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Title: System Freeze
Post by: Corrs on July 04, 2002, 12:41:47 AM
A problem I am having with the update is it's locking up my puter. So far it has happend twice, I was flying around and went to look left (it might have been back, left) and everything froze, all I had was the engine sound and a frozen image of what I last looked at. It was in MA with the Desert terrain. Both time I had looked left when it froze. The only way I can get out of it is to pull the power plug.
Title: System Freeze
Post by: Z6 on July 04, 2002, 03:05:44 AM
Corrs this happened to me 3 times in the last 5 days prior to the 1.10 release.  I think its a server issue.  After about 3-5 seconds it unfroze and I was flying again.  Just a guess.  But I don't think its exclusive to the 1.10 update.  >>>S<<< GOODHUNTING!:cool:
Title: System Freeze
Post by: Tracer-15 on July 05, 2002, 08:25:50 AM
in previous versions i would have the 3-5 second freezes.....but all would go back to normal....but now......after 15mins.......to a few hours.......i get either.....a weird disconnect......in which all the other planes sit still in midair in one place....or.....my puter completly freezes......and then i have to pull the plug....and do the stupid 15 minute system scan.......today ive done this three times already......and its just not acceptable
Title: System Freeze
Post by: Gixer on July 05, 2002, 09:14:54 AM
Exact seem happend to me and squadie after destroying a formation of B17's. Switching to view back left to watch the remains hit the desert floor resuleted in a total system freeze. Had to re-boot to get things back up and running. When I logged back on squadie said exact same thing happend to him.

This was on first day of 1.10 release, hasn't happend since. I put it down to the server overloading.



...-Gixer
The Horse Soldiers
Title: System Freeze
Post by: Epsilon 5 on July 05, 2002, 02:10:32 PM
Having this problem myself... AH would lock after about 15-20 mins. I was hosting a game in H2H, on "Shuffler's FFA", in fact I hosted 3 times yesterday, then I stopped, because of all the lock ups.
Title: Serious BUG
Post by: tarra on July 05, 2002, 07:28:33 PM
It happened to me too Tonight!!Pc crashed when flying in middair!!!Had to Reset PC!@!

HT has to do smthing to fix it!!
   

                                   Tarras

After 2 new patches!!!
Title: Re: System Freeze
Post by: Flossy on July 06, 2002, 07:10:48 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Corrs
I was flying around and went to look left (it might have been back, left) and everything froze, all I had was the engine sound and a frozen image of what I last looked at.
I had everything freeze last night too.... had to hit the reset button in the end, as nothing else worked.  I can't remember if I looked to the left, but I might have done.  I do remember I had the clipboard up at the time and was in a Lancaster.
Title: System Freeze
Post by: usarmy on July 07, 2002, 10:03:15 AM
Same problem here. It has happened twice since 1.10 came out, once while I was in the position 3 gun view of a panzer, and once while I was gunning on a CV. It's a hard lockup, frozen view with continual sound, and I have to reset the computer.

usarmy
Title: System Freeze
Post by: Vedge122 on July 07, 2002, 01:29:36 PM
Mine locked up for the first time ever online, right after patch 1 (but films started locking up right after 1.10 patch 0).  In the MA, it froze when I was in a tight left turn (with slight tunnel vision) and someone started speaking on the radio.  I still heard my engine, and the person's voice went into a loop.

Windows 98 First Edition
DirectX 8.1
Abit VH6 133fsb MoBo
Intel Pentium III 866MHz
3x256MB 133MHz SDRAM
Diamond Viper V770 Ultra 32MB
Maxtor 20GB ATA66 HDD
Maxtor 120GB ATA133 HDD
Promise Ultra133 TX2 PCI IDE Controller
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Title: System Freeze
Post by: 38ruk on July 07, 2002, 02:38:47 PM
had mine freez for the first time ever goin threw a 17 formation when i exploded the leader  kinda weird 38
Title: Screen freezes2
Post by: nbank1 on July 13, 2002, 05:02:46 AM
We're trying to  get some answers on another thread but I have the problem too.  Happens to me every few minutes now. Had the problem in he last update too. Check thread board. I've been after HiTech tech support for 3 months now on his issue.
Title: System Freeze
Post by: krazyhorse on July 18, 2002, 09:17:43 AM
having same probs, screen freezes , have to reboot computer , thia NEVER happened till the new version came out.   With this many complaining , it sure as hell  needs fixed:mad:
Title: System Freeze
Post by: guttboy on July 18, 2002, 11:21:56 PM
Guys,
See the posts on the BUG reports section.  Many of us have felt your pain and I for one have felt it tons today.  Seems as though alot of it is when you roll in on buff formations.   Screen freeze, continuous sound, must reboot computer.  Never had problems before the patch.

Spoke with Matthew at HTC today and emailed him the film of the latest crash.  If you have a chance film your flights and if you FREEZE please send it to them so they can trouble shoot it.

I know this is frustrating but please send it to them.  If you film just send the lastest one...that will be the crash one...and yes it does film it.  Hope this helps us all.

