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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: eskimo2 on July 10, 2002, 04:15:33 PM
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Based mostly on the numbers built, here is what I think we may see soon:
Fighters;
Yak-1 *
Polikarpov I-16 *
P-39 *
Bristol Beaufighter
KI-43
> I think the above would give us all WWII fighters with a production exceeding 5,000
Yak-3
KI-84
KI-27
P-63
> I think the above would give us all WWII fighters with a production exceeding 3,000
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Bombers;
B-24
B-25
Wellington
He-111 *
Tupolev SB-2 or Ilyushin IL-4*
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Attack;
Ju-87 *
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* The six planes that I think we need the most!
What do you think?
eskimo
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Don't forget we'll be seeing new maps. My crystal ball tells me we got a bucket of fried chicken coming as a map, a Taco Bell Burrito map and the Big Mac with Fries map.
As for aircraft, I think we need more Japanese aircraft. I'd like to see a Kate to go with the fun early-war Pac stuff. And a Betty too. I'd also like to see a green P-38 which shouldn't be too hard to modify from the existing model. New texture map for the P-51D and B-17G and hopefully for that Brazilian P-47 (did Brazil participate in WW2?) I'd really like a special F8U Crusader just for me too.
Oh yeah, I try not to think during the day.
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Originally posted by Steven
Don't forget we'll be seeing new maps. My crystal ball tells me we got a bucket of fried chicken coming as a map, a Taco Bell Burrito map and the Big Mac with Fries map.
LOL,
I'd love to see the Kate and Betty too!
Brazil help out the 350th fighter group under US command. They had P-47s, P-40s and a handful of B-25.
eskimo
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Show some love to Burger King... The Whopper map!!! :)
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I have a book by a CCCP ace that shows the following production numbers:
LaGG-3....6528
Yak-7.....6399
...and to be fair, the French didn't have a chance to produce 5,000 Dewoitine D.520s - an interesting plane which, although a bit slower (10 - 20 MPH less) than the Me-109E & Spitfire MkI, could out turn both easily - only 437 produced, but 2320 were ordered
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I always take exception and the use of production nummbers to argue the inclushion of aircraft, it is not realy a good point of departure for an arguement like "it should be added since more were made" I prefer the point that it was revelent because it was the apponit of this plane in this theater, and represented the best of what that country had at the time frame ou are looking at. Take the case of the Ki 84, certainly many many more P 51's were made but it was one of the bet fighters of the war and Certainly one of the most important Japanese Fighters of the war, and withen that time fram their are other clases of planes that were very important and capable planes. Like the Ki 67 one of the best in it's type out of any of the countries in the war and certainly a very important plane for Japan. Now bearing this in mind and looking at what we have now, and not wanting to be reduntant in terms of capabalities( at leaset in term's of everything but fighters), lets consider the above list...
Yak-1 *, A good choice.
Polikarpov I-16 * An excelent Choice A very important plane for the U.S.S.R. and a great plane for AH, very capable and verstile.
P-39 * A popular plane but the above plane are neaded more I think, and we have good Russian plane from this time frame now.
He-111 * A redundant adation we have the JU 88 a much better plane, Any new German Bomber should be late war imo, He 177.
Tupolev SB-2 or Ilyushin IL-4* Il-4 or Pe-2 would be Nice,TU-4 would be Best imo.
Ju-87 * A popular plane and a capable dive bomber.
I realy feal the Italians nead a new toy, and their are at least 3 planes that would be great adations, The Cant Z 1007, MC 200, or a RE 2000 series plane, not to mention a G 55.
The Japanese plane set is so mismatched time wise it is extreamly dificult to creat a well balenced CT set up with it, their are a number of Great late and early war planes that could be included, the Grace, the Frank, the Randy(late war), the Kate, Oscar,Nick, Ki 44(mid to early).
The Russians have some good planes no doubt, but they too are sufering from a mismatvhed plane set and sorely nead a buff, the TU-4 is the way to go here I feal.
The US and Brition and Germany are doing prety good I think, and CV strike plane for England would be nice, and a Stuka or a He 177 for Germany (or a Me 163:) ), would be cool to, the USA well I just cant say they realy nead anything.
A New GV would be nice as well.
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a Taco Bell Burrito map
HTC could replace the sheep with that little dog...
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We got 9 planes in 1.10? Working on that my top 9 working to no particular theatre of war.
Me410
KI84
KI44
Pe2 - (11,427 produced 5x more than the Tu2)
Yak3
P39
B25 - (75mm pleeeeeeease)
B29 - perk
Meteor III - perk
+a perk GV
oops thats 10 ;)
BTW can anyone tell me why the Yak3 was introduced into service later than the Yak7, they run into design/manufacture problems or just weird numbering?
