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Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: Skuzzy on July 14, 2002, 08:50:07 AM
Microsoft claims (http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-943111.html) to own the rights to the OpenGL API.

They are not going to be happy until they have absolute control of your computer.  Bastiages!
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: Maverick on July 14, 2002, 10:14:09 AM
Well, you have to admit that MS does have the market cornered on the supply of buggy and error infested OS' in the world.  :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :p
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: AKDejaVu on July 14, 2002, 10:36:19 AM
Time for another anti-trust suit.

AKDejaVu
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: CavemanJ on July 14, 2002, 11:18:37 AM
Sounds to me like Billy-Bob had this planned.  That article says they've been aquiring IP rights and have quite a library of IP stuff.  Why bother getting it if you're not going to use it for something, right?

All about increasing the bottom line (or Billy-Bob's wallet)

I seem to recall a couple/few years back hearing about a memo circulating inside M$ about charging anual subscription fees for using windows.  I admit I was kinda skeptical about that one... but take a look at XP.  'nuff said.

In a rare occurance I agree with DjV, time for another anti-trust suit.
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: Skuzzy on July 14, 2002, 11:50:38 AM
Actually, it is not about the bottom line.  It runs a bit deeper than that.

Consider this; If this holds up, then no other operating system will be able to use 3D vertex based graphics without paying a license fee to Microshaft.  That would kill any chance Linux has of getting into the gaming market.
Apple would be murdered.  This would put the final nail in the coffin for MAC users that like games.

Games companies, in general,  that rely on OpenGL are in for serious trouble.

The vertex is the foundation for all 3D graphics now.  This will be a major blow to the entire 3D graphics market that is not using DX.

Anti-trust suits would do any good.  The government pretty much screwed the pooch on that one already.
Title: Re: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: Kanth on July 14, 2002, 01:00:38 PM
I don't blame Microsoft anymore. I blame the people who keep them in business.

 They don't exist without the countless public  that support them.

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Microsoft claims (http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1104-943111.html) to own the rights to the OpenGL API.

They are not going to be happy until they have absolute control of your computer.  Bastiages!
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: Fishu on July 14, 2002, 03:16:38 PM
Just got to hope MS doesn't get through with this..
Though, everything is possible in US if you have enough money.
Surely wouldn't go through within EU courts in similar case.
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: Skuzzy on July 14, 2002, 03:42:51 PM
There is no doubt in my mind it will go through.  Our government can't even fight MS.  The anti-trust case was a joke and really shows how inept our juducial system is.
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: Skuzzy on July 14, 2002, 03:48:01 PM
Quite right Kanth, and MS knows they got the public by the short hairs,...not that anyone gives a hoot.

And of course, the simple answer will eventually come forward, "What else you gonna do?"  Our typical thought process shines like a beacon to the greedy, power hungry corporations.

I don't belong in this time period.  Where words like ethics, morality, justice, and loyalty are smeared everyday by politicians and huge corporations and people just don't give a damn about anything but themselves.
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: Thrawn on July 14, 2002, 04:02:51 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
Quite right Kanth, and MS knows they got the public by the short hairs,...not that anyone gives a hoot.


Some people do.  :)


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Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: Sandman on July 14, 2002, 04:05:27 PM
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Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: fd ski on July 14, 2002, 05:21:04 PM
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Originally posted by Skuzzy
There is no doubt in my mind it will go through.  Our government can't even fight MS.  The anti-trust case was a joke and really shows how inept our juducial system is.


Let's rephrase that:

how easily our juducial system can be bought.
 :D
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: Kanth on July 14, 2002, 05:37:37 PM
For me the answer is, not buy anything from them.

I'm doing my part, now if everyone else would just get the fek in step.

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Originally posted by Skuzzy
And of course, the simple answer will eventually come forward, "What else you gonna do?"
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: whgates3 on July 15, 2002, 11:01:45 AM
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Originally posted by Kanth
For me the answer is, not buy anything from them.

I'm doing my part, now if everyone else would just get the fek in step.

 


i did you one better - i worked for |\/|$ for 20 months, & while i did so i gave confidential security info & software to "2600" magazine fans, circulated disinformation in the office, bad mouthed our products to customers and stole yellow sticky notes, pens, mouse pads, etc.
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: OZkansas on July 15, 2002, 11:17:28 AM
Looked at XP and don't like it one bit!  Still running 98SE.  When support stops for this OS I will be SOL.  Maybe linux will be the way to go.  Someone will have to introduce a new OS before Gates has us all in his back pocket.  I just can't see the public being fooled by MS to the point where the public is "ball & chained" to MS.  If that happens then maybe it will be time to go computerless.
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: mauser on July 15, 2002, 01:02:06 PM
Way back when ppl were arguing over the mertis of OpenGL and DirectDraw/DirectX, wasn't M$ trying to get everyone on DirectX (unfortunately for the most part they succeeded)?  Now they are trying to take credit for OpenGL???

OpenGL is normally associated with high-end graphics/CAD use, workstations like SGI's, etc.  The way M$ works, if they start to get into that area (The Almighty forbid), they will market by claiming cheaper, equal functionality, and commonality through use of M$ Office.  Somehow, the dumber workstation users will buy into this and end up in denial as their cheaper and equally functional workstations/OS combos bluescreen while rendering something that wouldn't even faze an SGI/Sun/Cray, etc.  

I may start looking more seriously on how to get AH running on Linux...

mauser
(former OS/2 Warp user)
Title: Microshaft, at it again
Post by: Mickey1992 on July 15, 2002, 01:13:24 PM
Microsoft sucks.  Unfortunately I work in a lazy IT department that has the "Screw it, buy Office and be done with it" attitude.  I personally do not buy any of their products and only buy stuff they publish (but do not develop) if I really, really, have to.  (The wife wanted "MS Return of Arcade" really bad.) :D

I think that someday Linux will be in everyone's future, and that's a good thing.