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Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Maniac on June 18, 2002, 05:37:00 AM
Please let the rest of the world have its fun, its only once in 4 years...

Its almost like the regular US citizen feels threatened (sp?) by soccer.

The regular us citizen aproach to soccer : "i dont like it, so it must be toejam"
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Staga on June 18, 2002, 05:55:48 AM
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Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Maniac on June 18, 2002, 05:56:42 AM
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Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: moose on June 18, 2002, 06:31:50 AM
Why do you think we're scared of soccer?

I happen to like the sport

Is the rest of the world scared that we didn't go 0-3 and out?
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Maniac on June 18, 2002, 06:43:42 AM
No, im happy that the US does well in this WC. And its really nice to see americans who like soccer :)
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: moose on June 18, 2002, 07:14:38 AM
You confused me Maniac - where did you get the notion most Americans thought soccer was toejam?

Maybe there was a post somewhere I missed?

to another football fan either way :)
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Maniac on June 18, 2002, 07:26:05 AM


Mebbe its not that bad, i read both boards so i guess i get double dosage of the negativism :)
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Swager on June 18, 2002, 07:26:28 AM
because I dont understand the rules.

Anyways, hockey should stay in Canada and;

Soccer should stay in England or Scotland or Spain or wherever it was invented.

Silly game anyways,  they dont wear any pads!!!

Heck, golf makes more sense for that was invented in Florida!

:)
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Eagler on June 18, 2002, 07:27:23 AM
LOL

"scared" must have a different meaning in Sweden :)

I don't think the average American is "scared" of your football. Are you "scared" of ours?
I'd be "scared" to watch a match live over there with the riots/fires/stadium collapses we see on the tele here of your "games" over there ...
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: scspook on June 18, 2002, 08:00:44 AM
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Originally posted by Swager
Heck, golf makes more sense for that was invented in Florida!

:)



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The origin of the game of golf has never been clearly established.

The Romans during the reign of Caesar played a game resembling golf by striking a feather-stuffed ball with club-shaped branches.

Book illustrations show the Dutch playing a similar game on their frozen canals about the 15th century.

Cross-country variations were popular in France and Belgium.


In 1457 golf was banned in Scotland because it interfered with the practice of archery, which was vital to the defense effort. Nevertheless the Scots continued to brave the opposition of both Parliament and church by playing the game on seaside courses called links.

Scotland is the home of the world's oldest golf course, St. Andrews, which was used as early as the 16th century.

Golf became firmly established in Great Britain by the 17th century when James VI of Scotland, later James I of England, was attracted to the sport.

The Royal and Ancient Golf Club at St. Andrews, the cradle of golf, was founded in 1754.

During the 1800s the gutta-percha ball, or "gutty," replaced the feather-filled ball that had been used for centuries.

In 1860 the first British Open was played at Prestwick, Scotland. The competition was opened to both professionals and amateurs the following year.

The first permanent golf club in North America, Canada's Royal Montreal Club, was founded in 1873.

St. Andrews, one of the oldest golf clubs in the United States, was established as a 3-hole layout in 1888 at Yonkers, N.Y. Its founders were known as the "Apple Tree Gang" because of the many apple trees on their course, which was extended to 6 holes on a cow pasture.

During the next few years numerous 6-, 8-, 9-, and 12-hole courses were opened in the East.

The first 18-hole course in the United States, the Chicago Golf Club, was founded near Wheaton, Ill., in 1893.



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Individual coutries have argued for decades as to who invented the game of golf. The Scots and Brits have the best documentation and here is two links to help you learn more for yourself.

The first is a timeline of golf from iGolf.

The second is an article written by By Malcolm Campbell titled "Battles Lost But A Game Won , The Illustrious History of Scottish Golf" , this is brought to you by World Golf.

To return to "Not Just Another Golf Page" use the back button on your browser when done reading these files.





Tournament Golf and Champions

The governing body of golf in the United States is the United States Golf Association (USGA), which was founded in 1894. The organization, whose headquarters are in Far Hills, New Jersey, rules on ball and club specifications and such regulations as hazards and scoring. It works with the Royal and Ancient Club of St. Andrews in reviewing international rules.

The Professional Golfers' Association of America (PGA) was founded in 1916, 15 years after the first Professional Golfers' Association was established in Great Britain. It conducts the PGA and PGA Senior tournaments and Ryder Cup competition between members of the American and British PGAs.




Doesnt look like you can lay claim to that hehe.  Now...Gator wrestling may have been invented in Florida. We will let you have that one :p
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Sancho on June 18, 2002, 08:21:48 AM
What gave you the idea Americans are "scared" of football (soccer)???  :D
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Post by: AKDejaVu on June 18, 2002, 09:03:19 AM
We are so scared of soccer that our 5 year old children and women play it.

