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Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 30, 2002, 03:58:41 PM
1. Removed victory messages after kills, you and the person you shot down still get the same message.
Victory messages now only appear after a successful landing with at least 2 kills.

Basically if I kill a guy do just the two of us get the old kill message right away?

Please explain this change a bit more, I find it confusing a bit. :)
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: akak on June 30, 2002, 04:08:25 PM
It means if you shoot someone down only you and the guy you shot down will see the victory message.  Only time the rest of the arena will see your victory message is if you successfully land your plane with more than 2 kills.  Easy enough to understand or do I have to type slower?


Ack-Ack
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: GRUNHERZ on June 30, 2002, 04:17:34 PM
Yes a little slower pleeez. Type it again actually...
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: -ammo- on June 30, 2002, 04:21:29 PM
means.....thaaaattt....wheeen nnn...you....landddd....yourr rr...aircraft....successfully yyyy...afterrrr...2 orr...moreeee...killss....tha ttt...thennn..... thereee...will beee a  messageeee sayiiinggg...sooo.
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Fariz on June 30, 2002, 05:02:40 PM
Lol ammo, now even I do NOT understand. It was clear after HT post, became little more vague after akas answer, after your sllloooowwww exxxxppppllaaaannnaattttiooon nn it turned into a mess.

So, when I kill someone, he is back to tower, and gets two kills on me... Wait, when I kill someone, my beer turns from cold into warm and spoils my day, sheeps stop to love me, and HTC win AH spelling contest...

No, sorry it is too difficult for me. :)

Fariz
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: -ammo- on June 30, 2002, 05:07:19 PM
heehee, sorry:)

I *think* it means this--

Say you go up for a sortie and get several kills, 4 for the sake of discussion.  Only you see the messages when you make the kills, well and the guy you killed. But when you land and exit your AC, I think a message is displayed for the arena that tells how many kills you had for that sortie. If it is only a one kill sortie, then no message for the arena.

We will see monday, right:D?
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Fariz on June 30, 2002, 05:10:15 PM
My beer boils now. :)
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: AcId on June 30, 2002, 05:14:27 PM
It means there will be less network traffic :D
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: 2Late4U on June 30, 2002, 05:27:13 PM
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Originally posted by AcId
It means there will be less network traffic :D


Yes...but it also means there will be less acknolegement of good pilots, and no way to give "WAY TO GO" messages to squadmates.

I can understand the reasoning, but I also fear the "Kill macro" that many dweebs that need "to compensate for something", and want the world to know they got a kill.  Im on the fence on this right now, but I do feel the game will lose something.  In either case I am confindent HT will make any needed adjustments.  Its one of the few companies I actually feel "THINKS" about decisions before implimenting them...as oppsed to the standard "lets try this and if it sucks....we can change it"
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: BenDover on June 30, 2002, 05:30:59 PM
c'mon, i got it straight away
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Miska on June 30, 2002, 05:55:48 PM
That is excellent news.  Now in the next version, please include a host option for no kill messages at all.  This would be very good for historical events.  It would allow for multi-frame events in which each side is not certain of the other side`s losses.  Great fog of war and limited intel potential.  Sides would then have to rely purely on AARs for intel estimates.
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: sling322 on June 30, 2002, 06:11:35 PM
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Originally posted by Miska
That is excellent news.  Now in the next version, please include a host option for no kill messages at all.  This would be very good for historical events.  It would allow for multi-frame events in which each side is not certain of the other side`s losses.  Great fog of war and limited intel potential.  Sides would then have to rely purely on AARs for intel estimates.


Heh....newbie.  :D  We already do this for the TODs.  At least all the ones that I have set up and/or flown in.
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Ghosth on June 30, 2002, 06:25:45 PM
Squelch channel 6, drops all host messages such as kill msg's.
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Gixer on June 30, 2002, 06:38:30 PM
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Originally posted by AcId
It means there will be less network traffic :D



HORAHH!
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Octavius on June 30, 2002, 06:52:15 PM
aww too bad we wont be able to gawk at the buffer during vulchfests and camping :D

Victory 35 by Octavius.

If someone has a good sortie and gets say, 15 kills... once they land successfully, will the text buffer explode with 15 lines?

Victory 1 by Octavius
Victory 2 by Octavius
Victory 3 by Octavius
...
Victory 13 by Octavius
Victory 14 by Octavius
Victory 15 by Octavius
etc...

