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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Voss on June 27, 2002, 02:16:27 AM
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You're up high scissoring with a 262. He plays too long and ends up over controlling and spinning. Do you shoot him, or wait for him to recover?
Same deal but worse, he's in master pitch override. Shoot, or laugh? :)
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Shoot, then laugh:D
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If you give him time to recover, he will shoot you! Kill quick, then laugh your ever-loving arse off about his mistake! If I made that mistake with that many perks on the line, I would have to laugh with you about my mistake.
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Voss I think that it all depends on How much you actually want the kill. I am pretty sure that most of the MA players would simply follow the example given spining 262 all the way down from 30k without caring about compression lawndarting or whatever in order to KILL a PERKPLANE!! Well If we were at 30k and he losts it and goes down in spin I would prolly shoot but probably would not follow him down. If he loses too much alt in the spin he is no longer a threat to you and if he recovers and starts grabing back up you can always zoom him...
2 days ago I was in Ta-152 not very expensive perkride but it has the dogtag :) Killed an Ar-234 but the bastard :D managed to ping me with his rear 20mm (still wonder how did he do that coz he was manevuering quite violently) and took off my left airleon. After killing him I noticed 109 diving on me so I went nose down and dove too. We ended down on the deck with 1.3k separation. I was weping it and the separation was increasing.... The 109 kept following me through 3.5 sectors! Question is would he do that If i was not in a perkplane?
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Funny stuff...if he got you, he'd probably get what, 4-5 perkpoints ?
If he vulched two Lame-7s in a row, he'd get the same amount, without risking to run out of fuel deep inside enemy territory.
Most likely it is just envy. The "...I'll do my best just so you can't fly perked rides...". Funny ;)
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One time I was in a 190 bouncing a low F4U. He saw me though, and evaded my first pass. After that I though, ok, this time Im gonna be patient and do this right. So I was basically BnZ-ing the F4U, and we both knew it would just be a matter of time before he ended up in the water.
I had seen the F4U shoot down a friendly before I got on his bellybutton so I knew who the pilot was too, and he was on a good sortie, I think he had 11-12 kills at the time.
Suddenly the F4U pilot came on ch1 saying something like "Fw190 bouncing me, Im low on gas, can I rtb and refuel and then come back (F4U)"
First I thought "yeah...right"
But then I changed my mind, sent "ok, you go get some fuel", broke off and let him rtb. I figured what the heck, its just a kill. He is on a good streak, and it would be just one no-skill-kill for me.
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You shoot him while making sure to keep the pinky finger extended.
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It takes great skill and patience to shoot down a plane spinning earthward.
Westy
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Hortlund, you sure that wasn't a tount from the F4U ?
With channel 1 squelched, you don't have these problems. You just shoot him down.
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Well, I cant be sure naturally, but it was a well known pilot in the F4U, and he was genuinely surprised that I let him go, and we did get to do that dogfight later (although it was 2vs2).
Perhaps he tricked me, but as I said, it was just a kill anyway, and we both knew it was just a matter of time before I would have nailed him.
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I had a guy crippled, descending in a shallow dive.. I'd shot his engine dead, as well as knocking away several flying surfaces.. It was a good fight, and the guy did his best, but the show was over, he was dead meat; we both knew it.
I came alongside, lookin him over.. he was flying wreckage. I saw the gear come down, so I wagged my wings in salute and accelerated away, thinkin the guy earned a ditch. As I went by, he yanked his nose up and tried to gun me, then stalled and spun in.
Go figure. No good deed ever goes unpunished. ;)
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Kill first, laugh later.
Anything else may lead to your floating in silk while he fly's home.
Exception is the CT.
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You're kidding.... right?
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When I saw the header, I thought Voss was having a guilty conscience over drilling me at 20k while I was futzing around with the "Setup" panel, and then going on Channel 1 and saying "Ouch! That's gotta hurt!". :)
That'll teach me to stay in the Tower until I've completed my pre-flight :)
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Gofaster, I do that so much it doesn't bother me anymore. :D
I was feeling a little bad about the B-pony that came at me with a 5k advantage, only to find out how hot I was and then lose out spinning. I cut his tail off, and left him to the flat spin he was in. Someone finished him at 8k.
No, I left the 262 to auger on his own and without pinging him. I know how hard that spin can stress a 262 driver, and he was already beat. I went after the buffs and killed them. :D
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You have to shoot him, otherwise the chute won't come out.
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Here's my rule:
If it has a red icon, and if it's within my means, it dies. No exceptions. I've had similar situations, one recently with a Mustang. I simply spiralled down in my Yak, and the instant he recovered; whamo. I don't expect less from the opposition. I recently managed to spin an La-5 while fighting with a Spitfire. He tried to kill me while I wrestled with the La. He missed and it cost him a little later. However, I had no problem with his trying. But, as Westy pointed out, hitting a spinning fighter isn't easy. Best to position one's self to nail him on recovery (that is if he does recover), assuming he has no friends around to spoil your chance.
I've had enough experience with uncharitable pilots to realize that it is far wiser to shoot first.
My regards,
Widewing
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I've seen some pilots (cough... Fester... cough) kick into intentional spins if they lose the advantage and have some altitude below them. This makes them a tougher target to hit as they're spiralling earthward, and most players will let them go with the belief that they're just going to auger in.
In my book, if it's still flying/floating, it's gonna die. Period.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Last week a squadmate and myself upped 262s in order to hunt down another 262 picking off unsuspecting prey in a furball. We caught up to him and tangled for a few seconds. My squadmate overshot and the 262 followed him with me closing fast. They went up into the vert, he broke off as my squaddie dove away, and we both stalled (in the film, it actually looks like we did a very ugly cobra!). I came out with JUST enough speed to maneuver on top of him as we fell. I put a toejamload of 30mm into him with great pleasure as he tried to recover :D. Turns out it was Fester, I was pleased :).
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Ah, whenever I see a damaged plane trying to RTB I close in and torture him by throwing 1 or 2 bullets at him .. let him hear the pings ..
and laugh when he panic augers. Saves tax dollars! *grin*
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So, what you guys are saying is I should have slowed down, killed the 262, and then left our field open to the buffs? I know, I didn't say that originally. It's been irritating me since it happened. I should have killed him, but I hate letting buffs past me. I was torn between the two options at the time.
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Well, that's a different situation entirely. Buff-busting should be a fighter pilot's priority (otherwise, there may not be a base to return to) so you were smart to let the 262 flutter around on its own.