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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: EvilDingo on July 09, 2002, 08:39:44 AM
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HT was in the MA this morning and someone asked about future planes for the VVS and Japan. HT said that so far there is 1 new Soviet aircraft coming in 1.11.
Soooooo...
Which do you think it is? I wonder if it's a fighter or bomber. LaGG-3 possibly? The later model LaGG-3s would fair pretty well in the MA I think. Sort of like a VVS Spitfire.
If it's a fighter, I'd like something with some punch or at least moderate amounts of gas to get it around. Those are the only two things keeping me out of the Soviet planes we have already.
Mig-3? Yak-3?
Hmmm.
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Yak-3 is cool. Sorta looks like a Spitfire to me though.
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Pe-2, LaGG-3 or Yak-3, one of those for sure.
Unless of course, its a P-39 carefully disguised as a Soviet fighter... ;)
My regards,
Widewing
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I-153 I-153 I-153 Pleaseeeeeeeeeeee HTC :D
And I-153 carries decent amount of fuel, I think somewhere = to the spit fire but not sure on that will have to check :) (I know the Gloster Gladiator actuelly had a longer flight time then all of the spitfire models)
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I did not say there was 1 new soviet aircraft in the works. I was answereing a question from soviet, and said that we had started work on 1 new aircraft.
Btw it's realy no big deal we start new aircraft all the time.
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lol! Good thing he wasn't talking with Nuke!
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Would one of those new aircraft ur working on happen to have 2 wings?:D
PS. if natedog or superfly ever need any referances to biplane pics I got 1000's of em!
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At one stage HTC were working on the Tu-2 but they stopped due to lack of some data (IIRC). Perhaps they've mamanged to find what they were missing last time?
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YAK3 Is the plane I'd like to see introduced.
...-Gixer
The Horse Soldiers
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bring the PO-2 night bomber!
the slowest plane to see WWII combat?
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I'm betting it's the Tu-2, because pyro was asking for stats on it about 5 months ago.
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If I didn't list the plane type, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference between a Yak-3 and the Yak-9U in terms of AH.
About the only benefit of adding of Yak3 is if you put it in Normandie-Niemen colors so that there would then be a "French" fighter in the game.
Probably the next "Soviet" plane in AH would be the traditional Yak-9D, the midwar Yak varient. It compares to the Yak-9U, as the La5FN compares to the La7. Basically the Yak-9T we already have, with the single 20mm and x2 12.7mm MG's, instead of the big gun.
Of course I would hope that Pyro would finally give us the Yak-9UT that he promised us about a year and a half ago ;) But I'm not holding my breath.
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Originally posted by cajun
Would one of those new aircraft ur working on happen to have 2 wings?:D
PS. if natedog or superfly ever need any referances to biplane pics I got 1000's of em!
Well actually Cajun, a biplane has four wings, and a monowing plane has 2, so...:D
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The Yak 7 would be an interesting early/mid war Soviet plane, or the Yak 1M. I-16/24 would be a hoot. Probably the Tu-2 though.
Yak-3 should be considerably hotter than the 9 as I recall.
Charon
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actually the 9U is very close in performance to the 3.
yak-3
Technical data
Type Yak-3
Function fighter
Year 1943
Crew 1
Engines 1*VK-105PF-2
Wing Span 9.20m
Length 8.49m
Height 2.42m
Wing Area 14.83m2
Empty Weight 2105kg
Maximum Weight Maximum 2550kg
Speed 655km/h
Ceiling 10800m
Range 900km
Armament
Guns 1*g20mm
2*mg12.7mm
yak9u
General Information
Type Yak-9
Function Fighter
Bomber
Recce
Year 1942 - 1947
Crew 1
Powerplant (1)
Type M-105 variants
M-106
VK-107A
Takeoff Power 1210...1650hp
Normal Power 1000...1500hp
Size (m)
Length 8.50...8.87
Height ?
