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Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: popeye on July 03, 2002, 12:52:48 PM
Is it enabled?  For newbies, for everyone, for no one?

Anyone try it?
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: Heinkel on July 03, 2002, 12:59:16 PM
It is enabled in MA, and I tired it. If you have played this game for more than a week, there is no reason to use this. It realllly disables the plane, and kills it's turnign ability. It's good for people just starting.
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: Daff on July 03, 2002, 01:02:19 PM
^^^^ That's what people said for years about easymode in WB.

Daff
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: funkedup on July 03, 2002, 01:54:25 PM
WB easymode had a lot more than an AoA limiter, at least if you believe the hysterics on AGW.
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: RRAM on July 03, 2002, 02:18:17 PM
I don't matter if it kills the plane or not. I don't want the thing to be turned on by anyone if he's not a newbie.

No EZ mode in MA, please. THIS is EZ mode.
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: Daff on July 03, 2002, 03:52:16 PM
Easymode in WB did 2 things: AoA limiter and autotrim.
It did weird things in vertical, as the planes wouldnt depart, but merely 'mush' out, making standing on the tail and weird vertical moves possible. It was also a much more stable gunnery platform.
It also made stickstirring rampant, as people wouldnt stall out while doing it. The day easymode was removed, 60% of the topscorers disappeared from the top20, together with 95% of the rollwarping 190s. (And a large amount of the Ki84's disappeared too, as they were quite prone to spinning).

Daff
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: funkedup on July 03, 2002, 04:09:41 PM
AoA limiter won't allow you to do weird things in the vertical.  Must have been some kind of excessive trim authority on the autotrim or something else completely.
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: Mathman on July 03, 2002, 06:46:16 PM
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Originally posted by RRAM
I don't matter if it kills the plane or not. I don't want the thing to be turned on by anyone if he's not a newbie.

No EZ mode in MA, please. THIS is EZ mode.


Have you tried it yet?  I haven't and have no idea whether it is the cog in Satan's Master Plan as you seem to Ram.  Therefore, like a rational adult, I will reserve judgment until I see that it is.
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: RRAM on July 03, 2002, 06:50:31 PM
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Originally posted by Mathman


Have you tried it yet?  I haven't and have no idea whether it is the cog in Satan's Master Plan as you seem to Ram.  Therefore, like a rational adult, I will reserve judgment until I see that it is.



yes, I've tried it offline... Enough to know that is like a car having ABS in F1.

Sure, it's better to have direct control over braking.

But sure, it's much safer to have ABS.


That's why they banned ABS from Formula-1 racing.  That's why this shouldn't be allowed for everyone in the main.

He who turns this on and stays in strict Bnz has a definite advantage over the rest of the people. IMO, of course.

I don't mind this being enabled for newbies. I DO mind if this is enabled for non-newbies.  It shouldn't be.
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: udet on July 03, 2002, 09:36:09 PM
stall limiter transforms Ah from a simulator to a mere game. I don't agree with it at all,not even for newbies. Real pilots didn't have stall limiters when they were checking out in their planes. The training arena and a Zero should be enough for newbies :P
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: Mathman on July 04, 2002, 01:45:59 AM
Would you be pissed if someone was riding in the Tour de France with training wheels on their 10-speed?
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: Apar on July 04, 2002, 02:34:30 AM
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Would you be pissed if someone was riding in the Tour de France with training wheels on their 10-speed?


ROFL  :D
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: easymo on July 04, 2002, 03:01:35 AM
ROTFL

No easymode in the MA. (But dont turn off our instatrim CT button)
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: RRAM on July 04, 2002, 05:32:54 AM
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Originally posted by Mathman
Would you be pissed if someone was riding in the Tour de France with training wheels on their 10-speed?



If I was part of one of those big groups of fallen runners, yes.

I'ts EZ mode. I'ts in the MA. For everyone to turn it on.

And I don't like EZ mode on in the MA for everyone to turn it on. Can't get more simple than that.
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: Hristo on July 04, 2002, 05:36:41 AM
I used to worry abotu EZ in WB. Well, what ? I never saw it missused, usually it took too much of the plane abilities.

No EZ mode can save them from a shooting Wurger doing a high speed firing run.
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: Xjazz on July 04, 2002, 06:07:39 AM
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Originally posted by udet
stall limiter transforms Ah from a simulator to a mere game. I don't agree with it at all,not even for newbies. Real pilots didn't have stall limiters when they were checking out in their planes. The training arena and a Zero should be enough for newbies :P


MA was a pure game well before  v1.10.

I shoot down US plane with my Spit9 and ALL planes have nonmetric cockpit :rolleyes:

When I like to play simulator I start IL2/GPL/F2.5/OFP.

"Its just a game"
Yeager


:)
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: Dawvgrid on July 04, 2002, 06:12:34 AM
What I understand,,,,,if you`re a good pilot,you`ll just outfly the
other guy,cuz you can use the full ability of your own AC,,,he can`t with his.You can outturn a zeke in a 190;) ,,,,thats the general idea.
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: straffo on July 04, 2002, 06:18:00 AM
I've not tried it yet but is it allways possible to do an hammerhead for exemple with stall limiter on ?
Title: Stall limiter in MA?
Post by: Daff on July 04, 2002, 07:15:33 AM
"Sure, it's better to have direct control over braking.

But sure, it's much safer to have ABS.

That's why they banned ABS from Formula-1 racing. That's why this shouldn't be allowed for everyone in the ma"

You're getting a little confused here. They banned ABS in F1, due to the advantages it would give, not because it was safer.
They would never ban anything in F1 that gave the car a disadvantage, but made it safer...in fact it seems to go the other way (but that's another story).

Daff