AKDejaVu
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Post by: Mighty1 on June 18, 2002, 09:04:00 AM
Why should we be afraid of a girl's sport?:p
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on June 18, 2002, 09:28:33 AM
I would be afraid for it's hooligans

hmmm USA sports no violence
:rolleyes:
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Fatty on June 18, 2002, 09:47:25 AM
When is the world cup?
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Ripsnort on June 18, 2002, 09:58:40 AM
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
I would be afraid for it's hooligans

hmmm USA sports no violence
:rolleyes:


We don't have fan violence during the game...its only after a city's team has won a championship, then just about everyone under 30 comes out of the wood work to burn their own neighborhoods down...LOL! :)
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: midnight Target on June 18, 2002, 10:01:19 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort


We don't have fan violence during the game...its only after a city's team has won a championship, then just about everyone under 30 comes out of the wood work to burn their own neighborhoods down...LOL! :)


In LA we only burn cars.

Detriot is the place to aviod after a win.
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: capt. apathy on June 18, 2002, 10:06:11 AM
many americans like soccer.

the rest of us aren't affraid of it.  we are bored by it however.

don't feel singled out I'm bored by just about any sport involving a ball.

but as for my particular reasons for being bored with soccer, let me give you a breif summery of what i see when i try to give soccer a chance and watch a game.

run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, run, (then 2 -3 days later) run, run, run, GOOOAAAALLLLL!!!!
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Eagler on June 18, 2002, 10:09:57 AM
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Originally posted by Ripsnort


We don't have fan violence during the game...its only after a city's team has won a championship, then just about everyone under 30 comes out of the wood work to burn their own neighborhoods down...LOL! :)


Not much burning going on down here  (Rays, Lightning, Bucs :))
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Ripsnort on June 18, 2002, 10:24:19 AM
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Originally posted by Eagler


Not much burning going on down here  (Rays, Lightning, Bucs :))


Nor Seattle! LOL!
Title: Scared of Soccer!!??
Post by: midnight Target on June 18, 2002, 10:30:40 AM
Hell yes!

Anything THAT boring, with the ability to hypnotize the entire world must horrifically dangerous! I think it is probably an Al Quaida plot to take over our children.

AYSO......sure

Al Quaida
Youth using
Soccer to
Oust the Infidels
Title: Re: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: miko2d on June 18, 2002, 11:14:26 AM
Maniac: Please let the rest of the world have its fun, its only once in 4 years...
 I do not even want to adress stupidity of your other statements concerning americans' indifference to the boring game of soccer, but why do you personally need US approval to have your fun?

 miko
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on June 18, 2002, 11:25:50 AM
But as far as i heard fans sitting mixed in the stadion ?
without trouble
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: lord dolf vader on June 18, 2002, 12:09:22 PM
will never forget a coach walking down the hall bouncing a soccer ball in a small se texas town. he was almost in tears as now we had to play the new game since the injurys from the phys ed tackle football had gotten out of hand. and this sport was mandated cause it was cheaper and less violent. ( this was when if you started a fight there was no attempt to stop it if they were even match, both partys got whiped afterward but men had the right to fight )

after about 50 punctured soccer balls they gave us our foot ball back . and we had to play flag football.


soccer just aint violent enough for us. and and a game where being 400 lbs is no advantage at all is just alien to us.
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Hortlund on June 18, 2002, 12:10:21 PM
You think soccer is boring? You should try cricket. There a game lasts for days, and it is easier to understand how a woman thinks than understand those rules.
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: lord dolf vader on June 18, 2002, 12:12:03 PM
by the way i just to have to block mark henry if you know who he is. was like trying to slow down a tractor.
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Maniac on June 18, 2002, 12:38:41 PM
Nah you are all djust scared :D
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: funkedup on June 18, 2002, 12:52:13 PM
Vader summed it up nicely.  
In the US we only play soccer until we get old enough that the authorities will let us play tackle football.

PS Mark Henry the WWF guy????? Geezus!!!
My only claim to fame is that I sacked Jack Trudeau's brother and injured him.  :)
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: midnight Target on June 18, 2002, 12:54:57 PM
I got a pick of me taking a jump shot over Ronnie Lott. Yes that Ronnie Lott.
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: lord dolf vader on June 18, 2002, 12:55:52 PM
he grew up here in sillsbee with his brother patrick . sweet guys but really really big . ( they have a uncle that makes mark look small if you can believe it.) i was their troop leader for a while. in boy scouts. we were all fat as hell and quite happy. all 3 grew up huge. they much more so than me.
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Dead Man Flying on June 18, 2002, 01:03:36 PM
Scared?  No.

