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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: AKDejaVu on June 17, 2002, 12:31:59 PM
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I have been called a cheater in this game and even moreso in another. Virtually every time it happened, the individual calling me a cheater "confirmed" my cheating by insisting he could duplicate the cheat himself. Many were quite insistant on this.
Imagine how odd it is to see this when you weren't cheating at all. What does that tell you about those running around screaming "cheat" at virtually every opportunity?
It told me quite a bit about another community... and it is beginning to tell me quite a bit about some members of this one.
AKDejaVu
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The only person who has ever called me a cheater was my wife.
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I think my dog is cheating on me.
He doesn't listen to me.
He comes home smelling of neighbors milk bone.
He's not marking the yard like he used to, but instead drifts over to the fence staring into the yard next door.
What am I to do?
How to I bring him back to me.
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Does that mean there are NO cheaters?
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There are cheaters/hackers around Mighty1... but do they exist in the numbers people make it out to be? Not at all.
Do they reside in this game? Not for very long. It's usually easy to tell who's cheating and who isn't... just because you got outflown doesn't mean the other person is cheating, all programs have checksums to test for program modification or corruption. It ain't easy to modify a program without it either not running, or without it to not be detected.
-SW
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I got called a "cheater" last night for the first time..........I blushed with pride. My crowning moment, being called a cheat because some guy couldn't figure out how I kilt his ack hugging butt over his own field with the 5" guns on a CV.
Most folks who make the "cheater" allegations simply don't understand what happened to them, thus, whoever killed them is a cheater.
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
Imagine how odd it is to see this when you weren't cheating at all. What does that tell you about those running around screaming "cheat" at virtually every opportunity?
It told me quite a bit about another community... and it is beginning to tell me quite a bit about some members of this one.
AKDejaVu
I like to be called a cheat. Gives me the warm fuzzies.
Or not the warm fuzzies but the I kicked yo arse and you cant take it chuckles ;)
You know you dont cheat, take it as a compliment.
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my favorite cheater is the YOU KNOW HOW TO FLY AND CAN KILL ME AND YOUR NOT IN A SPIT YOU MUST BE A CHEATER...thats how pathetic this is now
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Originally posted by Mighty1
Does that mean there are NO cheaters?
Not at all. It means that there aren't nearly as many cheaters as there are accusations.
AKDejaVu
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and don't forget the cheat that is defined as gaming the game cheat. there are those that think when you take advantage of an aspect of a game that it is "cheating". i know... a whole other can of worms...and i ain't gonna open it.
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The problem is that there ARE cheaters here just like any other game and it's not always easy to tell if someone is cheating or is just flying well.
I don't go around yelling cheater to everyone who kills me but there are several people who I KNOW are cheating and get away with it.
To many cheerleaders out there that will defend someone even though they weren't around to see the cheat and don't believe the proof that was put in front of them.
I don't make a big deal about it because it wouldn't do any good.
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Originally posted by eddiek
I got called a "cheater" last night for the first time..........I blushed with pride.
Being called a cheater by any long time and vocal AH veteran is the ultimate complement!
I'm an M3 cheat 'cause I killed his FW engine :rolleyes:
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You got proof mighty1? Where'd you post it? I'd like to see it. Fact is, I ain't no cheerleader... I am a computer guy though. I know how they work. I know how programs are designed, and I know how they can be damaged very easily by hacking..
So just remember that before you call someone a cheerleader, they may just have a much better grasp on how computers operate and how programs are designed than you.
However, if your proof is that he started co-alt and co-e and same speed as you, I won't believe it's a hack or a cheat. Simply because certains planes have more drag and this can lead to certain planes bleeding energy faster than others. Then, on top of that, the internet is no more reliable than a car that's never had it's belts, oil & oil filter, air filter, fuel injector and starter plugs changed/cleaned.
-SW
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Originally posted by Mighty1
The problem is that there ARE cheaters here just like any other game and it's not always easy to tell if someone is cheating or is just flying well.
I don't go around yelling cheater to everyone who kills me but there are several people who I KNOW are cheating and get away with it.
To many cheerleaders out there that will defend someone even though they weren't around to see the cheat and don't believe the proof that was put in front of them.
