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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: FTJR on July 09, 2002, 11:43:28 PM
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Just wondering how they determine who gets the kill?
A couple of days ago I shot off the wing of an a20 outboard of this starboard engine. Now IMHO this means he is going to die. So i break off since he is dead. Foolishly I didn't inform my squadmate who races in and starts to fire. Score one or too hits then realises the damage is done and also breaks off.
He got the kill.
Before you serve me cheese to go with my whine I'd like to point out that the reverse has happened in my favour, and the other green guy must be p.....ed
:cool:
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Whoever does the most damage to en enemy aircraft gets the kill, if they're still alive. If the person who did the most is dead, it goes to the person who did the second most, ect, ect.
Damage does not mean most pieces or biggest chunks blown off, it simply means most damage. For example, each bullet has a damage rating, say:
.303 = 5
7.92mm = 6
12.7mm Breda = 25
.50 cal = 33
MG151/20 = 75
Type 99 Mk II = 85
Hispano Mk II = 100
Mk108 = 200
(It is more complicated because the impact speed affects damage amounts)
Say a P-51D and Me262 both attack a Lancaster. A Lancaster can take a lot of damagoe over the entire aircraft, it has a lot of soak. Specific "damage points" (left outer wing, left inner wing, left verticle stablizer, ect, ect) are relatively easy to destroy if you focus on them. Lets say, for the sake of an easy description, that a Lancaster has 30 damage points and each damage point can take 300 points of damage before being destroyed.
The P-51D attacks first and sprays .50 cal fire all over the Lanc, hitting 29 locations once each, only missing the left inner wing location. The Me262 then makes its attack and hits the left inner wing with three Mk108 30mm rounds. The Mk108, in my description, does 200 points per round and the Lancaster's inner wing can take 300 before being destroyed. The Me262 sees the wing come off and the Lanc tumbles down, but he only gets an assist and the P-51D gets the kill.
The Me262 hit with 600 points of damage, but only the 300 points that the Lanc's inner wing could take are counted.
The P-51D hit with 29 .50 cal rounds and each scored him 33 points for a total of 957 points. The P-51D has more than three times the damage in the Lanc, even though the P-51D didn't cause anything to break and thus he gets the kill.
Now, don't think this is a literal description of HTC's system as it isn't. They do neat stuff like have a round's energy affect its damage, calculate armor penetration, ect, ect. This is just a basic, get the gist across, version of how I understand it to work.
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Karnak, are you sure the damage model simply totals the sum of damage points with no regard to individual parts that are hit when awarding kills?
Shouldn't rounds hitting critical componants of the airframe count as "more damaging" to an aircraft than spray and pray rounds that are scattered all over??
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Wow, I think.
Thanks for going to the effort of explaining it.