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Title: Saitek Gaming Extensions and Aces High
Post by: caron_k on June 13, 2002, 12:12:56 AM
I am trying to set up aces high to work with Saitek's gaming extensions.  My controller is the Saitek 3D Gold USB joystick.

I have the latest version of the Saitek software and have been able to program a couple of buttons.  When I start Aces High, the game doesn't seem to recognize the newly programmed buttons.  Does anyone have any idea why this might be?

What I'm really looking to do is to be able to push one button on the joystick and have it do the same thing as pushing the "5" key on the number pad.  This would allow me to look "up and around" in addition to just looking "around".  Unfortunately, it seems really tough to get this "programable joystick thing" working.

Is there a better or easier joystick?  Am I wasting my time with this one?

Any help greatly appreciated!

KEVIL
Title: Saitek Gaming Extensions and Aces High
Post by: Qnm on June 13, 2002, 07:30:58 AM
I don't remember the exac sequence of install-uninstall partially-reinstall, but there is a way to do it so that the Saitek software works.
When I first plugged in the Cyborg, it and the buttons were all recognized by Windows, so I didnt think of installing the software (in comparison to you?), but once I did the Logitech Wingman formula force steering wheel I had hooked up for its pedals became incompatible, the Cyb. joy. stopped working when the pedals were plugged in in AH.
So I then install the SGE cd, and it makes the hat only 4way, other directions not recognised anymore.
After that is the series of SGE, beta and not, and WindowsOS cleanups that eventually made it work except with the pedals.
The last few drivers were supposed to get better, but as it was for me, it seems it can go alright of much worse, for ex. everyone was using 3d party drivers with their Saiteks, but the reinstalls worked for me.
Of course this is probably not interesting to you as it's really tedious trial&error.

The following is without any experience with other sticks:
The Cyborg is good, the twist rudder is not too bad despite what you might think if you come from using pedals; even if they were crappy, and certainly better than for ex. the X45 rocker rudder.

The Cyborg I had for a year recently broke its twist axis, and was replaced by a '45. It's better, but almost not worth the price (unless you must have a HOTAS setup) if you depend on your rudder precision for most shots.
Title: Saitek Gaming Extensions and Aces High
Post by: snafu on June 13, 2002, 03:31:32 PM
Hi caron_k,
 You dont give any system details (OS etc) so perhaps this won't apply to you....
I have been using a Cyborg for a good few years now (1st gameport - Don't even go there......then USB).

First things first... It is very important that you install the software before you plug in the stick - Even for a nano second. If you attach the stick first Windows grabs it and SGE will never work properly. If you have attached the stick first (Or are not sure) unplug the stick and run the utility "nuke USB" (It should be part of the installation) then uninstall the software. Nuke USB blows any memory of your stick to windows away)

Next reinstall the software (It will ask for the stick during the install). Finally calibrate in windows. You will know if the install has worked if you click on the "Test" tab in "game controllers" it should look similar to the attached image (depending on OS, version etc). Otherwise you will just see a list of DX buttons etc.

Programming it seems quite easy and I have most functions on my stick with several buttons having more than one function. I could send you my profile if you like (It's set up for a left handed player though).

Let me know how you get on.

TTFN
snafu