I don't make a big deal about it because it wouldn't do any good.
You know... every single person that has ever called me a cheater has said something very similar.
Yet they were still wrong.
And to this day not a single one realizes it or would even acknowledge the possibility.
Its amazing how deeply rooted ignorance can be.
AKDejaVu
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I've never had anyone call me a cheater. Not even Fester, who is always cordial with me, regardless of who wins or loses. In fact, I have experienced very little poor behavior. It's rare that I hear any whining directed my way, with the exception of the occational newby dismayed at why or how he died. Even then, they only want to understand how they got smacked.
My regards,
Widewing
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In six years of playing on-line flight sims, I've never once encountered someone who I felt was even remotely cheating. That's not to say that cheating doesn't exist... we have screenshot proof from years ago that someone was able to do silly things to a B-26. However, I consider it so uncommon as to have never been something I've come across in any fight I've ever fought.
And I've fought a lot of fights against a lot of people.
Accusations of cheating are ego self-defense mechanisms not unlike tennis players blaming their rackets or golfers blaming their clubs for poor play. They're able to cope with their own fallibility by displacing responsibility to someone or something else. Of course it had to be the racket. Of course it had to be the putter. Of course it had to be the other guy cheating.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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I wish someone would accuse me of cheating, but allas I am not yet worthy :(
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How does IL-2 have the "Cheating has been Detected" pop up when you are online? What does it mean & does anything happen to the cheaters there?
Couldn't AH put something like this together? If someone/something can "detect" it, you'd think someone/something could boot you auto like ...
I don't think there are cheaters in AH in any numbers - if at all. In all my time, I haven't seen any. I think poor conns are the source of pretty strange looking stuff, not someones programming skills...
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someone might have accused me of cheating, but since .squelch 1 is the first thing i do in the game, i didn't hear them! ;)
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That is a completely false message Eagler, I don't even know why the hell they had that spur of genious to put that in there. It's a complete waste of programming- it does nothing more than detect lag and/or if someone temporarily loses connection to the host. So basically, you lose a few packets.. or your ping shoots up for a couple of seconds and that stupid message shows up.
It was supposed to detect use of that "speed hacK" thing, but it only really detects lag and not actual cheating/hacking.
-SW
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Witness the general level of intellectualism required to accuse one of cheating...
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
In six years of playing on-line flight sims, I've never once encountered someone who I felt was even remotely cheating. -- Todd/Leviathn
Oh..I dont know..there was that one night about a year ago that you shot down about a dozen assassins in a row in your spit v...
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Originally posted by Mighty1
The problem is that there ARE cheaters here just like any other game and it's not always easy to tell if someone is cheating or is just flying well.
I don't go around yelling cheater to everyone who kills me but there are several people who I KNOW are cheating and get away with it.
To many cheerleaders out there that will defend someone even though they weren't around to see the cheat and don't believe the proof that was put in front of them.
I don't make a big deal about it because it wouldn't do any good.
I've never observed anyone in AH that I thought was cheating, where is this "proof"?
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How about this...
If you get caught cheating in AH you get banned.
If you call someone a cheater here or on the coms when they didn't you get banned <-burden of proof on the person throwing out the accusations.
I think that kinda puts my oppinion on most of these threads into perspective.
AKDejaVu
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Agreed DJ. Falsely accusing someone is slander/libel and should be punished even if only by ridiculing the moron making the accusation. There has been an increasing amount of it going around in the MA. It's often so ridiculous that it's hard to tell when it's serious and when it's not.
Even if I was certain and had proof that someone was cheating I'd keep it between myself and HTC for fear of being thought an idiot.
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I got accused of cheating for the first time in over a year of playing Aces High, a few weeks ago. I was flying a Typhoon near a base where enemy planes were upping on their way to attack one of our bases. I was making diving attacks on them as they climbed out, but after a kill or two, I made the mistake of turning with one to finish him off. Soon about five of them were all over me, and it was a running fight just to get away. For about three minutes, I ran, jinked, rolled, and did everything I could think of just to stay alive. My Tiffie was shot up but still running fine. Finally, almost out of gas, I made the coastline and dropped down to treetop level at full speed as I ran for home. A Mustang finally ran me down and droppped me.
