Aces High Bulletin Board
General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: Mathman on July 15, 2002, 02:08:50 AM
-
Despite what happened with my last "serious question" thread, I just gotta ask another:
What makes a plane a "dweeb" plane and/or "easymode"?
-
It always seemed to me that a plane became a 'dweeb plane' when the accuser was outflown by his advesary.
I know that sounds a bit pat, but I've flown the planes that get called dweeb rides and I assure you that they do not make a bad pilot (me) any deadlier.
-
Lack of self-honesty. Anytime anybody is shot down, it is because they screwed up. However if someone has a fragile ego they can always lie to themselves and say: "Well they were in a dweeb plane...."
Hooligan
-
Seriously, you all know what the dweeb rides are. Why the act?
Here, let me spell it out for you:
La7
N1k2
The reason? Insane flight models (note that I'm not saying that the flight models are wrong, Im just saying that they are insane) makes them true point and click -killers. That means that new guys and other types of dweebs migrate to these aircraft to get easy kills.
-
*Snap!* (the sound of Steve74's fingers caught in the trap!).
Spitfires and F6F pilots burn in hell! It is so, because my Staffellkaptein said so! ;)
-
hehehe
Actually I didnt know that the F6F was one of the evil rides, but if Saw says so, then it must be true.
-
"Anytime anybody is shot down, it is because they screwed up."
True, very true.
But some planes are easier to screw up in, and some planes are very easy to recover from a screwup.
-
Originally posted by Hortlund
Seriously, you all know what the dweeb rides are. Why the act?
Here, let me spell it out for you:
La7
N1k2
The reason? Insane flight models (note that I'm not saying that the flight models are wrong, Im just saying that they are insane) makes them true point and click -killers. That means that new guys and other types of dweebs migrate to these aircraft to get easy kills.
Naw, Its any plane you can bug out in at will.
-
If the values are around 10/10, plus or minus a few points, then chances are its a dweeb ride. Examples: Spitfire IX, P-51D, N1K2, and LA-7 to name a few. In short, the planes you're most likely to see on any given flight.
And that's why I fly the P-40E, FM-2, F4U-1, P-51B, and 109-G2.
-
and that's why I fly the Spit IX and P-47 a lot (shot down a LA7 sat. night from 1.2K away {3 witnesses), I lead him and watched him go down, the other 2 chasing him NEVER fired a shot. But, I'm sure it was Luck, I cheated or some other excuse. I have have shot down four F4U-4's in the last month, in a Spit IX.
I'm not a dweeb because I go in the SpitIX (I don't set the altitude record and dive down, rip my wings off), I like the cannon rounds. I like shooting down perk planes with "inferior" planes. I started playing this game four months ago. For a while I was choosing the .303 MG rounds. I actually perfected sinking PT's with just the .303's and a one second tap of the cannon. My squaddies thought I was using the .50's because I racked up 6 straight PT kills and shot down 2 LA7's in succession. When I told them I had the .303's they couldn't believe it. BUT, now I use the .50 cals. Starting out with the .303's (hindsight), was awesome because it trained me use cannon rounds SPARINGLY, and now the .50 are icing on the cake.
It's all in how you use it
Masher
-
how about an arena that has only one type of plane available..no one could gripe about dweeb-rides, as all would be fighting with the same plane. and skill would be the determining factor on who wins.
-
Hawk, if that happened, then a different excuse would appear, and so on, and so on.
Masher
-
The -51D is a far cry from a dweeb ride. The only people who call it a dweeb ride are the ones who can't handle facing a properly flown Pony.
The lame7 and niktard truely are dweeb rides. Thier FM's, which I believe Pyro researched as far as he could and made them as accurate as possible, are as Hortland said, insane. They promote alot of bad habits for noobs, such as 'F16 acm' (always pull to keep nose on target) and thus fly into HOs.
The lame7's only real weakness is the gun package. Hitting anything over 400-450yds is 90% luck 10% skill.
The niktard is the closest to an easy mode plane I think. The niktards can hang on thier prop at 20mph and spray you at 900yds for a kill.
