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Title: Il-2
Post by: Kaz on June 25, 2002, 12:26:44 PM
seeing as alot of people want the ju-87 stuka i was wondering if we could give the IL-2 a boost since it is a dive bomber also, so i was thinking aloud on the radio buffer in the MA about an original sight(s) for the IL-2 sure would make dive bombing easier (i hope) and make the sturmowhatchamacallit a more viable plane than it already is :)
Title: Il-2
Post by: Xjazz on June 25, 2002, 01:05:42 PM
True words!

1. IL2 should be stronger plane than now.
2. Kaboooza  version is needed against GVs and PTs
Title: Il-2
Post by: bozon on June 25, 2002, 05:41:54 PM
it would also help the IL2 if a drop of 2*100kg (about 400lb) directly on a flakpanzer would at least scratch the paint off of it.
for now, most times, it would just seat there in the middle of the crater joyfully shooting  at you.

the rockets kill the gv's better than the bombs.

Still my favorite gv buster.
Bozon
Title: Il-2
Post by: SKurj on June 25, 2002, 08:37:20 PM
Kaz.. u can build the sight yourself..


SKurj
Title: Il-2
Post by: Kaz on June 25, 2002, 09:28:33 PM
i would but i'm too lazy :rolleyes: first i'd have to find out what the sight(s) looked like then i'd have to make it in paint...i'm sweating just thinking about that daunting task :D
Title: Il-2
Post by: OmegaMrk on June 26, 2002, 12:37:48 AM
use IL2 as an example/help?
Title: Il-2
Post by: Kaz on June 26, 2002, 01:34:23 AM
IL2 the game? don't have it don't have access to it maybe i can find some screenshots of an il2 in il2 somewhere somehow that's if u're talking about the game.
Title: Il-2
Post by: OmegaMrk on June 26, 2002, 04:37:06 AM
http://www.il2sturmovik.com im sure there is a picture around there.
Title: Il-2
Post by: Kaz on June 26, 2002, 01:21:53 PM
thanks for the link i'm sure Skurj is already on it making the IL2 sight :D i will look into it also
Title: Il-2
Post by: Dennis on June 26, 2002, 04:28:06 PM
Kaz,
Assuming the game IL-2 has it historically accurate (don't know, never seen one of the planes, myself), this is what the IL-2 sight looks like.  Thing is, it's a fixed sight, rather than a reflector sight as AH uses.

There is a version of the soviet reflector sight used in vvs fighters at this site:  http://www.ceres.dti.ne.jp/~nabezo/AH/gunsight/gunsight.htm  suitable for use with AH.  I use this sight in the IL-2 and the Yaks.  (Don't fly the La's much).
It's not very well-suited to dive bombing or rockets, unfortunately.

Hope this is of some help.

Splash1
Title: Il-2
Post by: SKurj on June 26, 2002, 05:18:57 PM
Heh nope+)

Any sight won't improve your divebombing +)


I believe Stukas used a simple Angle drawn on the cockpit glass to one side which the pilot could use to judge dive angle, which I think is the most critical aspect of divebombing.


SKurj
Title: Il-2
Post by: Kaz on June 26, 2002, 09:17:23 PM
thanks for the pic and site link Dennis yes it did help until i read skurj's post he's a killjoy aint he? :p and thank u skurj for filling in that bit of info on dive angles etched into the sightand  yes dive angle is important. one thing i'm not sure about though...did the stuka pilots go inverted to see if they were over target or did they have some kinda glass floor or rudimentary 'bomb' sight to know when to start their dive? i think i've seen films of stukas just nosing over to start their bombing run dunno if that's accurate or not.
Title: Il-2
Post by: OmegaMrk on June 27, 2002, 01:02:04 PM
stuka pilots had a small square hole between their legs...no not to pee :) but to hit with their 250kg if thats what they where carrying.They dived @ about 70deg angle to target and used the crosshairs to know where the bomb is hitting. The problem that i see with inverted divin on a stuka is when u build speed in the dive its hard to get out of it.
Title: Il-2
Post by: Kaz on June 27, 2002, 07:02:10 PM
cool omegaMrk thanks for that info hey when the stuka  arrives maybe we'll get that hole too.
Title: Il-2
Post by: Dr Zhivago on June 28, 2002, 06:14:53 AM
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