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Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: DarkglamJG52 on June 14, 2002, 03:58:33 PM: Today, I hit La 7 in the fuel tank at d150y with NS-37mm(37 x 195 (735 g)-- Muzzle velocity 900 m/s) and for my surprise the La 7 continued flyng. Was the the La 7 a flying panzer or NS-37 was a crap? was more dangerous Mk 108 hit that NS-37 hit? I need the opinion of the experts.
Film here(3 mb) (http://petra.euitio.uniovi.es/~i0214219/La7panzer.ahf) The film has 20min, move to min 10. I pinged La 7 three times, the 37mm was in the second, with me at 6 oclock low.

...and of course I am a whiner dweeb that fly with low fuel and have bad gunnery.

Thx. Sorry for my "rubbish" english.
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: Samm on June 14, 2002, 05:31:23 PM: Were you firing both mg and cannon at same time ?
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: Samm on June 14, 2002, 05:51:45 PM: Just watched the film. You hit him with one 37mm round and he started leaking white smoke, no visible damage . I would think that one 37mm hit should do much more damage . I have dismembered b17s from 1700meters with the flak yak . Very odd that it didn't damage that La7 more than just a fuel leak .
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: Pongo on June 14, 2002, 06:08:47 PM: Lots of planes survived 37mm hits. Alot depends on where the round hit. whether it exploded in the airframe etc.

Flap hits on la7s sometimes show fuel leakage..its a bug..
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: empire2 on June 14, 2002, 06:29:22 PM: LOLHAHAHAHAHA JG52 got jipped hahaha
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: Wilbus on June 14, 2002, 07:59:01 PM: Then again LA7's in AH take more dammage then the Panzer in AH.
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: Kweassa on June 14, 2002, 08:09:53 PM: They are not particularly tougher than other planes, but somehow, all those super "lucky" instances of taking heavy hits and surviving seems to come from La-7s and P-38s. I've got two experiences of hitting someone with a MK108 and they getting out alive, the first was a P-38, and the second was a La-7, who also was hit on the flap area and got the fuel leak bug.
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: Soda on June 14, 2002, 09:21:37 PM: I hit a C202 once with a 37mm and it flew away. I've also hit a Ki-61, TWICE, same deal. 37mm isn't a magic bullet 100% of the time, although I have NEVER hit a wing with it and seen anyone escape without the wing breaking off. It seems to be that fuselage hits can "appear" to cause little/no damage. Then again, that's just luck, usually even a single fuselage hit is fatal with 37mm.

-Soda
The Assassins.
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: BenDover on June 14, 2002, 09:34:17 PM: the ns-37 in ah is crap

i once hit a b26 in the fuselage with 5-7 rounds (and i was only firing 37mm) and he showed no signs of damage

1 ping on the wing took it off though, should that really happen?
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 14, 2002, 09:46:54 PM: The bombers take tremendous numbers of MK108 and NS37 around the fuselage. This is very suspicious since US testing showed that a single MK108 hit to the tail area of a B24 would most likely cause the whole rear fuselage area to fail, or would at leat cut every control cable and cause the plane to be uncontrolable and crash. Now a B24 was one of the weakest heavy bombers of WW2, but the smaller B26 could not have been much stronger. Ever seen what a single MK108 hit does to medium bomber fuelage, the british did tests and its quite interesting. The Lancaster also takes a ton of 30mm to the fuselage.

All I have just said is false because I never flew MK108 equipped Bf109s, and when I did fly them I fired the 13mm MG as well so we cant say what those hits were. BTW I never fired at bombers either. :rolleyes:
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: Tac on June 15, 2002, 12:26:57 AM: and ive hit Zekes with the 262's quad 30mm and the lil' bugger flew away with a fuel leak. Gawd darnit. Them packets be on weed!
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: Wilbus on June 15, 2002, 05:38:54 AM: Bombers react very weird to the big guns, a single 37mm should be enough to bring the whole wing off. It's just not a blast area twice as big as a 20mm, it's HUGE.
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: BenDover on June 15, 2002, 06:49:34 AM: this is a picture that shows the area where i think i hit it, was a while ago

now, correct me if i'm wrong, but shouldn't 5-7 37mm course big enough holes to cause it to break apart?
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: BenDover on June 15, 2002, 06:52:25 AM: forgot pic
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: SELECTOR on June 15, 2002, 07:31:42 AM: a 37mm shell should disintergrate a little fragile airplane...
seen pics of panzers hit by these guns and they aint soft..

i think this is an area of investigation...
if you opt for a low ammount of ammo in favour of destructive power you should expect some return for your choice..
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: SKurj on June 15, 2002, 08:17:11 AM: I've killed fighters out to d1.1 with 1 ping from the 37mm on yakt, but i have also hit guys to see em fly away... rare tho...

SKurj
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: Wilbus on June 15, 2002, 08:18:30 AM: One 37mm hit in that area should most lilely kill it, and most definatly kill the waste gunners. a 37mm doens't make a small explosion.
Title: NS-37 underpowered?
Post by: BenDover on June 15, 2002, 09:06:12 AM: he'd more than likely have droped his bombs, would that make any difference?

remember, 5-7, not just one