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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: hblair on June 01, 2000, 12:10:00 AM
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Have you ever pondered the sanity of your countrymen? (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Tonight me and a couple other countrymen came up with a lose plan. We were gonna take A27. There were low enemy fighters around, but we had good fighter cap, so it seemed doable.
I was orbiting the field in a B17 making passes on the hangars, the ack was already down. We had a goon enroute, everything seemed to be progressing nicely. After 2 or 3 passes on the hangars I notice our goon nearby, about that time I see the hangars are all down and call for the goon on country channel to drop the drunks, nothing.
Assuming he discoed, I get on country channel, "Help at 27, we need a goon, will anybody volunteer?" (or something to that effect) nothing.
I tell the other bomber that I'm gonna auger and grab a goon. I get on private channel with him and get updates as I was enroute.(forgot his handle, but he was a big help) I get close to the field and my spotter in the buff has picked up a con or something, he said he was BZ (understandable). So I get on country channel again with the usual kinda stuff, "how is 27?" "Any cons nearby?, updates guys?" nothing.
There were some of our guys over the friggin' field that just didn't answer for whatever reason.
So I keep asking for updates as I'm making my approach, with no response I get my goon close to the field slide it in front of the map room, and there is a GD Panzer sitting right next to the front door that readily puts his main gun to my ass.
I don't usually get mad at people in the game, but Good Grief, is it that hard to just say "I don't know" ??
I know we don't all want to take bases every time we log on and I wasn't asking anybody too, I was just asking a couple of simple questions, and couldn't get any response. Driving a goon is not the funnest thing in the world, but when your countrymen don't even care to help, it really sux.
Fellas, you can have the best strategy game there is, but if the game is played by people who don't give a rats arse about the strategy, all that programming is for naught.
I might get roughed up and kicked out of ****land for this, <G> but I just HAD to get this one off my chest. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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Like DUH!
Your radio musta been broken dude!!!
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hblair,
That's happened to me on several occasions, but I've always chalked it up to,- I can't speak their language, and they can't speak English.
- Things are too involved for them to notice the text buffer.
- Someone is a little miffed about something, and cooling off.
- Some are loners.
Like chute-shooting, I've really become accustomed to lack of communication at times. Not all the time, but most of the time.
Most times I get online I'll kind of 'test the air' by saying, "hi all!," then see what sort of response comes. If there are responses, I'll ask what's up, but if the responses are nil, then I figure on 'loning it'.
But, ya, it can get old, hblair.
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Leonid...
I wouldnt be that lucky to catch you alone (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
Dog out......
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Totally agree with ya blair. That stuff happens all the time. It is especially frustrating when ya bringen in a gooner and there is like a bunch of our guys around the tgt and ya cant get a sitrep at all. I hear ya!
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Spike
Let's Flyyyyyyyyy
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Alot of folks fly together using RW and when they do usually the radio text ends up getting ignored.
-Westy
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That was a pretty good summary of my experiences flying goons.
Sisu
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dont get me started....
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"Stupids are like flies. they are everywere, but are easy to kill"
RAM
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Hi hblair....
It is simply the nature of an MA that contains a mixed flying skill set from newbies to veterans, all with varied interest levels of realism expectations.
With the advent of terrain creation tools, improved CM tools and a mission planner, the more coordinated squad and HA type flying you're looking for will emerge.
Until then, do what I do. Simply wade into the MA and ignore any realism issues and expect support only when it is of interest to the current group who are there when you arrive.
Regards,
Badger
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Funny thing was..
The country channel was active. I was just flat out ignored for some reason.
Another thing that cracks me up...
I was flying goon a week or so ago, a field was prepped for capture, I was almost there. I was to the north, a couple of bad guys in fighters, and one of our fighters was to the south. I tell our guy not to kill 'em, just drag 'em further south so I can drop the troops. Naturally, he dives in and kills two of 'em, they respawn as I'm getting to the field and they kill me. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
I've lost most captures at the last second because of my own countryman. I guess I'm gonna have to grow my squad bigger and just do these things within the squad.
Don't get me wrong, I'm not a big field capture guy, haven't even took one this whole last tour, prolly have 4 sorties in goons, but I would fly them more if I knew I had help. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
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see blair...that's what you get for going "over there"!! heh (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Mason22
Fat Drunk Bastards (http://fdb.50megs.com) -- "shut up and FLY"
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rgr that badger.
