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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: funkedup on June 30, 2002, 06:11:31 PM
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If you read the news item, you can see that they are implementing this in a very smart way.
1. It doesn't let the plane do anything that a normal plane can't do.
2. In fact a plane with stall limiter will have somewhat less maneuverability than one without the stall limiter.
3. It seems it will only be enabled for newbies. After 30 days the training wheels come off whether you like it or not.
I don't see a problem. It won't let anybody do impossible maneuvers or out-turn a good pilot. All it will do is reduce the frustration levels for guys who are just starting out.
And if I'm wrong then there's always the Combat Theater. :)
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NP here as well.......
Sounds like a nice implimentation.
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NP here.
When I was a newbie in WB, my biggest frustration was the accelerated stall.
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Does AH even model stalling? I seem not to notice for a very long time noe. :)
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yeah we've got a new guy in our squad, that i've been helping, he hasn't got any rudder control except keyboard, so cant recover as easy from spin.
you should hear him over the squad channel cussing and swearing everytime he goes into a stall/flat spin and crashes should help people like him not get so frustrated and keep our squad channel clear :D
I think its a good idea, now please release it already! :)
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Funked, I thought that a stall limiter was also called a spitfire?
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Yeah, I don't see what everyone's worried about, HTC has clearly explained how it will give the person not using AOA a much greater advantage in manuvering than someone who is using it, just the person using it won't get into a stall as easy.
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Great idea I can see direct and huge results for people new to the sim.
I really like that they come off after a month.
I don't see them giving anyone any advantage at all, but should ease the learning curve a bit.
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I'm not sure it will help them a lot:
-during the first 30 days, they'll yank on the stick as hard as they can without consequence....but they'll still be fodder for the seasoned pilots.
-when the stall limiter period ends, they'll go through a lot of accelerated stalls, as they never had to beware about it before....then they'll get frustrated, insult everyone on channel 1 and cancel their accounts. Oh wait...that means that they at least paid a 1 month subscription to AH. I can see HTC's point.
Seriously, I don't see the point of this feature. You can't please casual players with a hardcore flightsim and vice-versa. Knowing HTC, it will be well implemented and won't affect the arena much. But IMO it's only an opportunity for an exploit (like WB's easy mode) with very little added value.
Once again, IMO.
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Funked, I thought that a stall limiter was also called a spitfire?
ROFL Frenchy :D :D :D
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Seriously, HT's news flash solved all my worries over the stall-limiter. Looks reasonable enough! No problem here, too.
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
Funked, I thought that a stall limiter was also called a spitfire?
hu ?
Ground is the ULTIMATE spin limiter ;)
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lol Frenchy :D
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I hope you can disable it. For all those WB vets or where ever else they come from might find it really annoying, awefully fast.
I think it should be off by default, and the newbie can switch it on if they want it, and thus be aware that the plane is in a 'easy-mode' (of sorts) so they'll be more prepared when the limter turns off after 30 days.
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Off by default, too many H2H hosts keep default settings.
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"snork,,,snork"
Stallfire.
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"All it will do is reduce the frustration levels for guys who are just starting out. "
That's my hope.
Westy
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so they'll explode instead of spin :)
never thought spinning was a problem in AH. Can't recal seeing more than about half a dozen spin deaths from alts that should have been recovered from
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I think deselys is right. what's gonna happen to these guys flying stall limiter when it's turned off? They're gonna think they can fly around like that all the time, and when it's off, they're going to be spinning out all over the place. I'm going to need some convincing on why this is a good thing for 30 days for new pilots. It's like playing baseball with major leaguers where they pitch about 50% speed and no breaking balls for 6 innings and then in the 7th, they bring in Randy Johnson throwing full speed and mixing in his slider and curve. ;)
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Might be good for marketing, but I lean toward realism in the flight modelling. Have to wait and see how it is implemented.
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but what about that huge untapped market? yes i'm talking about people with mice, at home in the office...
you lure them in and get them with the RR flight model (stall limiter) then when their addicted and they have paid there sub, BAM! take away their training wheels.
hopefully by this time they will be addicted and you will see a stream of sunken eyed AH noobs standing outside every computer hardware store mumbling 'must get joystick, must get joystick'
at this point HTC will be responsible for the collapse of the US and world economy unless...
(little finger to lips) you pay one million dollars muhaa ha ha!