As I crashed, I looked up at the text buffer to see that I was being accused of cheating by two or three of the enemy pilots. They all claimed to have seen me "conveniently warping on demand" as I evaded them in the three minute fight. One said that he had video and intended to send it to HTC. Somebody else that I didnt even know, jumped in and claimed that he had seen me cheating earlier. My first reaction to these accusations was a burst of anger. I do not take kindly to anybody accusing me of cheating, lying, or any other dishonest behavior. I come from a family of real life warriors that values honor above everything else. I would never sacrifice something that is as valuable to me as my integrity in order to gain a silly advantage in a computer game, and I dont appreciate people accusing me of the same.
After a moment of anger, I relaxed and my second reaction was pretty much the old "sticks and stones may break my bones but words can never hurt me". Yet I was rather annoyed that people would make these foolish accusations. I didnt worry about the silly threat about sending the film to HTC, I believe HTC has more sense than to listen to that kind of foolishness. I am sure it was possible that my plane was warping, the internet was rather unstable that night, and I had a poor connection (very unusual for me) and was actually disconnected later that night. At least one of these persons was a member of a squad that I respect very highly, although I do not know that person personally. Another person on my team told me I should feel good, that it was an achievement to be proud of when people accuse you of cheating, and while I do find that somewhat amusing I cannot take such an accusation lightly. The whole incident left a bad taste in my mouth, and I quit playing for the night shortly thereafter due to irritation over this as well as the crappy internet connection.
I havent really thought about it much since then, until now, as I read a general discussion board here that is full of talk of cheating. I guess my point is, dont be so quick to pull out the cheating accusations. There may be some people cheating or trying to cheat, but they are very few I believe. I refuse to believe that this game community that I love has very many people that have so little integrity as to cheat at a game. You may say its a small thing, but I can assure you that I wouldnt trust ANYTHING to a person that would cheat at AH or any other game. I have no respect for any sort of low down person that has no more honor than that. And next time you see my airplane warping, instead of questioning my honesty, try politely asking me to relog.
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Leviathon wrote; "...or golfers blaming their clubs for poor play"
I happen to know that it is my golf clubs that cause my poor play.;)
TKOR
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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
Then, on top of that, the internet is no more reliable than a car that's never had it's belts, oil & oil filter, air filter, fuel injector and starter plugs changed/cleaned.
-SW
That isn't some kinda poke at Al Gore is it? Grrrr
:D
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Originally posted by tkor
Leviathon wrote; "...or golfers blaming their clubs for poor play"
I happen to know that it is my golf clubs that cause my poor play.;)
TKOR
Right handers should use right handed clubs...see if that make a difference :D
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Last night, Rauml (a usually level headed guy) accused someone of cheating and yelled that he had video of it.
I suggested that he post it to the BBS so we could all see the cheating, but he suddenly had a change of heart and responded that he would only post the film if, after he sent it to HTC, they confirmed that cheating occurred.
Finally, after a bunch of people started challenging him to post the film, he targeted me and started calling me a dweeb, just because I disagreed with him.
Very funny stuff! I'm no cheerleader, but when someone refuses to provide proof or evidence of their accusations, said accusations suddenly seem a lot less likely to be real.
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Guys, I'll admitt that there are way too many people that cry "CHEATER!!" or "HACKER!!!" at the first hint that they've been out flown. I think most of you will agree that I'm usually the first one to say "got film?"
But don't kid yourself and think that it doesn't happen. And its probably alot more common than you think.
SpeedHacks (very common in shooters, and hard to detect), playing with your connection, and even custom built packet filters/memory editors for individual games. They're out there, and people use them.
And realize that unless they're extremely stupid, there is no way to have "proof", because its subtle. For instance using the speed hacks with a hotkey and increases your internal clock speed by 1.5 only when in trouble, and the connection squeezers/packet filters can always be blamed on "netlag".
Its real, and they're out there. Just not as commonly as is blamed on Channel 1 ;)
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Originally posted by Chairboy
Last night, Rauml (a usually level headed guy)
You realize that this statement discredits the remainder of your post, don't you? :D
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We know their real Verm... but they are far less common in pay 2 play games than in other games... such as Il2 where speedhack was the talk of the town for a while, and in FPS games where the script kiddies reside.