:p
Title: System Freeze
Post by: phentop on July 19, 2002, 12:08:15 PM
I dont have any saved films yet but this has happened to me several times and in the same situation everytime.
I'll be behind within 800 and closing into a shallow dive and slight turn left. When I reach to within 500 and ready to fire ............................. ............................. ............................. ........
well thats where the story ends everytime I get a lockup ... I remember every one  cause I usually  jump up cussing at my computer...




IBaLL
Title: System Freeze
Post by: Wizer on July 19, 2002, 12:55:47 PM
I am now having the same screen freeze up problems.  However, My problems did not start until the MA went back to the old terrains.  I did notice that my screen freeze up occurs when I look left or bank left.  This last one occurred when I banked left and dove on a formation of B-17s.  Screen froze up when I got within 800 yards of the aircraft.
Title: System Freeze
Post by: Replicant on July 20, 2002, 01:40:25 PM
I've had a few lockups today on the isles terrain.  The first was whilst in an Ostwind.  I'd just killed a Boston III and as his bombs hit me I went into a lockup with sound loop.

The other lockup was on auto-takeoff from A1 in a Typhoon.  I wasn't touching any controls.... just locked up.

Additionally I've been having CTDs with this terrain.  Desert terrain was fine.
Title: System Freeze
Post by: senna on July 22, 2002, 01:57:41 AM
Please help,

Well this weekend I spent time rebuilding my system and cleaning out all the dust. I'm am still getting system freezes about once  every three sorties (most my sorties are long) or about once every hour or hour & 1/2. Really irritating. Sometimes I'll get two freezes within about 5 minutes but thats more rare howevre from time to time does occur. The worst evening was that night I first posted about this. Now that I've cleaned up my system and reinstalled the OS, I'm inclined now to think its the software and not my system. Irritating...

:confused: :mad: :( :o
Title: System Freeze
Post by: senna on July 23, 2002, 06:22:21 AM
Well some good news at last. Absolutely no lockups tonight. I upgraded my DirectX to 8.1 and so far the first time on, I experienced no lockups. However on the flip side of the coin, I thought game play was wierd tonight, very mushy with alot of rubber bullets and general poor network connect. I could not land a single mission all night. Anyways good news, no lockups with DirectX 8.1. Well see what happens tomorrow.
Title: System Freeze
Post by: Turbot on July 24, 2002, 11:59:09 AM
(1) I stand a quite good chance of a system freeze when first one of the three B17s dies and I am looking in that direction (whether I was the one shooting or not).  HAs not yet occurred with the other bomber formations, just b17's.  Most days things are fine, but god help me if I go near a b17 formation.

(2) Occasionally get CTD with a DxHelp.exe (or something like that)  errror message.   After the CTD AH will not restart unless I reboot.

Win98se
Athlon XP 1800
256 meg system ram
Geforce2 Mx400 64 meg video ram
ECS K7SVA mobo (latest bios)
SB Live 5.1

CPU temp in hardware monitor after an "event" 48 degrees Centigrade  (which I felt was VERY good - have lots of cooling).

DSL Internet connection

Clean install of Windows and Game

Running DX 8.1

Running Mitsu Sound Pack  <---hmmmm?
Title: System Freeze
Post by: senna on July 25, 2002, 05:31:49 AM
No lockups tonight so I believe my lockups are resolved. Alot alot  of freezes everynight compared to none at all means fixed for me. Only thing is that DirectX8.1 doesnt seem to me as 100% smooth as 8.0 was. Just a very little bit here and there in terms of lost of smoothness but otherwise is very playable. Tonights session went well. Back to normal.

:D
Title: System Freeze
Post by: AKIron on July 25, 2002, 12:10:22 PM
Been some screen freezing and CTDs for many of us since 1.10. Feel sure it's being worked.
Title: System Freeze
Post by: akak on July 25, 2002, 01:21:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by senna
No lockups tonight so I believe my lockups are resolved. Alot alot  of freezes everynight compared to none at all means fixed for me. Only thing is that DirectX8.1 doesnt seem to me as 100% smooth as 8.0 was. Just a very little bit here and there in terms of lost of smoothness but otherwise is very playable. Tonights session went well. Back to normal.

:D


Here's a link to DirectX 8.1b.  Haven't found the feature list for it so I don't know what was fixed or added to this version.

DirectX 8.1b (http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/release.asp?ReleaseID=40153&area=search&ordinal=15)


Ack-Ack
Title: System Freeze
Post by: senna on July 25, 2002, 03:13:33 PM
Thanks for 8.1b update. I only just updated the other day but looks like I am running DirectX8.1. I usually get my DirectX stuff from

http://www.microsoft.com/directx

There seems to be an 8.1b file there now.
Title: FYI: HT
Post by: senna on July 26, 2002, 06:43:41 AM
Yuck DirectX8.1b sucks. I had two system freezes and B&Z was next to suicidal. All would be ok then when the con is in shooting range, all frame heck would break loose. Well not really but it was twitchy and sticky (including my plane) enough that I couldnt hit squat and once it even crahed me into a hill. Was chasing down a yak then it got twitchy and sticky, next thing I know I went into a hill with a bunch of frames missing in between (the part where I would have pulled up a bit). Got so mad and frustrated so I downloaded DirectX8.1 again. Back to normal and playable again. Very little twitches here and there but playable at least. I was getting beatup with 8.1b.