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Ok guys, you can now Drop the "Squelch Hblair" Campaign (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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When I go in I look at what is happening; sometimes I will pitch into the defense or offense, sometimes I will do my own thing.
As far as the goon thing is concerned, I have learned this; don't count on anyone. Do it yourself, start to finish, and if people help, great, if not, great too. I don't get mad this way. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Never assume that anyone has a field prepped, as it is amazing the number of people that don't realize that an open vehicle hangar is tantamount to a death sentence to an incoming goon (ironic, given the ridiculous ease by which Vhangars can be strafed down).
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Originally posted by hblair:
rgr that badger.
By the way my friend, I forgot to mention that the next time you're in the MA and this Baby Harp Seal is also there, I'd be happy to fly and support you in whatever capacity you need. Gunner, Air Cap, Escort, Recon...let me know.
Regards,
Badger
The New Baby Harp Seals
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HBlair, there are two things which drive the actions of many players:
1. Apathy.
2. Ignorance.
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I absolutely agree with you Hblair - the exact same thing happened to me yesterday attacking 29 (I think it was).
Logged in disgust.
I'm wondering if next time I log on I'll start a "co-operation Channel" and people who want to work together can go on that and that way you aren't wasting your fingers on country channel. If sqaud mates turn up then I may swap to that or maybe all gather on one ??
Sparks
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Hb, I saw the whole situation unfold last night, and it was ugly. While you guys were hitting 27 from the air, I captured 56. From 56 you can get to 27 in 60secs in a downhill 300 mph panzer. I finished off both hangers and got killed by 4 or 5 panzers? The same panzer that killed you had been on the field for at least 10 mins with some attack from friendly AC. As I made my last trip down the hill I saw u off in the distance otd and ina tank going 300 its impossible to type and drive. I kinda thought that with all the AC over 27 someone would tell you about the tank, but not. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/frown.gif)
Right after you died and I made a ground loop. Looked at the dar and most of the Rook AC were at or headed to 16?
Blurted out something on #2 channel and logged to cool off. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif)
Get with me when your online and we can do some dual squad raids.
[This message has been edited by wizzer (edited 06-01-2000).]
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Hblair and Wizzer,
The Musketeer Escadrille would be willing to do some co-op cquad stuff with ya also.
Look us up when your online as well.
Cobra
Musketeer Escadrille
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I was at 27 for a while last night in a tank(had to leave because of softball game) and was supprised you guys didn't get it.
When I got there I saw nothing but red in the air and tanks rolling down the hill so I jumped in my tank and went after the first tank I could reach(wizzer) and positioned myself so when they rolled down the hill they would have to go right by me.
I only had to defend myself against 2 AC(51 adn F4). To me it looked like you guys should have had it easy but since you had no air support I had no problem defending against the fast moving tanks(I knew it would be hard for them to shoot me while doing 150mph).
When I left I couldn't help but think these guys have to be new or we would have been slaughtered.
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Mighty1
The New Baby Harp Seals
"Come try to club THIS Seal"
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The problem is we couldn't hear you and come help cause you were on the country channel hblair. You need to either announce it on the global channel next time, or come back to bishops.
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LOL, yep mighty1 I was new to the AH roller coaster. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) After you left, and I recaptured 56 the second time. I figured out that the tanks go faster in neutral. 1st attempt I hit the hanger at 30+ mph and of course died on impact. If I had only known then what I know now....you woulda needed sidewinder to hit me. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
wizzer
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Don't want to turn this into a trol but.....
Couldn't agree more hblair.
I've done a fair few solo captures, (Bomb, Ditch, get goon, take field). It doesn't take many people to take a field and after the ack the vehicle hanger is just about the most important target there is. I'm with you if you ever want a bit of cooprative field taking look me up.
TTFN
snafu.
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Well, my faith has been restored. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/smile.gif) Thanks for all the replies. I'll sure hook up with you guys when I see you online.
Fatty, I've told ya, you've gotta come to Vegas if you want to see me again. (http://bbs.hitechcreations.com/smf/Smileys/default/biggrin.gif)
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Yep, HB and I were toolin along, CAP'n the field, he grabbed a gooney, I Atwittle'd to eat a sandwich, I come back, we still don't own the base and HB was gone, I wondered was was up with that.........SIGH
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