I'll say this much, if anyone hacks that I've flown against... they need new cheats/hacks, cuz they ain't workin'.
But you know just as well as I do Verm, that the first thing someone does when they get beat and they don't understand how... they yell hack or cheat over the comms or post it on a BBS somewhere.
-SW
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Leviathon...
the screen shot u posted makes me wonder.... do you take seriously everything u see on channel 1?
JB42 is my CO and has been flying for over 6 years in various sims. back in the aol air warrior days his squad "the Jabostaffel" had a base named after them. i know alot of pilots here have known him for a long time and know that he is a stand up palyer, giving credit where credit is due.
personally i was online back when he typed that message and if you didn't see the "LOL" right away after the "cheater" message i hope you look again. he was mearly poking jest at being bested by another pilot the way alot of newbies do. in other words he was having fun... isn't that what this game is all about?
both he and i have yet to wittness an actual cheater though we've all heard the myths of variable throttle and 100's of bombs.
on a personal note Jb42 and i share a common thought about cheating... if you have to cheat to play a game you need to find another game to play
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"there is no way to have "proof", because its subtle. For instance using the speed hacks with a hotkey and increases your internal clock speed by 1.5 only when in trouble"
I could use the speed cheat in *any* Windows game I desire... with virtually no chance of being caught.
What's amazing is I stumbled onto the method while working on a non game related PC issue.....and after searching the net for info it appears no one has exploited it for cheating.
I'll never use it, and won't tell anyone how to either....so don't ask. :p
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Originally posted by JB73
the screen shot u posted makes me wonder.... do you take seriously everything u see on channel 1?
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Do you? I view such accusations, heartfelt or not, with amusement. It is, after all, a compliment of sorts. However, you also fail to mention that JB42 persisted well beyond his initial statement. The "joke" wore thin after awhile, especially when it served as an enabler for Rauml to spam Channel 1 about my purported cheating.
personally i was online back when he typed that message and if you didn't see the "LOL" right away after the "cheater" message i hope you look again. he was mearly poking jest at being bested by another pilot the way alot of newbies do. in other words he was having fun... isn't that what this game is all about?
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Yes, but having fun by accusing others of cheating is not the proper way to enjoy oneself in AH. And it sure seemed like he wasn't joking after awhile.
both he and i have yet to wittness an actual cheater though we've all heard the myths of variable throttle and 100's of bombs.
on a personal note Jb42 and i share a common thought about cheating... if you have to cheat to play a game you need to find another game to play
I agree 100% there. Hell, I don't even raise my view position for snapshots over the nose... seems like too much work when I can just learn to do it the old fashioned way.
I've attached more of last night's hilarity to the end of this message.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Durr said:
As I crashed, I looked up at the text buffer to see that I was being accused of cheating by two or three of the enemy pilots. They all claimed to have seen me "conveniently warping on demand" as I evaded them in the three minute fight.
Same thing happens to me rather frequently. I go running for my life doing every jink and roll I can do that doesn't kill too much speed and hopefully will spoil their aim just enough that I'll live long enough to out-run them. And no matter whether or not I live or die, if I make them miss even once, I usually get accused of "warp rolling" or "warp on demand".
There is, AFAIK, no such thing in reality. Instead, my studied opinion is that there's some big jump in plane model detail or something similar that kicks in when you close to about 200yds. Which of course corresponds to when most people are trying to shoot. If your video settings ain't perfect, this can cause a big FPS loss and make the target suddenly start jumping all around, nearly impossible to hit, especially if it's jinking and rolling like mad.
It's really insidious because at all other times your FPS can be great, including flying around low over burning airfields and fleets. So you think your settings are fine. Then you're chasing a plane and everything's cool until just as you're starting to squeeze the trigger, and suddenly he's blinking and stuttering and you can't hit him. Because you think you're video's fine, it must be something on the target's end. And because it happened just as you were shooting, it must have been intentional, so you call him a cheating bastard.
