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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Fester' on August 03, 2001, 09:27:00 PM
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fishu's 347 kill and 0 death beta tour 2 record still stands
:p
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Better luck next time :)
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Phew.. :eek:
In which plane?-)
[ 08-03-2001: Message edited by: Fishu ]
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P-51D and P-51b
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WTG.
Who got ya?
BTW Fester,
What do you think is the most survivable plane in AH?
eskimo
[ 08-04-2001: Message edited by: eskimo2 ]
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p51d without a doubt
its dive acceleration and e retention make it more survivable than all planes with a faster sustained speed such as tempest, typhoon, 190d9, 109g10.
and it is faster than the La7 at all but lowest altitudes though La7 has better vertical performance at altitudes up to 25k ( learned this the hard way :) )
Airguard in a low fuel La7 caught me in a dogfight that went from 30k (yup 2 dweebs at 30k 1 La7 1 p51d) down to 20k then to 27k where he caught me trying to hammer him after a zoom. tride to evade by throwing it into a spin but he hit my tail with 2 20mm and it fell off.
P-51d with its speed, range and great high alt performance make it a laid back easy going killer so you can pick your fights with no sense of urgency
:p
[ 08-04-2001: Message edited by: Fester' ]
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hit my tail with 2 20mm and it fell off
Your incredible eye sight certainly explains your skill.
Wow.
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WTG on the streak.
Though Fishu is only one ;). he may whine here and there, but his record stands for 18 months or so now.
I agree on P51, still most survivable plane.
As for La7, it loops endlessly. I wittnessed it doing continous loops at 25-30k and beating both D-9 and G-10 at it.
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cc to bad to destroy a good streak like that.
well had a lucky deflection shoot on ure tail yes :)
for info my best streak this tour is 2 kills hahahah.
airguard
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Never thought the La7 was that good at such alt. Got into a brawl once at 25K in a Spit vs La7 and looped with him untill he stalled and had to dive away. Must have been a really good pilot to out-loop a p51 that high up :eek:
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well i had extremly good e and didnt push to much g`s + low on fuel :D
airguard
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WTG Fester, nice streak :)
Originally posted by Hristo:
Though Fishu is only one ;). he may whine here and there, but his record stands for 18 months or so now.
and he did it in a Fw190A8. Unless someone does a similar streak in a C202, a zero, a Fw190A8 or even a P47D25/D30, then I will still think that fishu's streak is the best.
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Or a Stuka in WWIIOL.
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Originally posted by Creamo:
Or a Stuka in WWIIOL.
really hard to do it in a stuka in AH :p
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Or Niki ;)
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well, I made it to four Big-Macs then I was sick... :D
Nexx
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LOL S! WTG ROTFLOL he HEHEHE HAHAHA!
R4metzASSt thats funny! WTG S!
I get it, WWIIOL has 4 planes types, and since AH doesn't have the WWIIOL SPITUKA, it would be impossible to score that! hahahah, LOL, ROTFLOL.. I get it!
Oh man, WTG! Funny! :D :) :p
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TArds
[ 08-04-2001: Message edited by: Creamo ]
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yep creamo, you would be a nice clown :) good show.
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Well, Creamo, guess we can all figure out how things are going with the widely advertised Exodus to the Promised Land, eh?
What was that movie that had the tag line "They're baa-aaaaaaack"?
Well, it was a nice vacation anyway.
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Heh toad if you are suggesting I'm back in AH then you are in an error :) When I left,I said what does AH need to have before I give a serious thought to be back. And nothing of what I said is here.
I'm in the forums,tho, because I like planes and I have opinions I like to give. And I sometimes fly in H2H too :)
[ 08-04-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]
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Guess they just don't have these high quality forums elsewhere.
It's certainly OK by me. I've already won a bet. :)
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Yipslon (sp?) ran up some some pretty amazing streaks and K/Ds flying the 51D as well for several tours in the past.
I don't think I have the patience that the P-51 requires and hate not having cannon.
<S> again Fester,
Great experement.
eskimo
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Originally posted by Toad:
Guess they just don't have these high quality forums elsewhere.
It's certainly OK by me. I've already won a bet. :)
In WWIIOL forums there is nothing like the aircraft&vehicles forum present in AH forums, that is true.
And I cant care less about you and your bets :). I stopped paying for a product wich didnt give me what I wanted. I am still,sometimes, in H2H. And I've been on this boards all the time.
