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Title: Truckin
Post by: easymo on July 16, 2002, 11:03:26 PM
In the olden days, when dinosaurs ruled the earth, and before cell phone juggling yuppies discovered Harley-Davidson. We could always count on one guy to follow us on a run, in a chase truck.  Inevitably, with ever increasing amounts of booze being consumed, someone would find themselves exploring a cornfield at high speed. This would lead to the need for the previously mentioned truck, to haul what was left of the bike back home.

 At one point in AH (might have been a different sim, its getting a little fuzzy) you could land near a downed pilot, in a two seater, and pick him up. Now, if it was set up so that when you got a guy back and landed. He got his perk points, or kill messages, whatever. You could be a hero. I think a lot of squads could get a volunteer to drive the "chase truck" if this was implemented. Might add a facet to the game.
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Post by: mcswine on July 16, 2002, 11:12:40 PM
Although I am just a newbie to AH, this IMO is a great idea.:rolleyes:
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Post by: hpilowrider1 on July 16, 2002, 11:36:59 PM
HAHAHH thats so funny! hhaa yeah great idea!
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Post by: -Concho- on July 17, 2002, 12:28:16 AM
problem is i can't get my old lady to fly AH, she usually drives the chase truck for us....   :)
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Post by: john9001 on July 17, 2002, 01:15:48 AM
ahh , you can't fool us, hogs need a chase truck cause they break down so much.
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Post by: easymo on July 17, 2002, 01:18:55 AM
Watch it!
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Post by: Pooh21 on July 17, 2002, 01:53:39 AM
A Fiesler Storch would be perfect for this! Its even got a rear MG to kill Nikis with! I'd fly SAR sorties alot if we had the ability. Dont think it would be to hard to add.
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Post by: Duedel on July 17, 2002, 03:28:40 AM
But i wont wait 1,5 h in a corn field for u rescuing me Pooh :D
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Post by: bikekil on July 17, 2002, 03:28:52 AM
During the BoB Poles were landing his Hurries on the enemy lands just to took a downed friend back home...


It think that a lot of folks here would fly a bird like that to feel the pleasure of helping! It's briliand idea :D
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Post by: metronom on July 17, 2002, 03:32:14 AM
We don't need a new plane for such an idea. There are some two-seaters already in the Planeset what could be used in such a manner.
The SBD, the Val, Me110, or even the GV's could be used for the same purpose.

Sailor
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Post by: LoGo on July 17, 2002, 04:53:58 AM
easymo your a legend... what an EXCELLENT idea :)
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Post by: Central on July 17, 2002, 05:04:55 AM
Only problem there is now youll get more squads like the FDBs shooting down any and all chutes they see :D :D
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Post by: VWE001 on July 17, 2002, 08:48:51 AM
Hey, what do dogs and Harleys have in common? They both like to mark there spots where ever they go!

You know the really great thing about owning a Harley? If ever you need parts for the engine you can just go down to your local Briggs-n-Stratton dealer!
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Post by: hawk220 on July 17, 2002, 09:45:00 AM
it would certainly add value to virtual life in AH. and would probably change some people's tactics when fighting..tho, like Central said, there would be those who got off hunting downed players to saw in half with their cannons.
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Post by: Masherbrum on July 17, 2002, 09:56:08 AM
Duedel sure you could, take a LARGE flask with you.

Masher
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Post by: Dux on July 17, 2002, 09:59:26 AM
This has been brought up many times before, but it's good to kick it up every once in a while... it's a great idea.

Feissler Storch, Lysanders, PBYs, Kingfishers, C-47s, Hoverfly, PT boats, M3... so many great possibilities. Give points for pilots rescued. If a perk pilot gets shot down, he can wait for rescue... pilot gets half of lost perks back, rescue pilot gets other half.
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Post by: Sabre on July 17, 2002, 10:36:29 AM
Many many moons ago, the Buccs did a mission that involved a SAR scenario.  One of our guys, Buhdman, bailed out on purpose near an enemy VH.  Another Buccaneer took a TBM, while the rest of us took P-38's.  The plane was to swoop in and kill the VH, then CAP the area while the TBM landed and "rescued" Buhdman.  The only downside was, that Buhdman had to .ef before he could join the TBM pilot's crew, but it was fun to simulate anyway.  I'd love to see this kind of capability, where the downed pilot got to keep his perks if rescued, while the rescuing pilot would get a big perk bonus.

During the original Tour of Duty, we had a guy (Greybeard, I think) get shot down.  I had created and run the TOD (not the same as the TOD of today, which is squad based), so I was CM'ing.  If you got shot down in a TOD mission, you could no longer fly TOD missions (though you could volunteer for the OPFOR), and Greybeard was just one mission shy of completing the requesit five mission in a row when he was shot down.  His team mates asked me if they could attempt to rescue him, so that he could continue flying the current TOD, so I said "sure."  