Even more insidious, your settings might be able to handle a 1-on-1 chase of a jinking target, but suppose you're in a dweeb mob chasing me or Durr at low alt as described above. Now you've got several friendly planes all within very close, high-detail, FPS-sucking range of you. Plus all the tracer they're putting out and the dust and splashes from missed shots, plus ground clutter maybe, etc. So you and all the friendlies around you have major FPS problems and nobody can hit the target, which is visibly stuttering and blinking and doing strange things due to your low FPS. The target's continued survival looks even more improbable than in the 1-on-1, due to the volume of bullets going by him, so the stuttering looks all the more deliberate, especially because it doesn't happen to you 1-on-1. So now you not only call the target a cheating bastard, you send the film to HTC.
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Hm. This thread is getting stale. Better spice it up with yet more definitive proof of my cheating courtesy of Rauml, still going strong one hour after his initial tirade last night. :)
-- Todd/Leviathn
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We don't give people popups to warn them of their cheating, we bar them from playing. If you're going to try to cheat, why would we warn you about it? That's not the kind of person we want playing this game. The difficulty in cheating is to cheat and be undetected. Cheating extends much further than just hacking the client. We do deal with mem hacks, and hardware and speed hacks, from time to time. We're very clean because of the clientele we attract, the subscription requirement, and the means we use to police it. We don't discuss it generally because it's a problem we want to fight on a personal level, not a technological one. Our anti-cheating approach is to use tech as a means to the end, not the end itself, and that's why we choose to be discreet about it.
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IMO, to cheat is the most disrrespectfull action you may do into a simulator (a bit worse than flying spits ;) ).
IMO, the punishment should go further than just banning then quietly, their existence hurts any community more than anything else. Post their nicks in a black list, post their e-mails, dont ban them, just mark their planes with a general pink icon for enemies and friendlies and deactivate the killshooter for them, let our guns do the work :mad:
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Wow :)
What a moderate post Mandoble ;)
May I participate ?
KILL THEM
BURN THEM
KILL THEIR CAT
KILL ...
:p && :D
Frankly I don't care of cheater provided HTC boot them on time :)
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Originally posted by straffo
KILL THEIR CAT
LOL, I like the idea :D
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Its djust Gaming the Game :D
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Personally I look forward to the day of being called a cheater with a smile. And as a compliment that my skills are so good that adviseries think I'm cheating. Excellent :-)
...-Gixer
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I'm glad they will have the new anti-cheating software active in 1.10. Just click the new "I need a trainer" button.
Drex
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Let's see if I have this right!
1) I can't tell anyone but HTC if I catch someone cheating.
2) If they don't belive me then I should be banned.
Makes sense!:rolleyes:
Look I couldn't care less if you belive me or not but I HAVE caught people cheating and I had proof AND other witnesses.
It's just not worth the headache I get from all the cheerleaders who want to defend their idol before they see the proof that they don't want me to give to anyone else but HTC.
Hell you don't even have to name names and some people start defending their idol.
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That's what people say when they don't have anything other than off the wall accusations, Mighty1.
-SW
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Mighty1, if you publicly accuse someone of cheating you better be able to prove it publicly.
What is the point of claiming you have proof that there are cheaters without providing it to those to whom you have made the claim?
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what hes saying is there are about 5 guys who live on this bbs and live to fight htcs battles for them. (even tho htc has repetedly asked them to not do it) public acusations of cheating are frowned on here why ? got me, guess they think it will drive away bussiness. fredom of speech is checked at the door that is htcs perogative, a bad decision in my opinion but like they care what i think. the cheerleaders/bbsgustapo can make obnoxious posts and get away with it all day long. seems like a double standard to me, but once again like they care what i think. with their holier that thou antagonistic behavier that seems to be disliked but tolerated by htc. they cause many more problems than they solve imho and have run off more players than anything else in this game. its just the way the game is. htc i suspect is like a bad parent in this respect(once again in my oppinion) these guys are totaly obsequious when talking to htc so the other behaviour is tolerated. what can you do . play or quit.
just the way it is.
p.s. wont even talk about cheatin been there gave up.