Bored?  Yes.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: vorticon on June 18, 2002, 01:17:36 PM
americans dont like soccer cause its the only game they cant play worth crap...
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: mietla on June 18, 2002, 01:23:07 PM
Why?

That's why ....


(http://www.raf303.org/mietla/soccer2.jpg)
(http://www.raf303.org/mietla/soccer3.jpg)
(http://www.raf303.org/mietla/soccer4.jpg)
(http://www.raf303.org/mietla/soccer5.jpg)
(http://www.raf303.org/mietla/soccer6.jpg)
(http://www.raf303.org/mietla/soccer7.jpg)
(http://www.raf303.org/mietla/soccer8.jpg)
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: SunKing on June 18, 2002, 01:57:48 PM
Dont think it's the game really , rather the fans/crowds.
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Eagler on June 18, 2002, 02:08:57 PM
hehe

the photos above explain the reaction of these "fellas" :)
Title: Re: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Kanth on June 18, 2002, 02:11:32 PM
I wasn't aware that the US was stopping the world from having fun.

We must be pretty damn powerful.

No wonder you care what we think. :)

DmdKanth

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Originally posted by Maniac
Please let the rest of the world have its fun, its only once in 4 years...

Its almost like the regular US citizen feels threatened (sp?) by soccer.

The regular us citizen aproach to soccer : "i dont like it, so it must be toejam"
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Nifty on June 18, 2002, 02:33:53 PM
damn Eagler, I didn't know you played for Argentina!  You're the one on the far right, correct?

:D
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Post by: Ripsnort on June 18, 2002, 02:58:32 PM
ROTFLOL Mietla, stole one of those, Thanks! :D
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Post by: Otto on June 18, 2002, 03:39:02 PM
Citizens of the United States have many faults.  

But being 'scared' isn't one of them.
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: rogwar on June 18, 2002, 04:34:46 PM
I am following the world cup continuously. There is a stereotype of people in the USA that we don't know about or like "futbol" or soccer. I have seen such in Europe and Latin America.


In addition, some words of wisdom fellow gringos.  I have a lot of experience with other cultures and have had to endure learning two other languages in addition to my native english. I recommend giving people where english is their second language the benefit of the doubt. Speaking from experience and mistakes that I have made in the past, it's very difficult to translate what may be humorous in one language and culture to another.

Be careful how you say, "sorry I embarrased your daughter" in Spanish.

rogwar
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Post by: Manedew on June 18, 2002, 07:03:12 PM
don't belive everything you read in the paper

i stayed up to 4am to watch the WC live; USA vs Mexico
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Post by: Elfenwolf on June 18, 2002, 07:05:57 PM
OK, you REALLY wanna know why Americans hate soccer and the World Cup? It's because we've never WON the damn thing! And we're used to winning everything because we're Americans.

Do you Euros know what it's like to have the fastest runners, best golfers, best tennis players, and to win every international competition from archery to yachting? Of course not! How COULD you know what that is like? You aren't American and thus spoiled by success in EVERY VENUE, EVERY UNDERTAKING we have ever attempted- except soccer and that stupid goat carcass game Hortlund plays in Sweden.

Look Europe, the bottom line is that if soccer paid half as much as a courtesy clerk makes here in America we'd attract enough kids with athletic ability to win EVERY world cup. We are bigger, stronger and faster than you are. And more humble too.
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Post by: Thrawn on June 18, 2002, 07:49:11 PM
Cripes, American national sport is baseball, and you guys call soccer boring.:p
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Post by: easymo on June 18, 2002, 08:06:58 PM
Everyone knows that soccer is an east European plot to overthrow our great  American way of life.
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Post by: Elfenwolf on June 18, 2002, 08:52:41 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Cripes, American national sport is baseball, and you guys call soccer boring.:p



...And Thrawn speaks from Canada, the Land of Curling! The most boring sporting event I ever attended were the World Curling Championships in Canada. All the participants had humped backs from bending over their brooms after hours and hours of pratice so I felt like I was attending a Quasimoto convention. Sorry, but after an hour in the press tent with all the humpbacked curlers staring at me at crotch level I got the heebee-jeebies and stood outside next to a snowdrift and shivered. I'll take baseball over hump backed Canadian curlers anytime.
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Post by: Thrawn on June 18, 2002, 09:10:38 PM
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
Sorry, but after an hour in the press tent with all the humpbacked curlers staring at me at crotch level I got the heebee-jeebies and stood outside next to a snowdrift and shivered. I'll take baseball over hump backed Canadian curlers anytime.


