally posted by lazs1:
... I am indeed a well respected and beloved icon of AH.   People slavishly agree with me no matter what I post....

You owe me a new monitor, Lazs....No way I can clean it completely of those cheese and pasta chunks...

Last time I eat while browsing this BBS!
  :mad:
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Post by: lazs1 on December 21, 2001, 02:22:00 PM
kieran... the MA is my DA.
lazs
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Post by: Am0n on December 21, 2001, 02:34:00 PM
We can make it personal apache.

So be it, have fun.  ;)
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Post by: Apache on December 21, 2001, 02:40:00 PM
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Originally posted by Am0n:
We can make it personal apache.

So be it, have fun.   ;)

Care to explain? You publicly state I'm a fool, I respond and I'm making it personal?
Sheesh.

Check 6  :D
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Post by: lazs1 on December 21, 2001, 03:05:00 PM
amon... for u to challenge apache, on any level, is.. well..... in character for you.
lazs
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Post by: moose on December 21, 2001, 03:33:00 PM
i still hope Toad nominates lazs' original post for 'wit of the week.'

that was grade A. ::applauds:: fine work!
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Post by: Kieran on December 21, 2001, 03:45:00 PM
Yes, it was; subtle, yet cutting. I must admit, I was taken in initially, and as the true meaning of the post unfolded the words took on an entirely new meaning. Of course the guys poking fun at lazs about his "new-found" knowledge make it better upon re-reading. The cherry on the Sundae is AmOn's inability to understand he is grappling with a master. He lost 'ere he began.  :D
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Post by: wulf14 on December 21, 2001, 05:08:00 PM
am0n,

Just to make sure I have the facts straight...

You told lazs that the F4U-1 was far better than a 'mediocre' aircraft in AH (as compared to the Spitfire IXE, La-7, Fw 190D-9, P-51D, etc.). Effectively you were implying either/or:

A. lazs lacked the stick skills in AH to really make it shine, or even to make it perform at an 'average' level.

B. You were better in the F4U-1 than lazs.

Well, I checked your stats for the F4U-1 from tour 22.

32 kills vs. 51 deaths.

Now 6 x .50 MGs are pretty damn easy to kill with. Really good in the snapshot.

Normally, I am the first to say that stats and k/d don't mean a thing, but this is how you appear to be judging 'poor toothless harmless ol' lazs'.

I've been around lazs in a 'furball'. I figure he averages at least a 1/1 k/d and he's never coming in with an altitude/energy advantage. I've seen him regularyly score 2 or 3 kills in less than 5 seconds. This catches my attention when it comes up in the message buffer, because some blue pig flying suckwad like lazs who don't have the balls to wear real leather pants in the cockpit shouldn't be able to do that very often. 8)

But, he does. Much to the chagrin of the foundations of many AH 'experts' reality. 8)

Anyways, to put it short and sweet - compared to lazs, you suck the peen in the F4U-1. You should probably not be lecturing on flying the F4U-1. You could maybe lecture on how to bail out of the F4U-1, but you'd be an assistant instructor for the usual probationary period.

In fact, I'm so convinced that you suck in the F4U-1, I'm ya' huckle-er I mean I will fight you in it in your precious dueling arena. Unlike your 4 months, I have only 2 months in AH, and not that many sorties. Check my stats for the F4U-1, I gurantee you have more experience in it than I do. Given your knolwedge and expertise in combat flight sims in general, you will obviously 'wipe the floor' with me in that F4U-1. I'm just to stupid to know when to keep my mouth shut.

Clumsy me.

Respectfully Yours,

Mike/'wulf14' in AH.
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Post by: Kieran on December 21, 2001, 05:23:00 PM
Careful, Wulf. You just became another cheerleader.  ;)
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Post by: AKSWulfe on December 21, 2001, 05:49:00 PM
I'd join you guys and form a Lazs cheerleading squad....

except I don't look good in a mini-skirt, panties and a push-up bra.

  :)
-SW
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Post by: Apache on December 21, 2001, 06:22:00 PM
Am0n, just so you know, I became a law enforcement officer in 1980 and worked the streets for 15 years. Although I'm not a street cop any longer, I still work for a law enforcement agency but in the computer field, namely white collar crimes and computer crimes. I just got spammed with 642 emails. I've initiated an investigation. I've been very successful in the past.
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Post by: wulf14 on December 21, 2001, 06:37:00 PM
Kieran,

With all due respect, you called it wrong on this one.