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Yeah, well, Towd, I've been accused of cheating for several years now. I had some jack tulips following me from games giving me challenges to duel them and all kinds of crap. It got borderline psychotic (I say borderline, because it was an ego boost for me)... I'd duel these fools, beat them hands down, they'd say I lost and then accuse me of hacking or whatever.
Complete dolts, and I don't hack/cheat... never have, couldn't even if I wanted to. But after a while, the cheating accusations dull your senses and you come to the realisation that these people will throw out the "cheater/hacker" accusation everytime they get bested... without even so much as an inkling of proof or anything that would point to anyone being hacked aside from assumptions. People hear about hackers and cheaters and naturally assume that if someone is really good, then they are a hacker/cheater.. and they never bother to understand anything otherwise.
So just remember- if they is better than you- they's a cheata' or a hacka' ... no one can be that good that they beat the snot out of you repeatedly.... or can they?
-SW
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Freedom of Speech isn't freedom to slander. Everyone should realize that calling someone a cheater is a personal attack on anothers integrity.
While I make allowances for youth, not without admonishment. Simply being a newbie does not excuse one from very bad manners.
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Originally posted by Mighty1
Let's see if I have this right!
1) I can't tell anyone but HTC if I catch someone cheating.
2) If they don't belive me then I should be banned.
Makes sense!:rolleyes:
Yep.. to most it does.Look I couldn't care less if you belive me or not but I HAVE caught people cheating and I had proof AND other witnesses.
Likewise.... I'm sure that everyone you have called a cheater was actually cheating. Right? I mean.. you wouldn't just throw it out there just because you saw something you couldn't figure out and simply assumed it was a cheat... right?It's just not worth the headache I get from all the cheerleaders who want to defend their idol before they see the proof that they don't want me to give to anyone else but HTC.
diddly you.
Its not about being a cheerleader. This has nothing to do with HTC nor the "it's impossible to cheat" misconception. This has to do with how so many people scream "cheater" at the smallest thing and how that type of attitude is promoted. Your attitude and many others do that to the n'th degree.
Like I have said many times and will continue to say... cheater accusations are usually used on people that did not cheat. The small percentage of the time it was a valid complaint does not justify all of the false accusations. End of argument.
AKDejaVu
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Oh my Dega....
Anyway, DNF is the best fighter pilot in AH, period.
Just ask him.
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"diddly you." AKDEJAVU
would get anyone else banned but not super akcop. its stuff like this i dont understand. you have sucessfully antagonized somone on the bbs about cheating. then pulled the higest curse word you can think of. and are acting self rightous about it. im not gonna insult you cause i cant say the things you are allowed to. its the double standard that sucks.
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*sigh*
I dream of the day that I attain the skills needed to be accused of cheating. That will be a proud day.
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TOWD, with all due respect, ahem, with al doo reespekt, your fighting a “whoa is me banned” fight, having zilch to do with anything.
It’s the worst simpleton dig into a topic.
Your not adding anything, but “look at poor me and my past tardedness.”
Reload, then think.
Just saying....
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Originally posted by Creamo
Anyway, DNF is the best fighter pilot in AH, period.
Do you mean DMF? You'll never catch me saying that.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying
Do you mean DMF? You'll never catch me saying that.
-- Todd/Leviathn
I meant as a spoof, DNF. As in Nascar, “Did Not Finish”.
Incredibly, you missed the whole joke.
I WON’T ask you again who's the best fighter pilot in AH. lol, (you won’t get it) I’ll just ask Nath.
Man, what a tool.
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Originally posted by Creamo
I WON’T ask you again who's the best fighter pilot in AH. lol, (you won’t get it) I’ll just ask Nath.
Man, what a tool.
Right-o.
BTW... Candygram for Mongo.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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creamo im must be a metal retardate. or my weak as hell writing skills have let me down again.
not being as elequent as some . i have to watch myself and try not to resort to slander and anger. somtimes i fail and have payed and will pay again im shure. i agree ( tho i hate the word tard)
but i think what is didnt say clearly is, ohh how i would love to vent my spleen like akcop does every day.
there was a old will rogers quote tha went somthin like
im not gonna step into the ring with trotski.
I.E. you win
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Welcome back towd.
