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Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: wooty on July 20, 2002, 01:40:13 AM
the first thing i find unattractive is the fact that any country can fly any plane.

Im sorry but P-51s were NOT made to fight P-51s and 109s were NOT made to fight 109s.

The one thing I liked about warbirds, is the RPS.  

It actually requires skill and not half the arena using dweeb planes.

I enjoyed flying the spit 1 but when a D9 decides to play, you dont stand a chance unless the D9 pilot is a moron.

Sure theres a CT, but no one has the balls to play in it.  Oh well.




The graphics are good, for 1997.

This is 2002.  I suggest at least supporting directX 6.  Hiring some people who know how to code DX8 would be a good idea.  The cockpits are absolutly horrible.  I think i can count the polys on my fingers.

The plane models themselves could also use alot better texturing effects(bump mapping, look it up) and just simply better models.

Stop catering to the voodoo2/450mhz P2 users and realize that most everyone has at least a geforce 1 or equivilent and anyone that doesnt should probaly upgrade and if they cant afford, well, welcome the the world of PC gaming, i suggest buying a console or something.  Maybe get a part-time job.


Sound effects, again, good for 1997.  Doppler sound would be really great.  So would convincing sounds effects.


Flight Model, needs work.  I suggest adding physics.  I guess that would requre more than a 450mhz CPU tho, oh well.

Ballistics.  As much as WWIIOL sickens me the one thing thats great about it is that each and every bullet is accuratly modeled as is penetration.  Hit boxes should have died by now.  Oh, I also suggest that HTC watch some WWII aerial combat videos for once and get rid of these lines people are calling "tracers".   While you are at it, research exactly what a tracer round is.


Gameplay, is well, it could be better, more dramatic or better yet, fun and enjoyable and not a chore.  That would require effort and change i guess.

 


Community, seems to be mainly people who think they are superior to people who play, for example, FPS games.  Its pretty annoying, this elitism.  Ironically, this is nothing but Quake.  Lots a HO pilots out there.  Im glad i know how to avoid them.  The in game maturity level seems pretty low though, especially for a bunch of elitists that make fun of people who play FPS games, how ironic.

Overall, I think HTC needs to get with the times and stop cattering to the top end machines of 1997.


eh, at least i didnt have to pay for this, im out.

oh lemme guess, dont let the door hit me in the ass, hit me where the good lord split me, etc etc etc

Wake up people.  This isnt 97 anymore, get with the times, thanks.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Yeager on July 20, 2002, 01:46:20 AM
Sounds like this isnt the place for you.  Oh well, have fun.... wherever you end up.

Perhaps in time you will mature to the point where you will come to understand that AH is a business and the attractiveness of a platform as CPU and Graphics Card inclusive as AH draws far more people for reasons you already seem to understand but do not yet grasp.  And oh yeah, dont forget to have fun, elitist snot dweeb.

Buh bye :)
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: wooty on July 20, 2002, 01:50:44 AM
or better yet, HTC could mature to the point of at least making it look better, i mean god forbid someone have to get rid of their voodoo2.


meh
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: XNachoX on July 20, 2002, 01:52:29 AM
While you're on the way out.  Please be useful.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Karnak on July 20, 2002, 01:55:25 AM
For someone who gets irritated by elitism, you sure are arrogant.

AH currently requires DirectX 7.

:rolleyes: is the only response to the FM whine, especially from somebody using "MushBirds" as their ruler.

Graphics, well, they may not be top line they range from serviceable in the old stuff to good in the new stuff.  At least you can see them, unlike WB.  HiTech adds new features to the engine and has stated that bumb mapping is on the "to do" list.  AH does not support Voodoo2s as it requires a 16mb video card.

AH has doppler sound effects.

AH models every bullet and penetration.  Too badd WWIIOL doesn't model damage in any way whatsoever, even to the point of not being able to see strikes on the enemy aircraft.  Visually WWIIOL's damage modeling is very much the same as the 1989 game Their Finest Hour.