He walked for about 45 minutes to get far enough away from an enemy base for the goon to attempt to land next to him and "pick him up."  The rescue goon would then have to fly him safely back to friendly territory.  Unfortunately, while the goon was only a minute or two out, someone upped a fighter from that nearby base, spotted him on the ground, and strafed him.  Even though it was heartbreaking that Grey was KIA, everyone enjoyed the immersion of trying to save him.  Because the stakes were relatively high (i.e. if rescued he could continue flying in the remaining TOD missions), it really made it more real for everyone envolved.
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Post by: Arfann on July 17, 2002, 10:39:42 AM
My squaddies (Buccaneers) proposed this idea many moons ago. We even spent some squad nights simulating this kind of mission. One pilot would fly deep into enemy territory and either ditch or bail. We would then escort a goonie or two to attempt a rescue. Besides the inherent entertainment value, it kept the enemy country wondering  WTF was happening!
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Post by: Arfann on July 17, 2002, 10:40:54 AM
Darn, Sabre, ya beat me to it!  :confused:
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Post by: Taiaha on July 17, 2002, 10:47:01 AM
I love this idea (always liked the idea of maybe down the road flying a Catalina to do this), and loathe as I am to toss cold water. . .

. . .it probably won't work in the MA.  The main reason being that in the MA most people are shot down in the middle of, or on the margins of, large furballs.  Its suicide to bring a goon into that environment half the time, let alone a rescue ship.

That said, I could definitely see this being on the cards for TOD or scenarios, maybe even the CT depending.

So if you ever need a Catalina pilot. . .

Oh, wait, we have to have a Catalina first.:(
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Post by: muckmaw on July 17, 2002, 11:15:23 AM
I love this idea. We could use the current plane set. Ever heard of the Goon?

Great for rough landings, short takeoff distance. But to be fair, lets make it so a rescue pilot gets X perks for pulling in the hero.
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Post by: Bonden on July 17, 2002, 12:29:23 PM
Im all for it  :)

Bonden
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Post by: Pooh21 on July 18, 2002, 02:00:33 AM
The Storch pilot would have a large flask with him, mmm weizenkorn.
It can go 100 mph you wouldnt have to wait that long. Now if you add the Storch you can also add Artillery!!! Imagine floating around in that little plane calling in arty on those yellow/green crunchies!
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Post by: wolf37 on July 18, 2002, 02:10:35 AM
Can I add a taxi meter to my plane, might as well make a buck at it. :D
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Post by: sling322 on July 18, 2002, 01:07:36 PM
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Originally posted by hawk220
it would certainly add value to virtual life in AH. and would probably change some people's tactics when fighting..tho, like Central said, there would be those who got off hunting downed players to saw in half with their cannons.


Nah...we wouldnt do that.  Squad doctrine dictates that you only use machine guns on chutes.  You save the cannon rounds for aircraft.   :D
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Post by: Innominate on July 18, 2002, 01:43:45 PM
great idea.

It'd also be cool if vehicle supplies could repair/rearm aircraft too.  Get m3's setting up makeshift air-fields to support attacks!
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Post by: Falcon on July 18, 2002, 04:17:25 PM
This'll be very cool if HTC puts in the FPS idea HT talked about in a interview. Imagine you need to sneak out to be rescue. Like in the movie BAT-21.

You'll be only armed with your 45 and have a radio. Yeah, this'll be very cool indeed.

Falcon
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Post by: BigGun on July 18, 2002, 05:52:46 PM
All the more reason to shoot the chutes of the ripcord pullin weenies!!!!!
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Post by: udet on July 18, 2002, 09:22:13 PM
I like this idea, but I don't see it implemented in MA any time soon.
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Post by: Obear1971 on July 19, 2002, 06:26:45 AM
Great idea, in fact that is what im waiting for to be implimented into WWIIonline.

I think that AH would have to make chutes impervious to gun fire or it will be very frustrating when pilots start shooting chutes.

At the moment as shooting a chute gtes the pilot nothing and the downed pilot cant really do much but return to tower, the honor system thast obeyed by 99% of the comunity in NOT shooting chutes works well.

If a doned pilot can be rescued and take up gunnery positions in 2 or more seater aircraft we may see this honor system go out the window, and that whould be bad for everyone who actually bails out.

Once your in the rescueing aircraft your fair meat.

Great idea, please insert this in 1.11 :D
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Post by: easymo on July 19, 2002, 12:51:58 PM
The only things I think would be needed, would be a compass for the downed pilot. So he could be directed to a clearing(lots of trees in some spots. Hard to land}. Ad a PBY, or some such, for water rescue.

 As far as strafing them on the ground. What the hell, let um find out what its like to be a grunt:)