Many know I've had it out with lazs over various things in tones more ugle than the AH boards have ever seen. 8)

But the baseline for all our arguments was always 'put up or shut up'. Nothing bothers me more than a loudmouth who can't back up the accusation.

For some guy who has rarely flown a given ride to lay into a guy who spends all his time in that ride, with a pompous 'I'm so bad ass' attitude...well...what's wrong with him having to answer for his actions? 8)

If you are good, and tell people that, and back up your words with actions (or it can be verified you speak from experience, via stats, like 1000 sorties in the F4U-1 would have spoken for am0n for example), then I don't see the big deal. A guy preaching to someone about how they just suck in the F4U-1 when the preacher has <100 lifetime sorties in the F4U-1 is proving themselves to be a bit of a blowhard, no? 8)

Here's another good example. That Fw 190D-9 thread. I, personally, have no problem killing anything in the Fw 190D-9, no matter how much it turns. I'm talking 1 on 1 fights here. But I'm not going to chime in. The guys typing in that thread have many more D-9 sorties in AH than I do. So I'll just leave the topic alone. Right or wrong, 1000+ sorties in a given airframe in AH at least earns you a right to voice an opinin, at least in my book.

Catch my drift?

Mike/'wulf14'
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Post by: wulf14 on December 21, 2001, 06:52:00 PM
SWulfe,

I have a leather push up bra, being a Fw 190 Psycho.

Asked FunkedUp, he has a matching one as well. 8)

Mike/wulf14
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Post by: Kieran on December 21, 2001, 07:06:00 PM
Got it. Now catch mine- I am J-O-K-I-N-G with you. Lighten up.

As far as the other thread is concerned, I am not dismissing his knowledge, I'm arguing the conclusions he draws from them. I use humor to make points at times, perhaps mistakenly, but I didn't think Man and I took each other too seriously.

I had no idea you took this so seriously.
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Post by: Pongo on December 21, 2001, 07:13:00 PM
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Originally posted by lazs1:
amon..your perception of what is going on remains unerring... I am indeed a well respected and beloved icon of AH.   People slavishly agree with me no matter what I post.... It's unfair, I know but.. what in life is fair after all??  Hard to believe you have only been here 4 months!
lazs


IM affraid I have to agree with lazs on this one. Dont know why exaclty.
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Post by: Kieran on December 21, 2001, 07:17:00 PM
Guess I would add one more thing, though... dueling rarely settles anything. If a guy is an amazinhunk before the fight, chances are he'll be an amazinhunk when it's over. Sure, you'll probably mop the floor with AmOn, I've little doubt. Still, if the twisted logic of his postings is what is making you call him on his dueling prowess, what makes you think he'll see it any clearer if you do smack him down?

Lazs is right once again; he knows the pointlessness of such events, as do many others, I'm sure. Don't get me wrong, I'd go to the DA and watch, but it won't prove a thing we don't already know.

We had a big "Rumble" a little over a year ago, with many pilots involved. While most participants were in it for fun, two were in it for blood. It wound up pretty ugly, and did nothing to solve the dispute- in fact, IMHO it made things worse. That's history now, and things are cool, but it serves to remind us what can happen when you use a duel to settle matters.

Possible exception here might be if Man and I dueled; he first in a Spit, me in a D9, then reverse. We could go in a series, so many duels one way, then the same number the other. In reality though this wouldn't be a duel at all, rather a test. What I think would happen is he would kill me 4 out of 5 regardless of the rides, but that is only my guess. Still, if I thought ego had anything to do with it I wouldn't touch it with a 10-foot pole.

Which is why I would never accept AmOn's challenge to seemingly everyone. There is nothing positive to gain by it.
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Post by: Apache on December 21, 2001, 07:22:00 PM
Posting this again for the benefit of Am0n. Lots of posts since then  :)

Am0n, just so you know, I became a law enforcement officer in 1980 and worked the streets for 15 years. Although I'm not a street cop any longer, I still work for a law enforcement agency but in the computer field, namely white collar crimes and computer crimes. I just got spammed with 642 emails. I've initiated an investigation. I've been very successful in the past.
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Post by: wulf14 on December 21, 2001, 07:38:00 PM
Kieran,

Sorry - I haven't really read enough of your posts to catch on when you are joking. Know what I mean? It takes a fair amount of reading someone over the internet (for me at least) to really catch humor ever time.

