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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: DamnedATC on November 07, 2001, 08:12:00 AM
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I just know it will be requested.
Note: I do not support this at all. Just stating the facts
ATC :eek:
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[ 11-07-2001: Message edited by: DamnedATC ]
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One I hope doesn't get taken too seriously. (http://www.theunholytrinity.org/cracks_smileys/otn/funny/bluegrab.gif)
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What was the purpose of the macro in AW ?
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It was INTENDED for mapping several keystrokes to one key. It made it nice for things like flying a B17, one keystroke as you approached target could
1) chop throttle
2) deploy flaps
3) open doors
4) jump to bombsight
HOWEVER... macros became a way of chest thumping when the kiddies learned that they could also make automatically generated radio text on the open channel. This of course resulted in stuff like "Mavrick splashes another... ToPGuNz SqUaDrOn" flooding the radio buffer. Some of them got pretty annoying, some were funny, but thank goodness they weren't used much in the Full Realism arenas.
In all honesty, it's not so different than the victory messages we have in the buffer in AH. Except that HiTech's messages aren't player controlled AND they aren't nearly as annoying :D
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What Alpo said! But it's worse in the "RR" context. Probably best explained by a screen shot whihc I don't have but it's all basically radio blurts like, ""I'm duh man!" "I roxor U!!!" "Choke on my lead and die suckuh!"
Westy
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Depends (hehe). In the RR arena it was an all too common sight in the text buffer. Announcing that one got a kill, usually with some phrase or squad slogan that was considered extremely funny by the author (and others the first dozen or so times if it actually was).
There were a few "legitimate" uses, though, I reckon - dropping troops, navigation, etc.
I would seriously weigh the advantages and disadvantages first. Picture this:
Dweeb: "Crack em! Smack em! Stick em on my shish-ki-bob! KILL! 789th Mega Destroyer Sqwad!"
Dweeb 2: "I phart in your general deerection you EEnglich ka-nig-it! KILL 456th Monkey Humpers!"
Dweeb 3: "Was it good for you? Sure was good for me! KILL! 345th pimple popper unit."
over and over and over
Of course, that's what channel 2+ was designed to avoid. (Then there was the guys who macroed 2. Argh! (http://www.freakygamers.com/smilies/s/contrib/ruinkai/leapfroga.gif)
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Originally posted by Arlo:
(Then there was the guys who macroed 2. Argh! (http://www.freakygamers.com/smilies/s/contrib/ruinkai/leapfroga.gif)
and that is the minute we reverse KILLSHOOTER and frag the bastiche! :D
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Well, from what I've seen from some of the AW crowd and apparently 'tis these RR guys you speak of, this wouldn't be much of a problem here. Seems to me in order to get those kill messages one would have to obtain a kill first? :D
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straffo:
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What was the purpose of the macro in AW ?
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Macros had many uses in AW--being able to fire off many keystrokes with one is just a darn handy thing to be able to do.
But when you say 'Macro' and 'Air Warrior' in the same breath, only one thing comes to the mind of most people, KILL MACROS!
In AW, it wasn't announced 'who' got the kill, instead, you would see:
A Kill has been recorded.
anRky shot down.
in the text buffer if you got the kill, and everyone else would just see:
anRky shot down
so if you wanted everyone else to know you got the kill, you'd need to fire off a kill macro.
I, personally, had nothing against kill macros (as long as they didn't exceed one line), but they were generally frowned upon by most other 'elitist FR snobs'
The best kill macros were used as part of an online persona, and many people fired off kill macros to announce kills for their squad, but mostly they were just a way to stroke your ego.
Since the AH host does the ego-stroking for not only the victor, but the victor's squad, kill macros would be redundant for any of the 'ego-stroking' types.
Now 'Death Macros'! There's an idea. Since AH goes the 'luvy-duvy' route of not announcing to the arena the name of the victim, I think we need to take the job on ourselves!
anRky
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A Thrill has been Recorded!
KILLA IS THE THRILLA!
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.squelch 6
very nice feature
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Bring back Macros to AH!!!
:D
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hmm, it'd be decent for macroing dot commands that you use frequently.
/macro .squelch jerk1 .squelch jerk2 .... .squelch jerkn
I see benefits there. :D
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"Bring back Macros to AH!!!"
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[ 11-07-2001: Message edited by: Arlo ]
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How does that differ from programming macro into your controller?
miko
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Another example.
One day, I had a real life (very bloody) battle with rodentia invading my home.
There was a scenario going on a the time, and I wrote about it in the NG. Later that day we had a frame and when our group dropped ThirdUp out of nowhere shouted "RATS AWAY" on the open channel.
