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Title: Straight drop?
Post by: DmdBT on June 15, 2002, 08:11:13 PM
I make no claim to being a "pilot" or knowing anything much beyond the most basics of how flight works. That being said, how can a plane drop straight down on its belly to the ground in a stall? My 110 ceased forward movement and dropped like a rock, not spinning at all, just falling. No stick movement would affect anything, as I gather it shouldn't because no air movement over the surfaces. Just a straight drop. I tried cutting engines... I tried WEP... tried just about everything but it continued to fall STRAIGHT DOWN, shouldn't the engines have pulled me forward a bit?  The fall was over 10k feet. Is this a physical possibility or is there a black hole in the FM somewhere that I fell into?

Lonz
Title: Straight drop?
Post by: Heinkel on June 15, 2002, 08:37:37 PM
I fly the 110 a lot, and have never had that happen to me. Every time i have stalled in the 110, i have been able to get out of it rather quicky. Do you have a video? this sounds odd.
Title: Straight drop?
Post by: DmdBT on June 15, 2002, 08:59:25 PM
I do have it filmed, started it at about 11k and ran it to the ground. The setup was I had chased a F4u into the vertical and ran speed to 0 then started a tailslide which flopped me horizontal and got stuck there in the fall. I was expecting the nose to drop as always has happened in the past with this and other fighters.
On reviewing the film I am at a slight left bank and have a very slight left spin which I assume is from the wing down. Speed stays between 100-104 mph, WEP on and engine off.
Guess I should have leaned forward to tip the center of gravity a bit.   :)

Lonz
Title: Straight drop?
Post by: Tac on June 15, 2002, 09:34:59 PM
he went into a flat spin.

you know, like the one that killed GOOSE in Top Gun? ;) (gawd i hate to use this movie for FM references lolololol)
Title: Straight drop?
Post by: SKurj on June 15, 2002, 10:35:47 PM
i dropped a yakt in an inverted flat spin from at least 10k straight down

did the same in another aircraft... can't remember which it was now...


SKurj