As for toasting him in a duel, it probably wouldn't change him. It would put a brief smile on my face however (assuming I took him in the duels), and be one more thing to clobber him with the next time he decides to mouth off.

As far as taking it seriously, within the context of AH - sure thing. People only have so much free time in the world. People spend valuable free time trying to have a good, competetive time in AH. If some idiot detracts from the overall experience, he's going to draw the ire of some people.

I guess the best way to put it is this - I probably can't change him, but I'm not going to hide my annoyance.

Dueling one on one does have its points. For example, am0n made it clear that he thought lazs was a substandard stick in the F4U-1 compared to himself. If someone like me, with zero time in the F4U-1, can hand am0n his bellybutton in that F4U-1 in the dueling arena, it goes a long way towards showing tha am0n's opinion in the matter is basically weightless. That's what I was getting at.

Kind of like k/d, k/s, any stat - dueling doesn't prove everything, but it does prove something. At least in my opinion.

See you up there,

Mike/wulf14
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Post by: Kieran on December 21, 2001, 09:03:00 PM
No prob, Wulf. I know you don't know me, I understand. I do recognize you from WB (I assume you are the same Wulf from WB?). I know you are a high-time virtual pilot, and AmOn would not likely fair well.  ;)

As might be noted from the spate of stuff I have heaved upon the board this week (I really am only procrastinating from work- lethargic for the holidays and all) I try to stay light. Once in a while I dig a little deeper than I should, though... and I have been known to debate longer than is wise. We have our faults, I suppose.  :D

Seen you in the Fw on the Rook side, and can tell you I am glad you chose us!
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Post by: batdog on December 21, 2001, 11:56:00 PM
What exactly did Am0n do? I've never heard any neg talking from him on channel 1. His posts seem okay. I'd say he's hardly an expert at this game but then again nethier am I. It looks like he made some comments about the f4? I'll listen to some guys comments on any plane cause heck..even if they suck in it they MIGHT have some sort of observation about it I never considered.

 Oh and his card isnt great (And for the record mine aint ethier but I am happy w/my postive 38 furballing ratio..lol) but he's certainly making big improvements.

 As far as his reply's here are comcerned... if your getting cornered you tend to fight back.

 I just remember certain indiv's aka Gunman whatever his name was that seemed to be MUCH worse than Am0n...

 
 xBAT
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Post by: wulf14 on December 22, 2001, 12:37:00 AM
batdog,

The general gist of it is this. In some other thread, lazs was the whipping boy for the majority of the posts (it was the 'action first place lots of fields close together vs. people who disagree' type deal, if memory serves).

Anyways, lazs was the minority, and said something to the effect that he likes a challenge that's why he's in the mediocre at best F4U-1A in the middle of a Spitfire IXE/N1K/La-7 furball.

am0n basically chimed in to effectively say "I don't know what you are talking about lazs, the F4U-1A is not mediocre it's probably just your flying".

lazs did some digging and found out that am0n basically doesn't know d*ck about flying the F4U-1A when compared to lazs in terms of sorties in aircraft type.

So he's improving - so what? There are tons of guys learning AH that don't have some phony and totally unfounded air of superiority. If you are going to dish it out, especially when the basis for your dish is a total lie, don't be surprised when you get some back.

So that's it in a nutshell.

For me...hey, if some TAS guy told lazs he didn't know d*ck about flying the AH P-51D, you'd never hear me chime in... 8)

Mike/wulf14
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Post by: moose on December 22, 2001, 12:52:00 AM
i thought it was funnier when you had to figure out the troll on your own  :)
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Post by: batdog on December 22, 2001, 12:55:00 AM
Oh, point made then.

xBAT
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Post by: Toad on December 22, 2001, 12:56:00 AM
None of us in TAS actually know d*ck about flying the P-51.

We just ordered the optional "kill button" on our FE from HTC for an extra $35/month.
I can't believe more guys don't buy this option. What's another few bucks, eh?