Cockpits are bland, no denying it.  At least they're readable, unlike WB.

WB population on a Friday evening in the US is what, 100?  150?  Boy, Axis vs. Allies sure seems like a great way to set up an MA.
The everything vs. everything might not be the most enjoyable for many os us (me included), but it does bring in a lot more players.  Given that HTC is a business they need players.  I do wish the CT would see heavier usage, but I have no qualms about the MA remaining a free for all.

Have fun.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: bloodstain on July 20, 2002, 02:00:55 AM
If you can count the polys in your cockpit then you either need to update your commadore 64, or get a better video card. I can assure you while the graphics aren't the"best" they sure aren't lacking in anyway! Plus it is a buisiness and HT works hard to keep it running and running smoothly. If you think it is that bad then don't let the door hit you where the good lord split ya!:D
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on July 20, 2002, 02:02:54 AM
What a love muffin review i bet u gonna be gossip journalist

when ur old enough
Title: Graphics??????
Post by: poppysead on July 20, 2002, 03:51:05 AM
Hey I gotta idea, do anything you want to this game, step up the graphics, but if you do PLEASE leave us guys with 56k modems some lower resolutions, I have enough to worry about without not being able to see because im skskskskipping, and the guy in front of me is flying at 1000 ias cause my puter is crapping out.
While im at it Id like to thank the desighners, version 1.08 ran very slow for me online, somehow with the release of 1.09 my online problems virtualy dassapeard, only rarely now does an enemy warp 50 miles across my screen. I dont know what you did but thanx. NIGHt!!!1
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: john9001 on July 20, 2002, 03:52:04 AM
<< slaps wooty upside da head wit a dead mackerel>>...SLAP
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: beet1e on July 20, 2002, 04:20:07 AM
Admittedly this game engenders arcade play - something I struggle to come to terms with. As for making high end graphics cards/processors a prerequisite, That was a VERY BAD MISTAKE that iEN made. Look at them now. The PEAK attendance in WB is only about the same as the LOWEST attendance in AH.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Leslie on July 20, 2002, 05:43:23 AM
Quote
Originally posted by XNachoX
While you're on the way out.  Please be useful.


ROTFLMAO!!!:D
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Samm on July 20, 2002, 05:43:41 AM
Yet another who would rather play in MA and whine about the unrealistic plane matchups than play in the CT . Somebody who doesn't know why wwII tracers drew white lines in the air is going to tell us why AH is so unrealistic  :rolleyes:
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: SirLoin on July 20, 2002, 08:05:58 AM
That's dispicable nacho...Does it come with a bottle of Mop N' Glow?..:D
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: sax on July 20, 2002, 08:17:30 AM
Who asked for an opinion here.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: hawk220 on July 20, 2002, 08:25:20 AM
now now.. be nicer to wooty.. one day his other ball with drop and he will start High School.. and learn a few tools for communicating in a group.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: IFF52nd on July 20, 2002, 08:25:46 AM
All things considered, I have a blast flying AH.  It's challenging and fun for me. If it wasn't, I wouldn't be subscribing. Simple.  I think the AH staff has done a great job in presenting an online WWII flight sim.  The only irritating thing for me is, just when I think I'm getting good I get my prettythang kicked royally by one of the vets here.:p
Salute AH and all the pilots!
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: lazs2 on July 20, 2002, 08:32:27 AM
A lot of us find allied vs axis just too easy and boring.  We enjoy the challenge of fighting with and against an infinite variety rather than learning the one or two possible moves a 109 might make.

Sounds like WB is the game for you.  
lazs
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: ygsmilo on July 20, 2002, 08:37:45 AM
Whats he gonna do when,,,,not if,,,,they flush warbirds.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Blank on July 20, 2002, 08:45:35 AM
judging  by your other post wooty, you haven't even had you 2 weeks yet and your trying to tell me that you know everthing about the gameplay?