This (http://wio.boom.ru/ww2a.htm) site gives information about just about all the Soviet aircraft of WW2, in english and includes loadouts/year introduced and numbers built for just about everything under the 'Characteristics of Soviet planes' sub heading.
Gatso
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Originally posted by eskimo2
Based mostly on the numbers built, here is what I think we may see soon:
Fighters;
Yak-1 *
Polikarpov I-16 *
P-39 *
Bristol Beaufighter
KI-43
> I think the above would give us all WWII fighters with a production exceeding 5,000
Yak-3
KI-84
KI-27
P-63
> I think the above would give us all WWII fighters with a production exceeding 3,000
............................. ...........
Bombers;
B-24
B-25
Wellington
He-111 *
Tupolev SB-2 or Ilyushin IL-4*
............................. ........
Attack;
Ju-87 *
............................. .......
* The six planes that I think we need the most!
What do you think?
eskimo
Ok, I guess youre all alittle tired of hearing about biplanes :D,
but just have to state, since you have the I-16 why not the I-153?
As it was in full production, and produced at a higher rate than the I-16 mono plane!
Other than that I like the list :D
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My 6 choices would be:
Pe2
Ki84
MiG3
LaGG3
Me410
J2M
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Speaking of Italian a/c:
SM79
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I'll place my top ten most wanted aircraft in here;
1) Ki-84-Ia
2) Ki-44-IIb
3) H8K2
4) Me410
5) Tu-2S
6) Mosquito B.Mk XVI
7) Ju88G-7b
8) Ju188A-2
9) P-39L
10) Firefly Mk I
The Mosquito and Ju88 would be relatively easy to add I think, as there are 3D models to base them on.
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I would choose the following:
P-39D, P-39Q
P-38F
B5N
Ki.44
Ki.84
Ju-87D, Ju-87G
Mossie bomber
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PE-2 would be a tough bird to fly - twin engine & props did not counter-rotate...speaking of which, anyone know the engine rotation scheme of the SM-79?
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whgates3,
Most twin engined aircraft in WWII didn't have counter rotating props.
The only ones I know that did are the P-38 and later Mosquitoes.
In AH only the P-38 has counter rotating props. The fact that no other twin engined aircraft in AH has counter rotating props doesn't make the A-20G, B-26B, Bf110C-4b, Bf110G-2, Boston Mk III, C-47A, Ju88A-4, Ki-67 and Mosquito Mk VI hard to fly. In fact, torque has less of an effect on the twins than it does on single engined fighters.
I would assume that the S.M.79's engines all rotated the same direction, probably to the right.
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wow - all this time I've had a lot better luck flying multi engine planes (& a lot of trouble taxing & taking off in single engine fighters) - mind over matter i guess
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YES! It time for the Brewster (http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=52235&highlight=Brewster) :)
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1) [Ki-43 or Ki-44]
2) [Ki-100 or Ki-84]
3) H8K Emily
4) J2M Jack
:)
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Originally posted by Raubvogel
My 6 choices would be:
Pe2
Ki84
MiG3
LaGG3
Me410
J2M
Add the Stuke and th Ju52 and I 100% agree with ya!
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i would love to bomb from a 3 plane B-29 formation
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Ok, how about this.
1.09 saw the early plane set for the western front.
1.10 saw the early plane set for the pacific war, and the introduction of the new buffs and new strat.
1.11 -the expansion of the ground war and focus on the eastern front?
I'm thinking
Germans
Ju-87 D and G, Hs-129, He-111, Ju-52, Pz V "Panther", StuG IIIG
Soviet
Pe-2, SB-2. I-16, Mig-1, Mig-3, Yak-1, LaGG-3, T-34/76 and/or /85, Su-100
Panther because it is not as hard to kill as the Tiger
Su-100 because it will take out a Panther with a front hit.
T-34 because it is a T-34, no wwii sim would be complete without it.
StuG IIIG because it was a true workhorse for the Germans
Also, 1.11 will probaly see a reworking of the damage model of gv's. <-- essential in my opinion
*keeps fingers crossed and wishes really hard*
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Forgot the Brewster.
If we get the Burger King map, can we get it with cheese?
Masher
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i like hortlunds picks, the PZ V -- T-34 would be a good match up
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Predictions for future AH planes. Okay, not necessarily personal choices but I believe these will be added at some stage:-
He111
He177
He162
Beaufighter Mk.X or Mk.21
Mosquito bomber
P39 (perhaps 2 variants)
P40 Kittyhawk III
B24
B25 (perhaps 2 or 3 variants)
Me410
Hs129
Ju87
Ju188
Meteor
Ju52
Ki100
Ki84
B29
A26
Catalina
Do17
MiG3
Pe2/3
Betty
Me163
P38F
P47N
Spitfire Mk.IXe LF
Whirlwind