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Title: bf110g?
Post by: Fester' on September 20, 2001, 10:52:00 AM
i love this plane

be great for scenarios and luftwaffe jabo with its 2x 500kg bombs and cannons
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Post by: Urchin on September 20, 2001, 12:25:00 PM
It'd be nice to see, especially for the enemy, since it'd be straight dogmeat.
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Post by: Dowding on September 20, 2001, 12:32:00 PM
I disagree. It'd be great for scenarios. But I'd love to see the Stuka here for that very same reason.

It would be more survivable than the Il-2 in the MA.
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Post by: Wotan on September 20, 2001, 12:42:00 PM
a dont necessarily think the 110 would be dog meat. Fly BnZ keep speed up dont turn keep advantage.

would love to see it in ah stuka as well
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Post by: Buzzbait on September 20, 2001, 12:42:00 PM
S!

The 110G would have limited survivability, even in Scenarios.  But I would like to see it for nightfighter situations.

The 110C would actually do quite well in historical scenarios when matched up with Hurricane I's, Spit I's, Dewotnine 520's, Morane 406's and Curtiss Hawks.  It would also be excellent for Mediterranean scenarios where long range is very important.

But overall, I think HTC would get more bang for their design time buck if they first provided a Ju-88C to go against the Mosquito.

With a litte tweaking of the dot radar, it would be possible to do a night scenario with Mosquitos and Lancasters.
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Post by: Exile on September 20, 2001, 01:40:00 PM
Stuka would be amazing now with the new sounds. It'd be too cool to hear the those sirens blaring as they dive in on a field.

110 was always fun to fly in AW.
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Post by: hazed- on September 20, 2001, 04:20:00 PM
I think LW just need a jabo type plane that can carry more than 1x500kg and 4x50kg.
the me110g would be a good addition but i still think the more unusual me410 or a ju-188 would be more of a crowd puller  :)

stuka would also be a great addition on its popularity alone not its effectiveness in MA.

me110g 340mph (ish?)can carry a max load of how many bombs?  and what weight in kg?
me410 could fly at around 360mph could carry 4409lb! has options for 2x20mm+2x30mm+2x13mm or even a 50mm BK gun
stuka could carry @4000lb  :) but flies at 255mph  :(
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Post by: Fariz on September 20, 2001, 04:42:00 PM
I really want both planes to AH.

I want stuka most of all, any east front scenarious without it are crippled.
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Post by: Karnak on September 20, 2001, 05:09:00 PM
Fariz,

We need some Russian tank type devices too for that East Front scenario.

I'd rather see the Me410B-2 than the Bf110G.  It'd me more usefull in the MA and is a neater aircraft to boot.
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Post by: Fester' on September 20, 2001, 07:51:00 PM
me410 sucks
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Post by: brady on September 20, 2001, 07:58:00 PM
I am not apposed to the 110, I would just rather see them spend the time on a Me 410, it would fit the curent plane set better I think.
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Post by: Staga on September 20, 2001, 08:06:00 PM
Don't HiJack Fester's thread for getting Me-110 to AH Karnak  ;)
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Post by: AN on September 20, 2001, 08:19:00 PM
Stooooooooka!

anRky
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Post by: Fester' on September 20, 2001, 09:06:00 PM
stuka sucks
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Post by: Karnak on September 20, 2001, 09:29:00 PM
Staga,

There is no such thing as an Me110.  ;)

I have no objection to the Bf110G or Bf110C.

It was an important aircraft in WWII.
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Post by: Westy MOL on September 21, 2001, 08:14:00 AM
I'd love to see a 110. A 410 more than that one but if not a 410 then a 110 would be nice!

Westy
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Post by: Fester' on September 21, 2001, 09:00:00 AM
me410 is an ugly plane that its pilots hated.


110 looks like a shark.
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Post by: Westy MOL on September 21, 2001, 11:26:00 AM
Looks likes shark?  :) Well it's slow like as a grooper and as maneuverable as a carp. I'd honestly be happy with either but I would prefer something different other than what every online sim/game has.  

Westy
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Post by: Dead Man Flying on September 21, 2001, 12:23:00 PM
Bring on the 110!

Both C and G models please.

-- Todd/DMF
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Post by: Wotan on September 21, 2001, 12:43:00 PM
(http://personal.jax.bellsouth.net/jax/t/y/tyr88/me410_3.jpg)

work of art  :)
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Post by: NUTTZ on September 21, 2001, 02:55:00 PM
Bring the Bf110 to AH and i will oWn yAZ!!!