That would be quite annoying :)  especially if someone's popping the millions of PTs after the sinking of a carrier.  Can you say text lag?
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: moose on June 30, 2002, 07:00:21 PM
Kill messages will probably be completely different then what we have now Oct

I figure they'll say something like 'moose landed with 30 kills' or something like that

I like this because they're trying to promote living
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Octavius on June 30, 2002, 07:06:57 PM
Well I like it then :)



but moose, buddy... 'tween you and me... I dont think we'll ever see 30 kills from you  :D :p
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: SunKing on June 30, 2002, 07:57:22 PM
Im sure it will only scroll one msg saying you scored some many kills that sortie, It would be silly to scroll 15 kill msgs if they doing this to control network traffic.

I actually think its a good idea. So what if you dont see a victory msg for your single kill. Most of the time you died with the guy. I think its more comendable to see a succesful returned to base sortie. Makes me think of the perk point threads concerning points only if you rtb.
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Otto on June 30, 2002, 08:01:42 PM
It means you don't have to squelch channel 6 anymore.
Title: Wat does that mean
Post by: senna on June 30, 2002, 08:24:46 PM
27 Added Enemy bias so that enemys have a better update when near than friendlys.

???
Title: Re: Wat does that mean
Post by: moose on June 30, 2002, 08:43:15 PM
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Originally posted by senna
27 Added Enemy bias so that enemys have a better update when near than friendlys.

???


It means that network updates of friendly positions will not be as important as enemy ones

So if you're in a furball with 15 friends and 15 enemies, the 15 enemies will have network priority and will lag less
Title: Re: Re: Wat does that mean
Post by: Raly on June 30, 2002, 09:00:13 PM
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Originally posted by moose


It means that network updates of friendly positions will not be as important as enemy ones

So if you're in a furball with 15 friends and 15 enemies, the 15 enemies will have network priority and will lag less


And that's a good thing by the way :D
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: FDutchmn on June 30, 2002, 09:04:13 PM
oh man... now we can't share those 150kill record :D  Kills with a GV will not be know to others, while Ship Guns will be...
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: MadBirdCZ on July 01, 2002, 04:05:39 AM
So if you make a multimilion kill sortie and crash/ditch/die at the end means no kill massage ;) and no perkopints awarded? :D ehm well prolly not but could not help myself to ask...
Title: Re: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Tilt on July 01, 2002, 04:51:59 AM
coming of the "kill macro" ?????
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Kweassa on July 01, 2002, 05:41:51 AM
In my opinion, good pilots are those who fly to score victorys and survive at the same time. You might get 4~5 kills flying in something like a Spit or a N1K2, jumping in to a messy furball and flying like a suicidal maniac.. but if you get shot down.. well, too bad.. no acknowledgements.. bad SA...  yer dead! Why acknowledge a dead pilot who jumped into bad odds and flew unwisely? ;)

 Anyhow, I don't think anyone's gonna lose serious sleep over this.. :D
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Hristo on July 01, 2002, 05:55:02 AM
Shhhh, Kweassa, that is something called skill ;).

I have a feeling that it will reduce numbers of suicide Lame-7s diving into ack for you.

Surely it is a way to promote che....smart flying. And vulching. And gangbanging. Oh yes, times are great !!
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Reschke on July 01, 2002, 07:34:57 AM
I don't think it will stop squadmates giving "Way To Go" calls or even "" from the enemy planes that you downed in a good fight. Hell Squadmates usually fly in the same area anyway. Plus I think it might at least make some headway on all the people accusing others of "stealing kills".

Good move HTC; reduction of network traffic is a very good thing to have.
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Nifty on July 01, 2002, 10:04:05 AM
we have text macros for the radio buffer?

I guess you could setup your joystick to send a text string when you hit a button.  I dunno, I have no reason to do that with my Saitek profiles.

Even if we did, I'd rather squelch 1 before squelching 6.
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: zipity on July 01, 2002, 03:13:24 PM
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I guess you could setup your joystick to send a text string when you hit a button.


Already have it.  I have a TH F-22 Pro with a stickworks digital chip installed.  I had a couple extra/unused positions on one of my hats so I programmed 'salute' on one and 'wtg' on another.  Anything to keep from having to touch the keyboard in flight.

