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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Gman on July 12, 2002, 02:35:13 AM
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What do you think they have planned, if this information is accurate?
Playing for the red team here, what has struck fear into the west not including the actual 9/11 events. School shootings.
It was always topping the news, and hit us where it hurts: Our kids.
Think of what 10 or 20 groups of 4 or 5 guys could do if they attacked schools full of kids simultaneously across the country. It would bring our society to a standstill. People wouldn't let their kids go to school for quite a while, and even if large amounts of police/Guardsmen were mobilized to protect our schools, how could children learn under an umbrella of fear.
I remember when I was about 10, a cult in my hometown had threatened to kidnap children to an informant, and threatened all kinds of crazy crap (My dad was one of the detectives on the case), and they locked all of us in our school with chains and locks on the doors that day (good thing there was no fire). We were terrified, we could see the panic on the teachers faces, and it spread like wildfire. Imagine what would happen if you were a kid again, knew schools had been attacked, and it was covered all over the news. Disruptive would be the very least description I could think of.
I hope I'm wrong. But we are up against a ruthless, capable enemy here who has GOT to be thinking best bang for the buck at the moment. What else could be easier from their point of view?
Everyone seems to be focussing on the "Nuclear power plant" or "Bio/Chem weapons or water supply" type attacks, and forgetting the most basic rules of war. The simplest plan is usually the most effective. It would be no great loss of manpower to Al-Q, and a HUGE kick in the balls for us if they proceeded with this type of attack. Hell, even institutes of higher learning would be a legit target from their point of view, and again, against unarmed and unprepared targets, they would have their way with them untill enough police/military assest could show up and stop them.
With each passing major holiday without a strike, I'm personally getting more and more nervous, to the point of being up at these types of hours thinking about this crap.
Anyone else jittery too?
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Who is going to have the last laugh?
If you Die by the hand of terrorism, you go to heaven, they go to hell.
thats the way I look at it.
CB
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This from the country with metal detectors in its schools and a handgun in every house ?
You boys have more to fear from your fellow Americans than anyone else. Paranoia posts about terrorists around every corner wont help much I suspect. Its one thing to be aware and another to inspire fear.
You have 12 year olds carrying firearms and dealing drugs. How could terrorists possibly top what your doing to yourselves already and seem to accept it as part of everyday life?
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uh...scspook, a terrorist attack against 10 schools at the same time killing hundreds or thousands of kids aged 7-14 is a helluvalot worse than "normal" US crimes.
Heck, I live in Sweden (a pretty safe place) and the thought of such an attack is terrifying even to me. We in the western civilization is perhaps more vunerable through our kids than anyting else. And it is also both plausible and "normal" for a terrorist organization to target kids. If you take a look at the Palestinian suicide bombers in Israel, you will note that they have a tendancy to aim for children and mothers with baby carriages.
Gman has a very valid point, and I for one think he has the right to voice his concerns. Especially when the law agencies in the US has to fight the war against terrorism with both hands tied behind their back thanks to the liberal morons the have over there.
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Ah, I guess my fears roll off of my back everytime I see my 10 month old son's smile. But I feel things will get worse befor ethey get better.
Masher
I agree with you Hortlund (couple times now) lol
How's the weather over there?
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heh, just dont make it a habit ;)
Weather is great over here, you know, its the perfect weather to just sit in a bar and drink cold beer all day long. Sunshine, clearblue skies without a cloud in sight, temperatures around 30C (apparently that is something like 86F), lots of blonde girls walking around with precious little clothes on...
...and me in a suit, stuck in the office, looking out the window at all this.
Oh well...
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I just can't let the Terrorists win the battle they really want. The world "living in fear". I am not beating my chest when I say this: I would have done what the guys did on that Pennsylvania crash. I still would and will, if ever put in that position.
The thing that boggles my mind is the "pure hatred" some of the Palestians, Israelis and these terrorists are RAISED in. I don't understand why people can hate someone they don't even know and have never seen!? I guess we're not supposed too?
Masher
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thy hate us because we are the big daddy israel gets 6 billion a year from to rain destruction on arabs in genral and palistinians in particular. stop supporting isreal like they own us and poof no more terrorists. and we save 6 billion a year to boot. it is that simple and will never happen. isreal does own us.