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Originally posted by R4M:
WTG Fester, nice streak :)
and he did it in a Fw190A8. Unless someone does a similar streak in a C202, a zero, a Fw190A8 or even a P47D25/D30, then I will still think that fishu's streak is the best.
Excellent job "cheapening" his streak there R4Metzassts. Its nice to shed some light on the subject and let us all know that his streak means nothing because he was driving an "allied opportunist" bird. I hope everyone understands exactly what it is you are trying to say..... :rolleyes:
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what a jerk... :rolleyes:
so, you are comparing the survability of a C202, a Fw190A8, or a P47D25/D30 with that of a P51?.
Go take a pill, loser :)
P.S. I would say just the same had he been in a Fw190D9, a La7, or even a 109G10. The Fw190A8 is a flying brick with wings,unable to climb, unable to turn, unable to zoom, unable to dive, and its not really fast either. So, yes, an 350 kill streak on board a P51 is nothing near what fishu did wiht that 190A8. Tard :)
[ 08-05-2001: Message edited by: R4M ]
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As long as he is a broke squeak in HTH claiming he hates AH and clinging on to every BBS post and update, you should respect that misery Sling.
Give the kid a break.
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so, you are comparing the survability of a C202, a Fw190A8, or a P47D25/D30 with that of a P51?.
You are comparing the survivability of a c.202 to an Fw190A-8? :rolleyes: Your pention for exageration remains unchanged.
BTW.. check out fester's record in a c.202 last tour.
150 straight kills in any plane is tough. No need to come in here and say otherwise ram.
AKDejaVu
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hate to burst your bubble RAM but fishu died 11 times in fighters during this beta tour 2 streak
his 347 kill streak shows a kill/death ratio of 25/1
[ 08-05-2001: Message edited by: Citabria ]
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Cit is right, I checked the stats,
Fishu was shot down 11 times in that Beta Tour 2.
That same tour however, Ypsilon had a K/D of 38 : 1
In Tour 7 he had 82 kills and 0 deaths!
Untill now, I would say that was the record.
eskimo
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I don't know where those 11 deaths come from - because they are not recorded in the kill stats, which say 347 kills for 0 deaths. :confused:
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I'd like to clear some things:
first, 278 kills were in Fw190A8, rest were in other planes.. (or close to that)
11 killed... there was a bug in ground things back then that caused me to die already when I got in the plane few times.
(I guess that bug discussion doesnt exist anymore as board been reseted already twice or so.. but you might check it from HT if he remembers)
I don't really remember it anymore, but I remember that it caused the kills while I was on the ground without danger of getting killed.
I don't remember though in what planes those happend, as I surely didn't give much attention to that other than cursing to myself and whining to forums about the bug.
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I looked pilot scores and remembered the case:
Those killeds were disconnects from the
host, as no landing was counted if you got disconnected and that was automatically dropped into killed caterogy.
Killed in ground bug in either despawning or spawning caused death only in 3-5 case
I just didn't remember that whole disconnect thing at all :(
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I'd like to remind you also that kill streak is not K/D.
Kill streak is longest streak of kills without getting killed.
So forget those K/D compares, I've never tried to get high K/D, but high streaks.
Too bad they missed streak counters then.. I liked that streak feature in WarBirds.
In flight / aerial combat, nobody shot me down or caused me to go down. (definately not in Fw190a8)
Closest cases were something like vertical stab coming off once and wingtip missing twice and some unbelievable hits in the bottom from Kierens P51 without damage.
Also case where I was destroying buildings down low in B17 at empty field and then one came there with fighter for like 10 times, who I vulched down before he got up.. luckily he didn't get up anymore as I had ran out of ammo in the B17.
(I got still screenshots somewhere.. specially of those wingtipless times)
Ps. I've brought Ypsilon down in random 1 on 1 meeting with C-202 ;)
[ 08-06-2001: Message edited by: Fishu ]
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hi all:
I really should stay out of this as I don't need to throw gas on a burning fire. It is a good record, fishu should be proud. but in beta 2, there was no 190's and you could not destoy the buildings at the field. unless he was talking about the ammo dumps and fuel depots. the hangers could not be shot down. and as there was no V hanger, it could not be shot either.
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Originally posted by wolf37:
hi all:
I really should stay out of this as I don't need to throw gas on a burning fire. It is a good record, fishu should be proud. but in beta 2, there was no 190's and you could not destoy the buildings at the field. unless he was talking about the ammo dumps and fuel depots. the hangers could not be shot down. and as there was no V hanger, it could not be shot either.