AKDejaVu
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What? Now to further showcase your embarrassment, you resort to explain why everyone born before 1970 and into Rush who has had to loath through 700 showings of Mel Brooks “Blazing Saddles” , who might just dig on K Wests initial “Candy Gram for Mongo!” post, trying to be somewhat clever and turn it into a Rush reference is.... what is your agenda?
Funky didn’t get it, jumping on the bandwagon makes you …
Never mind. Hence the DNF.
And I equally loath the Spaceball reruns. Men in tights is sucha toejam movie as well.
Towd, god bless you, but i have no idea what you just said.
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Originally posted by MANDOBLE
IMO, to cheat is the most disrrespectfull action you may do into a simulator (a bit worse than flying spits ;) ).
Thread hijack
I agree cheating is very bad but comon, flyin spits is bad??
IMNSHO flyin LWS is a heck of a lot more cowardly than flying spits. Heck ya play BNZ then run to mommy with yer tail tucked after 3 passes. Not saying that that isnt the way LUFTwusses spposed to fly the BNZ birds, but sheesh its candyarse way to fight. Least a spit has to stay in the fight.
Fast planes are for runners. :D
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Originally posted by Creamo
What? Now to further showcase your embarrassment, you resort to explain why NOT everyone born after 1970 and into Rush who has had to loath through 700 showings of Mel Brooks “Blazing Saddles” , who might just dig on K Wests initial “Candy Gram for Mongo!” post, trying to be somewhat clever and turn it into a Rush reference is.... what is your agenda?
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My embarrassment? I wasn't aware I was embarrassed by your trifling little jabs at me from out of nowhere. You should really stop trying to be so clever though, since lately you haven't been up to the task. DNF is a joke? It's an obscure reference, and it's not even funny if you do get it. It merely looked like a hurried typo, not some sort of multi-layered cleverfest.
Funky didn’t get it, jumping on the bandwagon makes you …
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If a preponderance of the people don't "get" it, then you're the one with the problem, not them.
And I equally loath the Spaceball reruns. Men in tights is sucha toejam movie as well.
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I agree. I'm not a Mel Brooks fan either. History of the World, Part 1 is really about the only thing of his that I've consistently enjoyed over the years.
Towd, god bless you, but i have no idea what you just said.
This goes without saying. It's when you DO understand what he's written that it warrants writing something in response.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Creamo Towd, god bless you, but i have no idea what you just said.
ROFLOL!!!! Creamo, you surelly would crash all and every english/spanish translator in the known world and part of the outer space. I just need to "use the force" to have a minimum clue about the meaning of your previous posts.
What Towd wrote along this thread is as nonsense as usual but, at least, easy to translate :D
X2Lee, a 190 will BnZ a Turninadime plane, but at the same time, will dogfight other planes like P51 and similars.
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Heh, DMF BBS cartwheels just like a Spit V.
Super entertainment.
I'm ALT F4, work looms.
Nath is a youngster, but in no way can be manipulated on the BBS like you DNF. Thanks for the laughs. Poof.
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Originally posted by Creamo
Heh, DMF BBS cartwheels just like a Spit V.
Super entertainment.
I'm ALT F4, work looms.
Nath is a youngster, but in no way can be manipulated on the BBS like you DNF. Thanks for the laughs. Poof.
LOL You're losing it, big guy. The only thing you manipulated me into doing was laughing at your inanity. If somewhere in there you've convinced yourself of your own cleverness, I'm happy to oblige.
Seriously though, you used to be funny. Now you've ventured into the realm of the obscure and the unhilarious, which I suppose is fine if it makes you laugh. That's what counts isn't it?
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Ya'll need to quit usin' such big words.
South Carolina ain't 49th in education fer nuthin' ya know.
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Funky didn't get it either Apache. And if you could quote 4 of the 7 sentences of the initial poster, you'd be more viable.
Work on that.
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Deja, you're off the board until sometime after the release when I'm in a better position to waste my time dealing with this kind of crap.
Towd, you've never been reinstated to this board and you're only here on borrowed time. If you want to stay, you better quit working at turning your persecution complex into a self-fulfilling prophesy.
As for others who just want to come to this board to fight, I've had enough. It will stop. Either learn to express yourself in a civil manner or get out.