Wingspan 9.74...10.74
Wing area (m2) 17.15
Weights (kg) and loads
Empty 2098...2708
Loaded 2500...3556
Wing Load (kg/m2)
Power load (kg/hp)
Speed (km/h)
at 0m 500...600
Maximum 558...700
Landing 125...144
Maneuverability
Turn time 16...26sec
Roll (m)
Takeoff 305...440
Landing 400...580
Range (km)
Practical 598...1800
Ceiling (m)
Practical 7500...13100
Climb (min)
5000m 4.1...7.5
Combat turn 650...1380m
Payload (kg)
Fuel 240...620
Armament
Gun Type 20...45mm
Position Propeller hub, one
Ammo 120...29
Gun Type 12.7...20mm
Position Engine cowling (1...2)
Ammo 340...175
Salvo (kg/sec) 1.28...6.0
Bombs up to 400kg
http://hep2.physics.arizona.edu/~savin/ram/index.html
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Originally posted by Kevin14
Well actually Cajun, a biplane has four wings, and a monowing plane has 2, so...:D
...Well, Mono means 1, Bi means 2 so biplanes are really mono planes and mono planes are really what happens to german/italian fighters if I ever get a gladiator? :D
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I did not say there was 1 new soviet aircraft in the works. I was answereing a question from soviet, and said that we had started work on 1 new aircraft.
:D
Oops...
I don't remember exactly, but I thought it read: "there is 1 soviet"
Which made me think, "Oh! 1 Soviet plane" Of course, it was early and clearly I wasn't thinking straight.
Damn you Soviet! :)
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well weve had all (or most) of the early war set now... must be a late war one I reckon.
as is usually argued it has to not skew the arena and serve some sort of purpose and if possible also piss off Warbirds or Fighter Ace as being distinct to AH...
hmmmmm...
Id bet on the Hayate
but id love a wierder one like the catalina or sunderland.
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Originally posted by faminz
well weve had all (or most) of the early war set now... must be a late war one I reckon.
as is usually argued it has to not skew the arena and serve some sort of purpose and if possible also piss off Warbirds or Fighter Ace as being distinct to AH...
hmmmmm...
Id bet on the Hayate
but id love a wierder one like the catalina or sunderland.
Early war set (especially italian, russian, japanese & german) are nowhere near complete, but I'd bet it will be a mix of early and mid war (maybe even a late war) planes.
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Originally posted by cajun:
I know the Gloster Gladiator actuelly had a longer flight time then all of the spitfire models
canjun,
Flight time does not equal range. True, the Gladiator could stay airborne for longer, but it only had a range of 440 miles. The Spitfire Mk XIV had a range of 850 with drop tanks and about 600 without. The Spitfire Mk I had a range of about 500 miles.
Getting to the fight counts for more than time in the air, in my opinion.
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when the predators caught a whif of the biplane, the fight would come to the biplane
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HT do u want to make a poll like with the Val (I guess it was the Val)?
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My personal preferance list:
I-16 (1939)
Mig-3 (1941)
Yak-1 (1941)
Yak-7B (1941)
Yak-1B (1942)
P-39N (1942)
P-39Q (1943)
LaGG-3 (1943)
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I hope its the Tu-2, I've been waiting for that one since 1.08
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Detailed pics of:
Tu2 (http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/tu2.html)
Lagg-3 (http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/lagg3.html)
Yak 1 (http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/yak1.html)
yak7 (http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/yak7.html)
Mig3 (http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/mig3.html)
i16 (http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/i16.html)
P-39 (http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw/p39.html)
I just posted links for the ones in Kweassa's post but there are heaps more at the same site.
Gatso
Link to the front page (http://www.airwar.ru/other/draw.html)
The WW2 stuff are the 5th 6th and 7th links on that page
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canjun,
Flight time does not equal range. True, the Gladiator could stay airborne for longer, but it only had a range of 440 miles. The Spitfire Mk XIV had a range of 850 with drop tanks and about 600 without. The Spitfire Mk I had a range of about 500 miles.
Getting to the fight counts for more than time in the air, in my opinion.
True, but you are comparing a 1939 (well when the war started, though it had allready been in service a few years) to a late war spit 14, it did actuelly have a longer range then the spitfire I (spit fireI having a range of 395 compared to gladiators 440).
As well as having near twice the firing time of the hurriI and spitI, though it had half the guns, I have also heard Gladiators could carry bombs as well, but not sure if this is true or not.
[EDIT]: Quoted wrong post by accident :)