Once we get you in the front view and push the "KB"... well, you're toast. Only thing is, it takes about 2 minutes to recharge and the range is only 600 yards..

We're thinking about going the extra $55/month and getting the "Mega-Kill" button... that baby recharges in 30 seconds and goes out to 1K!

****

anyway, thanks to all.. got some good laffs reading this thread and it is a definite "source" for next Wed.

 :D
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Post by: lazs1 on December 22, 2001, 09:29:00 AM
the MA is my DA.
lazs
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Post by: lazs1 on December 22, 2001, 10:12:00 AM
"Kieran,
With all due respect, you called it wrong on this one.

Many know I've had it out with lazs over various things in tones more ugle than the AH boards have ever seen. 8)"

Damn... those were the days eh woofie?  Makes me get all misty.
lazs
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Post by: moose on December 22, 2001, 04:28:00 PM
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Originally posted by Am0n:
We can make it personal apache.

So be it, have fun.   ;)

sooooooooooooooooooooooo..... ...?

poor form.   :(
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Post by: SirLoin on December 22, 2001, 05:06:00 PM
I only discovered that stat feature too a few weeks ago(been flying since beta).I would always click into ranks/stats page..Great feature in knowing what planes you need work on.  :)
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Post by: Kieran on December 22, 2001, 06:17:00 PM
Clearer now, Moose?   :(
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Post by: Thrawn on December 22, 2001, 07:45:00 PM
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Originally posted by SirLoin:
I only discovered that stat feature too a few weeks ago(been flying since beta).I would always click into ranks/stats page..Great feature in knowing what planes you need work on.   :)

I only discovered it recently also, much to my chigrin.  As far as what plane I need working on...oh all of them.  ;)
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Post by: pbirmingham on December 24, 2001, 03:49:00 AM
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Originally posted by Toad:
None of us in TAS actually know d*ck about flying the P-51.

We just ordered the optional "kill button" on our FE from HTC for an extra $35/month.
I can't believe more guys don't buy this option. What's another few bucks, eh?

Once we get you in the front view and push the "KB"... well, you're toast. Only thing is, it takes about 2 minutes to recharge and the range is only 600 yards..

We're thinking about going the extra $55/month and getting the "Mega-Kill" button... that baby recharges in 30 seconds and goes out to 1K!

I take it you don't know about the M-M-M-MONSTER KILL button, eh?

(Actually, I'd be happy with a "teleport buff" button.  I'd teleport them another sector further out, and 10000 feet lower.)
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: Am0n on December 24, 2001, 07:21:00 AM
Quiet a humerous post. The only way i can "defend" my self here is to duel it out, just like any other "new" person on the BBS or in AH you all gang up on. So you dont except my challenge to fight, and mock me for it. Well i dont except your challenge on the BBS, thats what ...
"We can make it personal apache.
So be it, have fun. " means, im exiting the conversation. Which i did, until my squadmate comes to me concerned that i should read this post because im being acused of "spamming" apache. Thats a rediculous assumption.

Not at any point did i say i was better than anyone, as a matter of fact i can be found most of the time mocking how bad i am at AH.

Since you guys like pulling stats thought i would also join the fun.

For your enjoyment lazs:

am0n has 23 kills and has been killed 19 times in the F4U-1. Thats about average for me, you would note i dont have a better k/d in most other AC.

Also thought i would do some furballing in my b26 this weekend, you woulda had a blast.
am0n has 31 kills and has been killed 30 times in the B-26B. didnt try to drop a single bomb, except for on my runway before take off.

You would also enjoy:
am0n has 15 kills and has been killed 4 times in the Ostwind. One of these was a tempest who thought it was a good idea to attack a flak panzer    :confused:  lol

And good bye.

[ 12-24-2001: Message edited by: Am0n ]
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: Am0n on December 24, 2001, 07:31:00 AM
ROFL i just noticed wulf14  
 joined in on the fun... the same who made a 3 page post when he came to AH saying "i'll be flying high intercetping bombers, if you see one up let me know" hahahaha  :eek:
Take it that wasnt working out?

Wolf any time you are online and you want to get shot down let me know, i would be abligded to do it for you in the DA.