-
Originally posted by hawk220
how about an arena that has only one type of plane available..no one could gripe about dweeb-rides, as all would be fighting with the same plane. and skill would be the determining factor on who wins.
I'm thinking about setting up a "Tuesday Night Jet Fights" H2H arena using the Me-262 only. Any interest?
-
A dweeb plane is whatever an elitist says it is. :)
-
I would say that the dweeb planes are the planes that most tend to fly because of the ease that you can obtain kills in them. In AH I would label the N1k, the LA-7 and the Spit IX as a dweeb plane. But on the other hand everyone pays their 15 frog pelts a month so fly whatever ya want. I do however wonder at times how people don't get bored with flying those planes into big furballs only to eventually get ganged and then repeat the process over and over again. In my book it is more challenging to grab a Jug and try to live through the constant clouds of the a fore mentioned planes to land a few. But then again that's what I like to do with my 15 frog pelts.
Avid
-
a dweeb plane is only created when someone uses a far superior plane to win a 1v1 battle, normally a la-7, spit IX or N1K, perk planes dont fall into this as you have a risk involved and give the opposition a reward if they can win.
eg, an plane is circling you base on his own looking for a 1v1 and you UP a vastly superior plane so you can get an easy kill. - not very sporting you are a dweeb up in a temp and the other guy wont care as theres a nice big perk reward if he can get you.
I would prefer to up an equally matched plane and let the pilot skill decide the outcome even if I died continuously.
At any other time ALL planes have an acceptable use.
I personally fly quite a few different planes but I dont get a kick getting a kill in a LA-7 like I do in a 109 F-4/Ki-61.
I've also noticed (some of my squad are guilty of this) that people dont understand the ENY perk system, if they did they might chose a spit V over the IX or the la-5 over the 7 etc.
realising that they will get more perks for their effort and that a high ENY i.e 40 doesn't necessarily mean its a dog.
There will always be K/D, furballing players who need any advantage they can get so that they can have their type of quick hit fun, but thats their game plan and the spits, la-7's ,N1k's make a sensible plane choice for them if you dont have hours to set up attacks.
Basically theres a plane for everone, fly all planes and learn about their weaknesses and strengths as the enemy you dont know is a more dangerous enemy which leads to the myth of dweeb/uberness planes. :D
just my thoughts :)
-
A dweeb plane is any plane flown by a geek who spends upwards of 40 hrs a month sitting in front of a computer monitor pretending to be a pilot.
In other words, all of them.
F.
-
Admittedly, I am a reformed dweeb. I started out 3 or 4 months ago flying Spits and Nickies just because they were easier to control (never liked the LA7 though). I have since migrated from time to time to the F6F, the 51D and my recent fave the 47D (love that firepower).
As for dweeb planes, I have taken the approach of not tangling with Spits, LA7s or Nickies AT ALL unless I am sure I can kill them on the first pass. Maybe I'm a dweeb for hanging out high over a low furball and blowing through with my hair on fire and all 8 .50s firing (rather than mixing it up on the deck), but, to the extent possible in the MA, I lean towards realism (at least on my part), so I won't furball with such fine aircraft while riding a Pony or Jug.
Question is, if there is a "dweeb" plane that you come up against (and I agree the dweeb title is usually shouted out loudest once you are killed by one), why not adopt your tactics to exploit the Spit, LA7 or Nickies weaknesses?
-
Originally posted by Furious
A dweeb plane is any plane flown by a geek who spends upwards of 40 hrs a month sitting in front of a computer monitor pretending to be a pilot.
In other words, all of them.
F.
Finally, an answer that I can readily agree with. Thanks Fur!
-
Dweeb planes are merely a misconception...they do not exist...however, what does exist in many players, is the innate ability to kid themselves.
EG......
"YOU LUCKY *&%*&#!!!!" "That's the ONLY way you can kill me is flyin that UFO Niki piece of *%^$!!!!"
Seems to me, the reason I get shot down, is due to making poor choices....of course the lack of some ACM skilz might have something to do with this as well...oh yeah, the other fellow might be better than I am?
NO WAY MAN!!!! I AM SPARTICUS!!!!!!
:)