8.0a is still the smoothest though it locks up alot now.

I think 8.1 is a slight bit faster by some FPS per second though with a slight subtle bit of twitchiness and stickiness with the con and my own plane.

8.1b is more twitchy/sticky than 8.1 and is not reliable for ACM.



Title: System Freeze
Post by: senna on July 27, 2002, 06:08:47 AM
FYI: HT

Bad news today, lotsa freezes again with DirectX8.1 not b.

BTW: The F4u-1C seems to have a frames issue when the guns are fired. The screen gets jumpy, difficult to aim.

Was hoping that I had found some sorta fix but I guess not. Please HELP.

Thanks...
Title: System Freeze
Post by: AKIron on July 27, 2002, 08:47:34 AM
Had a couple system freezes last night. The first time it happened after I logged in but before I got to the choose an arena screen. That is the first time I've locked up while not actually flying. Based on that it would seem to me it's in the net code rather than something in the sound or video, just guessing.
Title: System Freeze / Crash to Desktop
Post by: Tumbler on July 28, 2002, 04:58:04 PM
I've been having this problem a lot lately. I am flying around, usually by myself, or mabye a couple other planes in the area and without warning, I'm back at the desktop. No error, no indications of crash, nothing.

Other times I'll be flying aorund and the whole system will lock. I have ot hard boot it by turning it off to get it working again.

I'm on a Dell Inspiron 8200 Laptop. I've updated all my drivers and am running XP. I have 256mb of Ram, my video card is Geforce 4 440 go with 64 mb of ram. I don't have any problems with other games and normally this one runs great. But for no reason that I can tell it keeps crashing to the desktop.

Any fixes that you know of?

Brett
brettgwilliams2002@ureach.com
Title: System Freeze
Post by: usarmy on July 28, 2002, 08:20:14 PM
Tumbler,

This is not a unique problem to only you. Several of us have had the same problems. There have been a lot of screen freezes and CTD since v1.10 came out.

I hope HTC is working on it.
Title: System Freeze
Post by: av8or on August 06, 2002, 10:10:36 AM
hey guys i get system freezes with that sound loop and mentioned it to my squad and figured out it was my video card over heating so now i run it with the side open and it runs a whole lot smoother, and doesn't lock up.
Title: System Freeze
Post by: goaly on August 06, 2002, 09:43:16 PM
I'm having to unplug my comp. 2 or 3 times a night due to screen freezes since the update.... Imagine how many players are also having this problem but don't visit these boards.

So what's in the works????
Title: System Freeze
Post by: Motoer on August 07, 2002, 10:52:48 AM
Monday nite Had a real nasty lockup sound loop and Messed up Graphics. had to hard reset :mad:  Tryed to get back into AH
But no go
:(  now im locking up the seconed i hit the online button
I have tried everything but a F-disk and reformat
 :mad: This toejam needs to be fixed..................:rolleyes:



Moto_ at work
Title: System Freeze
Post by: Corrs on August 09, 2002, 10:07:44 PM
I have been pretty lucky lately with no puter lock-ups. I don't think my vid card overheating was a problem because it has dual fans on it and I blow out the inner tower often, but it could be a problem with other PC's vid cards. So far so good on no lock ups since since new version patch 1, but I haven't been on as much lately so maybe that has something to do with it :D
Title: System Freeze
Post by: guttboy on August 10, 2002, 08:39:40 AM
Goaly,
Same problem here....no info yet from HTC.....not sure whats going on with it and I seriously doubt that the majority of us are having overheating CPU's and Vid cards.

Dell Dimension 4400
2.0 Ghz processor P4
256 DDR SDRAM
NVidia GeForce 3 Ti 200 Card
Win XP Pro
Direct X 8.1

Computer purchased new in Feb...no problems until updates.:confused:
Title: Lockups on views
Post by: stenographer on August 11, 2002, 09:10:35 PM
I've been getting this problem increasingly since about version 1.09, but more so since 1.10 came out.  Worst one I had froze up the whole system with last view - and guns sound in a loop!

Some nights I have three or four CTDs, but I get the momentary screen lockups loads of times each flight.
Title: is it realy true?
Post by: Corrs on August 12, 2002, 10:44:23 PM
Oh My God, can it be, have they finally fixed the lock up problem with patch 4?
Title: System Freeze
Post by: KBall on August 14, 2002, 03:50:28 AM
I'm still getting sytem lockups even with the Patch 4. They happen randomly and the only sure thing is I get a sytem lock at least every hour. The lockups can happen when sitting on runway, taking off, landing, in GVs,  when fighting in any plane against any other plane...including bombers, and during normal flight while looking around using different views.