NUTTZ
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Post by: Wotan on September 23, 2001, 02:37:00 AM
punt so you all can admire the beauty of this 410
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Post by: GRUNHERZ on September 23, 2001, 03:01:00 AM
THe Me410 is very cool. It was faster than  WW2 P61s, nearly as fast as many mid war fighters in AH and could mount a ton of 20mm and high velocity 30mm cannon. Its a pretty good plane and proved rather versitale.
Plus, of course its very good looking.
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Post by: Urchin on September 23, 2001, 03:11:00 AM
I think the 410s ugly as sin, personally.  That said, it'd be a much more viable aircraft than the Bf110 would be.
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Post by: Wilbus on September 23, 2001, 03:25:00 AM
Actually, the Me410 had a pretty good reputation among its pilots, it did well against buffs before there allies got long range escorts. The Me210 was hated due to its instabilty but that was fixed in the Me410, and nom it's no ugly, it's cruel looking!
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Post by: wklink on September 23, 2001, 11:48:00 AM
Hs 129 for ground attack, while debatable considered by many the best ground attack aircraft of the war.

For night fighting the He 219 Uhu, best night fighter of the war-and it would be successful as a day fighter as well.

I agree though, the 110c and G would be nice additions.
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Post by: Apar1 on September 23, 2001, 12:22:00 PM
My dog is ugly (Shitsu).

Would love to see the 110 in AH and also the Emil.
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Post by: -ammo- on September 23, 2001, 03:45:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
high velocity 30mm cannon

Now that is an oxymoron ;)

any new AC to AH are welcomed by me!
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Post by: mrfish on September 23, 2001, 03:53:00 PM
i'd like to see all those planes: stuka, 110, 410 etc...

don't exclude them for lack of fanactics(the only people who'd fly those coffins).

sometimes the plane makes it's own fans.

if enough people liked the stuka you'd see missions with protective cover etc. it doesnt fit the current MA paradigm well, but that doesnt mean the paradigm cant change if the right planes were in place. or not... :)
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Post by: Tails on September 23, 2001, 04:26:00 PM
Count me in as one of those fanatics. I'd find a way to -make- the BF-110 work in any situation.  :cool:
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Post by: Thog on September 23, 2001, 08:41:00 PM
Heh, I used to do truely evil things in a 110G flying WarBirds. I'd either die in moments or get a 4 kill sortie. Or both. Aside from the obvious HO tactics, you'd be surprised how well that thing could stallfight. Many people were.

Much of the effect was the no one took it seriously until it was way too late.

Thog
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Post by: illo on September 28, 2001, 03:46:00 AM
right on target,Thog!!  :D
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Post by: Aaron_G_T on September 28, 2001, 05:05:00 AM
The He219 was a good plane, if somewhat
underpowered, but was produced in very
limited numbers. If you want a plane that
represents the real strength of the Luftwaffe
night fighting forces then you what the Me 110,
and various Ju 88 forms, and maybe the Do 217.

I don't think the 110G was used much as a
jabo was it?
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Post by: eskimo2 on September 28, 2001, 08:20:00 AM
I love the 110 and flew it in WB very often (about 10% of my total).  Great attack platform.

Fester, you are wrong.  The 410 was a beautiful plane!  I have yet to see a WWII airplane that was anything less than Beautiful.

There is a civil aircraft that borders on ugly though...  I think it's made by...
Citabria.

 :)
eskimo
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Post by: hazed- on September 28, 2001, 08:39:00 AM
PLEASE dont ask for the hs 129!

No one could possibly want an aircraft that would bring nothing the other LW planes cant handle.It was only successful because of the russian theatre where armour was more of an issue for aircraft because most fighting was low over the battlefield.

We need a (preferably)twin engined jabo plane more than anything,we need to be able to deliver 1000-2000kg of ordinance plus have good cannon loadout so we can do more damage thats more comparable with the allied planes.

Hs 129 has guns but is virtually useless as a jabo plane, has poor performance when compared to other twins of the war.
bf110 has great gun loadout and a reasonable bomb load so it would be good.
me410 has fantastic gun loadouts,has excellent ordinance load is faster and rarer in flightsims but apperently was vulnerable to HO or cockpit hits.

my vote in order of preference on looks alone:
bf110g,bf110c-f,stuka,he 177,me410,Ju 188,hs 129 not included its so ugly!
but for is use in MA:
me410,bf110g,ju188,he 177,bf110c-f,stuka,hs129

its the only reason for me that the me410 swings the vote, usefullness.

[ 09-28-2001: Message edited by: hazed- ]
Title: bf110g?
Post by: JoeDirt on September 28, 2001, 08:45:00 AM
2 weeks @_@