I have never dropped another bomb without that macro going off. :)
In time my CPID evolved from "=B17=" to "Ratbo" and few even *commented* on it because they all knew the background.
So in my case the "dreaded macro" served as a reminder of some pretty funny stuff.
Plus in scenario play, it lets my CO know that the group(s) I am leading reached target and dropped.
-W
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I still think we don't need macros if we have a .tardsquelch option.
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A couple macros I remember best while patroling as a Game OPerator was
"I smoked a Dweeb, but did not inhale"
"Sorry I though you were my Ex-wife"
ATC :)
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If the macro function is added I *REALLY* hope the ability to write macros to say things in radio is disabled.
That was one THE most annoying things in AW.. everyone putting up lame bellybutton brags about a kill
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Krushed!!!!
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I strongly hope AH doesnt allow macros if they can be used to post annoying text messages.
dago
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That's where the squelch feature comes in. In the end AH software can't stop macros as most sticks can get around it by programming a macro in the joystick software.
I don't have to say "Rats Away" when I drop bombs. My MS bomb button does it for me.
-W
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The RR crowd in AW never got any respect.
Therefore AWers who flew mostly RR, like myself, come here to AH to kill and be killed, and smirk to ourselves as these "skilled" FR pilots don't do any better than we "RR dweebs" do. I never had a macro, either.
Why did I fly RR in AW? It was more realistic than AW FR. Sad but true. Even Earl agreed with that.
No matter--we're all one big happy (or is that un-happy?) family now!
J_A_B
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Hate is a *good* think in a game where you kill people. :)
-W
Originally posted by J_A_B:
No matter--we're all one big happy (or is that un-happy?) family now!
J_A_B[/QB]
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Originally posted by DamnedATC:
I just know it will be requested.
ATC :eek:
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:eek:
For you confused Aces Highers, just think of a kill macro as a "Westy post" and you'll get the idea.
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(http://www.corynet.com/faces/avail/images/r_dangerfield.jpeg) ;)
Originally posted by J_A_B:
The RR crowd in AW never got any respect.
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Aces High is that wonderful evolutionary product that has taken the best elements of Air Warrior and Warbirds, left behind the rotten ones, and made a game that's a powerful fusion of the best of all worlds.
Meaning... there's a damn good reasons macros weren't implemented from the beginning. :)
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by Arlo:
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And speaking of no respect! I remember my all time favorite Macro in AW! ;)
"Mayday! Mayday! ArloG is under attack!"
Drano
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I have always used a kill macro - yes, even in FR! - and still do in AW. I think they can be very entertaining and much more interesting than the "SYSTEM: Victory 1 by...." messages! :p
"Killed by a Krait - Hisssssssss!" or "Killed by a Hell God(dess)!" are what I currently use. Hehe.... ;)
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Originally posted by Flossy:
I have always used a kill macro - yes, even in FR! - and still do in AW. I think they can be very entertaining and much more interesting than the "SYSTEM: Victory 1 by...." messages! :p
"Killed by a Krait - Hisssssssss!" or "Killed by a Hell God(dess)!" are what I currently use. Hehe.... ;)
whatever happend to flossed to death :)
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"Mayday! Mayday! ArloG is under attack!"
When id Arlo ever use that? He usually died to quick to use it! :D
Aub
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Originally posted by Krusher:
whatever happend to flossed to death :)
LOL, forgot about that one! Think I got bored with it.... :D
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i personally think that macros would be fun...yet, annoying as well. as i've seen in other replies to this post, if we've got squelch capbility, what would it hurt?
i have to admit, i'm one of the worse ones about using macros in awIII...i had so many, i could hardly type a normal sentence without hitting a programmed key. hehe.
ahhhhhhh, those were the days. :D
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Originally posted by Aub:
When id Arlo ever use that? He usually died to quick to use it! :D
Aub
He was usin it back during my formative years in AW. And yes--that was usually why he was using it! hehe
Drano
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My Squad uses Congrats Macros on Squad Channel.
Victory 1 by GrimmCAF of the Cactus Air Force.
GunrCAF ODM!!!!
Rebul WTG ODM!!!!
Brucifer WTG ODM!
ect.....
Its fun, but doesnt clutter up the radio for anyone outside our squad.
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Now that I know what it is :
my answer is : NO ! :)
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We dont need any of this macros. :p :D
Stop
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If it's worth commenting on, it's damned well worth the effort of *typing* it.
HORRIDO DEM SIEGER, ALLIERTE SCHWEINHUNDE!
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