This is just another way of saying you are skeerd of curling.  


Why are you Americans so scared of our sport?
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Post by: Dead Man Flying on June 18, 2002, 10:44:37 PM
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Originally posted by Thrawn
Why are you Americans so scared of our sport?


Dude, have you SEEN some of the women who participate in curling?

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: wsnpr on June 19, 2002, 01:14:14 AM
ROFL!!! You all are funny...thanks for the laughs!   :)
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Post by: Maniac on June 19, 2002, 02:07:28 AM
This thread turned out great :cool:

Ah going on vacation tomorrow, take care all and cyas up :D

Chickens bok! bok! bok!
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: mietla on June 19, 2002, 02:13:32 AM
you don't mean to say that Swedish chickens do:

"bok"?????

What kind of language is that? :)
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Post by: Maniac on June 19, 2002, 02:16:25 AM
bok! bok! bok! is universal :)
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Post by: -tronski- on June 19, 2002, 03:47:39 AM
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Originally posted by mietla
Why?

That's why ....


(http://www.raf303.org/mietla/soccer3.jpg)
(http://www.raf303.org/mietla/soccer6.jpg)


You realise that the second pic is Rugby League (which can be extremely brutal), and 3rd from the bottom is Australian Rules Football.

 Tronsky
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Post by: lord dolf vader on June 19, 2002, 02:50:55 PM
haveing been to sweden i can assure you their chickens go cockldoodledo  and cluck cluck cluck.
 they argued with me but these are people who think pigs go neuf neuf neuf.  not oink oink oink like they actualy do .  otherwise a very nice country when they can get the sun to come up so you can see the dang place.
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Bluedog on June 30, 2002, 11:13:55 PM
The real question is this : whay are American footballers so scared that they have to wear enourmous amounts of padding and a helmet while playing their version of the game?

Put a proffesional rugby union or league team against a gridiron team in a game of gridiron....you'll still get a game, no doubt with the Americans coming out as winners.

put a proffessional gridiron team in a game of union or league against a proffessional side....and you will have MANY casualties, virtually all of them in the first 10 minutes, and nearly all Gridiron players.

American football is a great game, but c'mon guys....whats with all the mamby pamby fairey pads and helmet?? your not scared of a bit of contact sport are ya? :)

P.S. my home town has clubs for all three above mentioned codes....I've played amatuer club level in all three.....gridiron is by FAR the least likely to involve injury in my experience.
Then League, then Union....that game is just an excuse for brutality on a weekly basis :)
Played club level soccer too, but only untill I discovered that physical size was much more of an advantage when you actually get to grind the other bloke into the dirt without being sent off :)
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: -dead- on July 01, 2002, 06:04:18 AM
I always thought the US didn't like football because you can't put enough commercial breaks into it. You need a sport where you can stop for a couple of minutes while they change teams or have a time out or something every 15 minutes or so to be able to go "and now a word from our sponsors...". The whole two-halves of 45 minutes stuff is really not TV sponsor friendly, and I suspect the TV stations assume it's a bit committed for the audience, whom US TV stations seem to treat like they all have ADD or something. :D
Aussie rules (from what little I seen of it) is fighting with intermittent patches of rugby. They even do slow motion replays of the fights. All in all quite good fun. :D
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Post by: Mushkin1uk on July 01, 2002, 07:20:39 AM
I cant belive some of the comments on this board, Some football matches are VERY boring but a majority(sp) are exciting, Now American Football that is boring my run down;
Kick the Ball other team catch it 5 people from original team pound the one with the ball to the ground,Stop,Ad break,Throw the ball,Knock more people down,Stop,Ad Break and so on for about 4 hours.
 
Oh And BTW why do you call it 'Football' when you kick the ball very rarely and then change the name of Football to 'Soccer'?;)








'Only playing along BTW'
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Fatty on July 01, 2002, 11:07:15 AM
When does that world cup thing start?
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Charon on July 01, 2002, 11:13:12 AM
I was afraid of soccer when I played football in high school -- way too much running involved :)

Charon
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: midnight Target on July 01, 2002, 11:47:06 AM
I think soccer should be played on a smaller field, with smaller goals and no goaly.

Nevermind, we already have basketball, the greatest sport in the world. :cool:
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Post by: K West on July 01, 2002, 12:49:38 PM
"Why are americans scared of soccer?"

It leads to men hugging and then kissing each other on the face!

 Westy

;)
Title: Why are americans scared of soccer?
Post by: Nifty on July 01, 2002, 01:28:48 PM
Westy's right!  American's don't want any of that hugging and kissing crap!  They want their sports to only have guys smacking each other on the bellybutton after a good play!  ;)