In B-17.
The guys name who tried to come up that some 10 times was Wolf37, if I recall right.
...oh.. thats you by the way ;)
ah.. I found it:
wolf37 has 0 kills and has been killed 5 times against Fishu in the B-17G.
(must been some other guy coming up next couple times.. as I recall that I shot some 7-10 planes there)
[ 08-05-2001: Message edited by: Fishu ]
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lol
so now you remember who you shot down 10 times in one night way back in beta 2. by the way, I just took a peek at your score for beta 2 fishu, hmmm it seems you only had some 200 kills. where did the number 300 and something come from.
and that 5 times could be over two to four weeks.
[ 08-05-2001: Message edited by: wolf37 ]
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Originally posted by wolf37:
lol
so now you remember who you shot down 10 times in one night way back in beta 2. by the way, I just took a peek at your score for beta 2 fishu, hmmm it seems you only had some 200 kills. where did the number 300 and something come from.
I didn't want to mention your name, I've remembered you for a long time as it was so close..
I did mention same case in another thread too, some month ago or so and I didn't want to mention your name.
didn't think it as good thought, until you came to yap about strafing buildings ;)
This is what it gave to me when inquiring kill stats:
"Fishu has 347 kills and has been killed 0 times."
(hmm, it has long memory)
Looks like I got 7 kills in B17 that tour - those were all from the same field in same day, otherwise I was just sissy bombing. (I didn't even carry weapons most of the time, as it gave little climbing bonus which was importat to get when going to close by field)
As I recall, I was there strafing buildings for the score as it seemed so lifeless field.
Otherwise kills were following:
Fw190a8 - 278 (I've kept this as my streak)
B17 - 7
Spitfire IX - 15 (should I be ashamed? ;))
Bf109 - 17
okey.. couldn't find the others.. guess I need more coffein.
[ 08-05-2001: Message edited by: Fishu ]
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I just took another look at the scores.
if you check kill stats, fishu has 347 kills, no deaths.
if you check pilot score, fishu has,
in fighter, 212 fighters and 93 bomber kills.
in bomber, fishu has 7 fighter kills
as for any kills in a 190 of any model, no kills, the 190's where not yet in the game.
and in beta two, fishu killed wolf37 8 times, as wolf37 had no kills against fishu.
[ 08-05-2001: Message edited by: wolf37 ]
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Anyway, I wouldn't mind to start arquing about that do I have 278 streak in Fw190 or not, since that wouldn't change anything - I know it better than any of you what I did in Fw190a8 during BTour 2.
That was clear streak and if you wan't to refer to streak, refer to 278 and Fw190a8, I don't really care of those rest kills :)
(190 streak was special to me, others were just done aside it)
What comes to Festers streak in P-51, I think its really good job as P-51 really isn't that great either, although, clearly better for disengaging than Fw190A8. (but A8 sure does dive away good :> )
If you get caught in P-51 in bad situation, its far worse than it has been.
In Btour 2, P-51 made some unbelievable stunts that its no more capable of.
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Wolf37,
Uhh.. Fw190A-8 was in the game already in beta tour 2 ;)
A-5 nor F-8 wasn't.
Why are we arquing now?-)
Ps. So were the guns of B-17 already in BT2.
[ 08-06-2001: Message edited by: Fishu ]
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I got to 47 kills last tour in G10 then I rammed a niki I was shooting....
Not like your guys streaks but Im happy. :)
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ:
I got to 47 kills last tour in G10 then I rammed a niki I was shooting....
Not like your guys streaks but Im happy. :)
lol.. sounds like my warbirds streaks.
Twice got over 50 in P-38J, then rammed BOTH times into B-25's butt while attacking from above ;)
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best i ever done was 18 ... :(
RWY
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perk the P-51 :D
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All this is mute. Anyone that can get over 50 kills and no deaths amazes me, period. 200+? Wow. 300? Can't imagine.
I once took and B17 off from many, many sectors away from any reds to grab alt, and there was a P38 (Cit)at the same base rolling. It was a 20 minute ride or so in that thing, let alone a B17.
You can have the greatest mission getting 5 kills from a vulched field, just as BnZ'ing safely for a month. The stats don't show a whole lot.
IF you can play that way, more power to you. Incredible record with out a doubt.