I will miss seeing squad mate messages going by but for better net performance I'm sure I won't miss it for long.
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Arfann on July 01, 2002, 03:28:35 PM
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Originally posted by zipity


Already have it.  I have a TH F-22 Pro with a stickworks digital chip installed.  I had a couple extra/unused positions on one of my hats so I programmed 'salute' on one and 'wtg' on another.  Anything to keep from having to touch the keyboard in flight.

I will miss seeing squad mate messages going by but for better net performance I'm sure I won't miss it for long.


I won't mention any names, but a nose rubbing Alaskan in our squadron had a macro programmed to say "Squeal like a Pig!!".
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Vulcan on July 01, 2002, 05:47:19 PM
I just hope tards with kill macro's are dealt with quickly.
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Mino on July 01, 2002, 06:32:18 PM
It means I can now view channel 6 more often.....
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: X2Lee on July 01, 2002, 06:38:28 PM
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Originally posted by Vulcan
I just hope tards with kill macro's are dealt with quickly.



Now you can expect AW like killmessage tards at every turn,
especially when they figuure out you can make a macro the same way you assign commands to your stick.    :eek:
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Gadfly on July 01, 2002, 07:26:27 PM
One of the best features of WWIIOL is that there is no kill confirmation until you land, and never one that tells you who.
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: senna on July 01, 2002, 07:39:36 PM
I dont mind kill macros, I will have one of my own actually :p Looking fgorward to viewing other peoples kill macross now. In the end if every1 starts using these kill macros, at least it will be more original than the standard "kill 2 of someplayer". Would even be entertaining. but then I wasnt in AW so I dont know what that gerneral experience was in concern to the macros. I just think it would be more fun.
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: SPIKER on July 01, 2002, 07:45:42 PM
As some of the other pilots have said, I’m afraid the game will lose some of the camaraderie that is built up, not just within squad mates but within a mission or just saving another pilot.  Some or most of the pilots do not make it back to the runway, maybe this is an incentive to do that, but I enjoy someone saying “way to go”.
Talk about reducing the type, try reading through the morning news or personal opinions on aircraft, while you are waiting to see if a town is down or not.   No I don’t think that one line will be too much.  


Good Hunting
   Spiker
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Grimm on July 02, 2002, 12:04:03 PM
Iv used Kill Macros every day in the MA.   I just send them on Squad Channel.   Lets my buddies know if I got a kill without having to watch the host.  

I think this will be a nice deal,  most nights I wont have to squelch 6 now.   I still might if I have a large volume of comms going on.  But normaly I bet this will be a readable rate.  

I would like to see Host kill messages sent to Squad thou.  That would be a cool deal.    Maybe its not feasable but it would be cool to only get those.

Still, I think this is another step in the right direction.


As for Country Macros...  I  would prefer to not have that get started.  Scrolling would be a worse problem than now.   I do remember in that old game, some great Kill macros.   a couple of my favorites that would make me laugh....

Pilot (Large)   Im Large and In Charge!!   and your Dead!

Pilot (Papa4)  Who's Your Papa!!  

Some of those would just crack me up.    

I keep any Kill Marcos now confined to Squad Channel.   Unless we have a feild capture that was really tuff...  Then I might give a ...  
WTG!!!!   ODM!!!!
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Nifty on July 02, 2002, 12:36:28 PM
Kill macros = need for a persistent squelch list.   :D
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Reschke on July 02, 2002, 01:45:21 PM
Like my squadmate Raubvogel has said for a while now: "BRING THE PERMANENT SQUELCH LIST TO AH!" I agree with him wholeheartedly and wish that we could do that.

I don't like to have to spend time in the tower before selecting my first ride of the night typing in ".squelch 1'; ".squelch 2"; ".squelch (player handle inserted here)". Especially when there are some players regardless of if they are on my team or not that I just don't care to see what they type. It makes flying in the game so much easier for me when I do that.
Title: Hitech what exactly does this mean?
Post by: Mighty1 on July 02, 2002, 02:01:02 PM
First off WWIIO blows chunks!! There is NOTHING good about that piece of crap!

I like seeing kill messages that way you know WHO you are fighting with.

It was always annoying in WWIIO because the are no personalities there at all except your general wannabe who screamed all the time.

I have the most fun when I know who I'm going against.