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Title: Another "guess this one"
Post by: Klasse on July 02, 2002, 05:09:59 AM

Easy as always :)

Title: Another "guess this one"
Post by: Klasse on July 02, 2002, 05:33:43 AM

Oh,Maybe a picture too.

Title: Another "guess this one"
Post by: Dr Zhivago on July 02, 2002, 05:45:01 AM

Curtiss "Hawk" Model75/Y1P-36

Title: Another "guess this one"
Post by: KG45 on July 02, 2002, 10:05:04 AM

according to WWIIOL, this is the only fighter the french ever had.

i guess they forgot about the Dewoitine D 520  

Title: Another "guess this one"
Post by: Staga on July 02, 2002, 11:43:03 AM

IIRC they should be glad they got a Hawk model which was not in use in BoF (high octane fuel) instead that Dewoitine.

In RL(tm) Hispano-Suiza Y-12 engine didn't have enough power to fight with Me's and Hispano HS-404 cannon was junk.
Finns had MS.406 fighters wich had same cannon and  those were ripped away and mg151/20 cannons or 12,7 mm ShVaK MGs installed instead.
Morane-Saulnier 406/410 had also same engine  with D.520 thought earlier sub-type. There were also reason why Finns were converting their Moranes to use Russian Klimov M105P engine.

btw Finns couldn't ever achieve top-speeds French gave to MS406. Factory claims were.. ehmm.. optimistic :D

Title: Another "guess this one"
Post by: julle on July 02, 2002, 12:08:17 PM

(http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/hawk75.gif)
http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/hawk75.html

(http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/morane.gif)
http://www.sci.fi/~ambush/faf/morane.html

:D julle

Title: Another "guess this one"
Post by: Fishu on July 02, 2002, 12:44:39 PM

Staga,

I read a book of Ms406 and it told that there were moranes serving in FAF with hispano cannons.
Pilots told it was very powerful, more than MG151/20, but also very unreliable.
"usually not working when you needed it most"
This is far fetched, but I *think* I read about changing MG weapons to higher caliber with one reason being this unreliability.

Title: Another "guess this one"
Post by: whgates3 on July 02, 2002, 02:31:30 PM

The 1st experimental (experiments were done in real Battle of Britan combat) Spitfires to have the 20mm Hispano cannons installed had a lot of trouble with gun stoppages, which was apparently due to the way the 20mm guns were installed in the wings...