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I'm curious as to where "school shootings" by terrorists became such a concern. It seems the terrorists have been acting against much more specific targets representing financial and power based institutions... as well as decadent situations.
I cannot see how attacking children at a school would be a major victory in thier attack against the great satan.
AKDejaVu
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Can you see how blowing up two jewish mothers together with their infant children advances the Palestinian cause?
These people do not think the way we do. It is important to remember that. To these people killing civilians to create terror is a goal in itself. Therefore it makes sense to them to target children..because we are more horrified and shocked by that = larger psychological impact = more effective terror attack.
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Sorry Hortlund, but you don't seem to have a clue here.
You are comparing an act of a Palistinian bomber to that of the Al-Queda. Two very different situations and two very different agendas.
In regards to the Al-Queda... what would a mass attack against school children accomplish? Think U.S., Europe and globally.
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There is no job security like security.
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Thanks for the sugarcoating.
Exactly what is your impression of what the Al Quaida agenda is?
A mass attack against schoolchildren would cripple the US. Gman describes it very well in his initial post. One of the effect would be that more liberals citizens would want to back out of this war by caving in to Al Queida demands.
What do you think will happen when the first suicide bombers strike at a Starbucks in Bismarck? Or the first car bomb goes off in Denver? Or a schoolbus in Arkansas? You just wait until Al Quaida gets a suicide bomber program rolling in the US. You will be surprised.
The Al Quaida's primary goal is to remove the US from the middle east equation. Be it support for Israel, or the current Saudi government. They want to achieve this goal by basically scaring the US off. They want to scare the US by using terror. They want the average Joe to think "Is the mid east worth it? No way..screw that"
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bull dinking
they'd still hate us if we nuke Israel tonite
don't you get it, the "meaning of life" for many of them is to hate and kill
if Israel went bye bye this weekend, their attention would go to the next "jewish" state in line - that is us - America
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Originally posted by Eagler
don't you get it, the "meaning of life" for many of them is to hate and kill
This same quote applies to some "Christians."
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No, that is not what I said. I said primary goal is to remove the US from the Mid east equation. This has more to do with internal arab power-games than Israel.
First get the US out of the region.
Then create some Moslem super-state by toppling Saudi and working from there to suck in Iraq, Iran Jordan etc
Then obliternate Israel
then make the rest of the world an islamic state ala Afghanistan.
These guys are the real enemy. More dangerous than communist russia ever was.
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Me and my old man were talking about the forest fire started by that out of work fire fighter. He bet that the al-q were laughing their collective tulips off about that one. Why terrorize the US when they are terrorizing themselves.
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
This same quote applies to some "Christians."
Care to elaborate on exactly what you mean here when you compare Al Quaida terrorists to "some" Christians? Because I for one cannot see any similarities in that at all.
Unless you mean Christian in such a sweeping generalization that you might as well have said "some humans" or "some americans".
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Originally posted by Hortlund
Then obliternate Israel
then make the rest of the world an islamic state ala Afghanistan.
...and what a successful demonstration that has been. The Islamic State of Afghanistan was a catastrophic abortion that wouldn't have lasted nearly as long as it had without U.S. funding.
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Its called hysteria... and its allive and well.
What do you think is a better plan as far as defense goes? A) Respond to every hysterical hypothetical concern that John Wu saturated Americans can come up with. B) Listen to what the Al-Queda is saying... observe what they are doing... listen to what they are planning and preparing for those situations?
Dunno... seems people are once again creating situations and placing "villains" into them. Let's hate the Al-Q even more for what they're going to do to our school children.
I hate them plenty already... no need to start making stuff up.... it has a tendancy to promoty sympathy.
AKDejaVu
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"""israel gets 6 billion a year from to rain destruction on arabs """
what rain was that , i must have missed the weather report
you underestimate the people of the USA, this is a big bad country full of gun toting cowboys and gangsters, the only people who panic at the thought of "terrorists " are the media (they must report 'breaking news' 24/7) and politicians (they must 'do something ' to get reelected )
45,000 americans die each year in auto accidents, can Al Quaida top that?