Make sure you get the facts strait next time, none of what you posted is true.
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: SirLoin on December 24, 2001, 08:10:00 AM
SirLoin has 35 kills and been killed ince in the P51D

Yeah,I'm starting to like this feature!.. :)
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: Kieran on December 24, 2001, 08:28:00 AM
AmOn-

Point to where I've ever called you a name. You on the other hand call me a cheerleader.

You have challenged several people to duels in the DA, promising to beat them. In my native language (English) that equates to you saying you are better than them. You finished the last post above doing it again. You would be ignorant to either not see this or if you do, deny it.

You have called Lazs a gangbanger and skill-less. Yet, I have never seen you anywhere but in the middle of a furball swayed heavily in our favor. Not that I care, because I am there too, therefore as guilty as any. I just don't make any pretences about it.

You have just insulted Wulf, which if he is the Wulf I remember (and he is) he would be one of the best Fw pilots of WB; more than a handful for someone that is self-described as "awful". You might get a kill on him, but I'm betting more often than not you'll get hammered. It won't change you, but as he said it might make HIM feel better.

You feel you are being ganged- well, you are. You walked into a crowded room swinging your arms, and now you can't see why the guests in the room are upset with you.

I disagreed with you on your perception of what the arena should be, and you have been upset with me since. Apache and Lazs also disagreed, and now you lump us together. I think if you were around a bit more you would realize we are all different, we just happened to intersect on that point. I have strongly different views from Lazs on many points. Apache is not as outspoken, but I'm betting he disagrees with Lazs and me on other issues, too. Not that you care, but we don't try to resolve those differences by challenging one another to a duel.

As far as Lazs is concerned, Lazs is Lazs. Love 'im or hate 'im, he usually states his point of view in an incisive manner that cuts to the heart of the matter. He makes me laugh aloud with his imagination and sense of humor, and the board wouldn't be the same without him. This of course does not mean I agree with his agenda (concerning buffs, et. al.), but I can still laugh at the expression of his viewpoint without getting upset. I put Creamo and Easymo in the same category- guys that seem to peel away the distractions of an argument and focus us on the point. They also usually make me laugh aloud in the process, though I may not agree with them.
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: Am0n on December 24, 2001, 08:47:00 AM
Keiren i take it you didnt read a word of my post, thats typical. If you could refernce the section about dueling.

Also ive never had a personal problem with you, yes i call you a cheerleader beccause you are, any contriversial(sp) post you can be found posting "wait till lazs sees this", or something to that effect. Deny it and i'll spend the rest of my long borring fruitless work day reading old post and showing you the truth.
 
None of you know me, youve given me great portfolios of other players that you have taken the time to study, now study me. I'll start off buy saying you cant take offense to me talking trash, its not meant to be-little, or shouldnt be taken personal. Simply just pushing your buttons, a little hazing shouldnt hurt anyone, even lil ol you.

Referring to my post were we had a discusion, i dont think you took me right. I didnt leave that discussion angry at anyone, your opinion is yours, you just seem to think you speak for the whole cummunity. Not until this post did i feal i would be better off with out your company, now i have another persons post to skip when im reading a thread, youve reached the ranks of lazs in my books.

on the gang banging issue, you realize there are 40 people in my squad? Nearly anywhere we go its a gang bang, but i like to wing up with my buds and get kills. Normaly i can be found flying "lone wolf" when my squads not present. I logged 200 hour last tour, you seeing me a few times would would only be a very small portion of my time in the MA, what i do the rest of the time you do now know.


finnaly, I didnt challenge Wolf, i except his.. with great humor i might add.
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: lazs1 on December 24, 2001, 09:02:00 AM
amon... your a crybaby and a liar and less than a mediocre stick.
lazs
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: wulf14 on December 24, 2001, 09:02:00 AM
am0n,

The intercept thing actually worked ok.

I just haven't had that much free time lately, thus my low # of sorties, low # of hours online, etc.

It's been pretty interesting to see people's reaction to being a 'decicated high altitude interceptor' (most of that was done in the TOD in Nov.) - after about 1 hour of asking for bomber reports, etc. I got some pretty good feedback. When I get some more free time I'll be doing it some more.

I'll be sure and look you up in the DA. If you see me first be sure to message me.

Mike/'wulf14', etc.
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: Am0n on December 24, 2001, 09:06:00 AM
wulf hi alt fighting is where its at, good fun up there.

