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Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: FTJR on July 14, 2002, 06:57:19 AM: It costs a lot to use, with the new bombing setup it aint that accurate. SO? who is going to use it?
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: Revvin on July 14, 2002, 08:20:15 AM: You can still bomb with a fair degree of accuracy with the new bomber systems.
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: rosco on July 14, 2002, 08:25:13 AM: Could always jabo in it :)

Oh well, if any plane gets used less im glad its a jet :D
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: osage on July 14, 2002, 08:29:46 AM: Yeah, it's a shame that all it's good for is recon (which was it's main role).

3 Arados could theoretically take out a CV. Problem is it takes 20 mins for it to accelerate to terminal velocity and you're fuel burn sucks under 16K. And who want's to risk 180 perks?

I like slipping under unsuspecting loners, pulling up, leveling and spraying and praying with the rear .20s. Great fun. Got an assist the other day. If you don'd mind getting plastered every now and then.

Anybody managed an A2A guns kill with the Arado?
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: X2Lee on July 14, 2002, 09:17:52 AM: Quote
Originally posted by osage
[/BUh-uh chile, way you shake that thang /
Gon’ make you burn, gon’ make you stang]

Everytime I hear those lyrics it makes me think the guy had VD :D
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: jarbo on July 14, 2002, 09:23:09 AM: So taking up a 3-ship costs 3x60 perks? If so, thats kinda wrong. Should only cost the 1x60 for single or 3-ship.

jarbo
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: Kieran on July 14, 2002, 09:29:30 AM: It ain't a sidewalk sale. Three times the effect for the same cost? Nope.
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: popeye on July 14, 2002, 09:52:36 AM: "Anybody managed an A2A guns kill with the Arado?"

Kilt a 262 with one.
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: Sandman on July 14, 2002, 09:54:52 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Kieran
It ain't a sidewalk sale. Three times the effect for the same cost? Nope.

Not much effect. There are free birds that pack more punch.
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: Kieran on July 14, 2002, 10:15:56 AM: Always were planes that were more effective in terms of firepower. The speed is the issue, and the relative impunity afforded by that luxury. Fact is, three times the ord can be delivered at the same speed. It's still up to the pilot to have the skill to place it.
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: Otto on July 14, 2002, 11:15:41 AM: I always liked to fly the '234' but I doubt I'll do it with the new sytem. The 'cost/benfit' ratio is just too low. Anyway, it's not something I'll lose any sleep over. AH is still the best buy for your money and I'll just save my PP's for a B-29 :)
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: illo on July 14, 2002, 06:45:34 PM: Is Ar 234 dive bomb sight modeled?
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: Fariz on July 14, 2002, 07:24:18 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Kieran
It ain't a sidewalk sale. Three times the effect for the same cost? Nope.

Problem is that effect is not three times, it about 1/3rd. Before arado was a tactical buff, which could knock down strat targets ,like fuel. Now it can get 1 fighter hangar, if accurate. Or couple fuel at most.

Also, 1 arado has more chances to survive. It is like with lancs, prior to 1.10 you could turn it hard not to let anyone to get to your belly, now you just fly, and pray guy is dumb enough to let you gun him.

Arado shall be cheaper, no doubt. Around 15 for a plane.
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: gatso on July 14, 2002, 08:10:27 PM: Quote
Anybody managed an A2A guns kill with the Arado?

Yup

(Thats Slo in his luuurvley 1 winged 262 last tour :D )

Gatso
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: ZeroPing on July 14, 2002, 10:21:35 PM: I will never fly the 234 agian, mainly because i thought all 3 bombers were 60 perks not 3 bombers for each 60 perks... and well i took off and my 234 AI didnt seem to come with me so i said F it... auto climb BOOM BOOM.. lalalala bomb base (sorta) come back and auger on landing.. i ask my squadie "234 are still 60 perks right?" " Yes, each 234 is 60 perks" so uhh watermelon o well
-170 perks for me! :\
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: Karnak on July 14, 2002, 11:34:12 PM: The other problem with 180 point Ar234s is that a nice, well aimed Lancaster strike with 42,000lbs of bombs will get you .26 perk points on landing. That's what happened to me.

Took an Il-2 out and leveled a VH and got 4.5 bomber perks.

Level bombers can't get you any real perks without shooting down fighters. And at that point they're just, well, fighters.

BTW, the 370mph of ladden Ar234s is hardly uninterceptable. There are many free fighters than can chase them down.
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: Turbot on July 14, 2002, 11:53:36 PM: Arado wasnt especially effective even when AH had bombsites.
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: Turbot on July 14, 2002, 11:54:48 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Karnak
The other problem with 180 point Ar234s is that a nice, well aimed Lancaster strike with 42,000lbs of bombs will get you .26 perk points on landing. That's what happened to me.

Took an Il-2 out and leveled a VH and got 4.5 bomber perks.

Level bombers can't get you any real perks without shooting down fighters. And at that point they're just, well, fighters.

BTW, the 370mph of ladden Ar234s is hardly uninterceptable. There are many free fighters than can chase them down.

you would have done much better but the ENY of IL2 was adjusted with patch.
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: SirLoin on July 15, 2002, 02:00:16 AM: I've tried several Arado formation flights.Have to be really carefull not to lose the AI planes.I was on landing approach when they overshot me and both went "Poof!"...:mad:
Title: RIP the arado 234
Post by: mipoikel on July 15, 2002, 02:05:31 AM: Quote
Originally posted by osage

Anybody managed an A2A guns kill with the Arado?

Yep. I killed a goon once!:D