I wont be waiting in the DA, i'll be in the MA. Nearly ever night im there so be looking for me. We can go to the hi alt area and meet over the water. should be fun.

We can see how that luftwussie plane holds up to 8 50's  :)

[ 12-24-2001: Message edited by: Am0n ]
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: Kieran on December 24, 2001, 09:10:00 AM
Let me boil your last post down for easier reading:

I'm losing on logic, so I'll change my story to "I was just pushing your buttons, you don't understand me is all".

I've read all your stuff. Trying to skate out on the latest line won't wash.  ;)
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: Am0n on December 24, 2001, 09:16:00 AM
Let me boil down your post, to clear out the merky water effect..

It really reads, "amon busted me out, burst my bubble and i had to make my self feal better buy posting nonsense, insted of replying to what he said."  :)
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: Kieran on December 24, 2001, 09:19:00 AM
Yeah, well my mom can beat your mom up... oh, wait... "If you want, we can go to the DA and I'll kick your butt..."  :D
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: Am0n on December 24, 2001, 09:24:00 AM
ROFL!

nuuuhh hhuhhh!! my mom can.. well your mom probably could, but my dad will beat up your dad!

Anytime Keiran  :)
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: lazs1 on December 24, 2001, 09:46:00 AM
we have all read your posts amon... kieran was very clear.  you are not responding to him.  You are a liar and a hypocrite.  everything he said about you in his last post was true and to the point and I can't believe that anyone who has been following your posts doesn't see it.

You accuse me of gangbanging (me and apache, some gangbang eh?) yet you admit to gangbanging with 40 other guys backing you up.  I have watched you turning tight little circles on the deck with 4 other friendlies trying in vain to kill a lone con.  I, and apache have shot cons off you when you got careless and only had a 2/1 advantage and became the hunted.

You get upset because people don't "fly to live" but then accuse me of flying to live.  You claim the hog is more than a mediocre furball plane yet it has a .75/1 k/d and you do even worse in it.   You give advise when you can't even fly yourself.   You talk about 5 and 9 kill sorties like they were common for you yet you can't maintain anything more than a 1/1 K/d even with all the help I allways see you with.   Worse... you claim to be flying to live.

You are a crybaby and a liar and a hypocrite.  You are a less than mediocre stick but that's no big deal... live with it.. get better and shut up about it.  

Most of the old timers here don't care about the "stats" or what you say... they know who you are by flying with you in the arena.  Have some patience and people will eventually know who you are.... one way or another.  

I will admit tho that being me is something to aspire to.. I'm sure you would enjoy the slavish devotion and adulation that is mine every time I post.
lazs
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: Pyemia on December 24, 2001, 01:15:00 PM
Just remember, theres always someone better then yourself and your always better then some other person.


In the MA I sometimes think i'm great, get a nice streak going, then I meet someone better and my dream is shattered  :D

Am0n, just relax and bow out of this thread S!.


PS.  User Profile has a nice squelch feature.

Zygote

  :D
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: ~Pyroman~ on December 24, 2001, 01:23:00 PM
Alot of you know me and I don't ever get involved in squabbles like this one.  But being one my the pilots I fly with are in it I just need to say a few things.

If Amon wants to be in this pissing match with you guys.  Even knowing I asked him not too I just want to make a request.  Please don't hold his views with the views of the Nightmares VMF-101.  

One thing I don't care for is trolling the boards or being a troll myself.  But if people choose to do that then that's there choice and their right   :) .

But guys like mentioned earlier in the post it is the Christmas season and not to sound rude (because I'm honestly not), but let the pissing contest go.  I see that feeling and ego's were hurt.  Read what ALL of you are writing in the latter part of this post.  You've degraded yourselves to calling each other names.  I know you are all better then that.  ;)

With that being said Apache this doesn't apply to you because you've constrained yourself and have kept it professional.  

To the rest of you Merry Christmas and I hope it's a joyious one and a safe one. <S>.

Just let it go my friends   :)
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: Kieran on December 24, 2001, 02:31:00 PM
Not much to say except Am0n's a big boy. If he can't play nice, that doesn't reflect on you in my book.
Title: you guys see the "overall stats" thingie?
Post by: ~Pyroman~ on December 24, 2001, 06:20:00 PM
You're a good man Karien. <S>