Ok you've been on every map, including the AK Desert and sampled the differences that they bring.
You have also obviously mastered Bombing and have with your Squad that you joind been out on cooperative fighter sweeps, buff hunts, base captures and defense, Tank battles, JABO missions and on and on..

You've then use your finely honed skills to participate in the TOD, WW, races, and other specialty events, oh and dont forget the upcoming Battle of Britain (wont be seeing any Niki dweebs in there).
Come on mate you haven't even scratched the surface of what this community has to offer, If your willing to look/ help.

I find the maturity level not bad at all. the only thing you can hold against some of the guys/girls is that they can take offence easily if you slate the game, as we ALL (on the whole) care for this game/community and will jump to its defence.

The HTC guys (a very small team) own, run and CARE for the game and thats important and thay strive for improvement.

or you can go play with EA.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: KG45 on July 20, 2002, 08:58:19 AM
Ciao. and good luck. really.

and when you find a game with better armor, naval, air to air, jabo and level bombing action, and better plane set and weapons, and better community and responsive ownership, more arenas and maps, free H2H, all in one game, please be sure and drop us a note won't you?

thanks!
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: LoGo on July 20, 2002, 09:05:03 AM
my god! wooty, your right! what have I been doing?! I've been wasting my life! how could I have been so blind?!


:rolleyes:
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Vermillion on July 20, 2002, 09:24:07 AM
You know... you've convinced me of my stupidity.

I'm immediately going to cancel my AH account, and go directly to the iEN website, to sign up.

Jeez what was I thinking.  Flying with 500 people last night, when I could have been flying with 70 or 80 and paying twice as much.

Oh my wasted opportunities.  The shame.  The Shame. ;)

Twit!
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: -EnVY- on July 20, 2002, 09:42:49 AM
All you dolts ever cry about is how many more people play prettythanges High than PoopBirds...BLAH BLAH BLAH. DO you know how many thousands of people play Quake? Guess not...if you did you wouldn't be defending yourselves like a bunch of mulesucking freaks...and you'd realize that the amount of attendance does not make a better product always. Look at every crappy "blockbuster" hit movie. 9 out of 10 absolutely stink. I'd rather chew razor blades than see another Hollywood abomination that was made for the sake of making people stupid and making stupid people money. So go play your Hollywood game and enjoy it Dummies.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Kieran on July 20, 2002, 09:44:03 AM
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Ballistics. As much as WWIIOL sickens me the one thing thats great about it is that each and every bullet is accuratly modeled as is penetration.


This is not true. You can park a tank behind a 109 and pour your mg into both ailerons, and that sucker will take off and circle the field like nothing happened. The way the WWIIOL damage model works is this: if a round doesn't penetrate deep enough to damage anything, it is forgotten. That's right, totally forgotten. Effect? No cumulative damage. Either your bullet hits something vital or it doesn't. Allied pilots are having a blast over there trying to kill 109s, which have exactly three places where it is possible to kill it- pilot, fuel tank, or engine. That sounds ok, until you realize the engine will not seize for half an hour or so after taking critical damage, and the fuel is virtually limitless. So, hitting the fuel tanks (assuming they don't flame, which they usually don't) makes airshow smoke, as does hitting the engine. This leaves you with hitting the pilot, and this is not easy to do. CRS maintains this is accurate, and the air war there is becoming more deserted every day.

Try harder.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Creamo on July 20, 2002, 09:51:07 AM
Quote
Originally posted by -EnVY-
All you dolts ever cry about is how many more people play prettythanges High than PoopBirds...BLAH BLAH BLAH. DO you know how many thousands of people play Quake? Guess not...if you did you wouldn't be defending yourselves like a bunch of mulesucking freaks...and you'd realize that the amount of attendance does not make a better product always. Look at every crappy "blockbuster" hit movie. 9 out of 10 absolutely stink. I'd rather chew razor blades than see another Hollywood abomination that was made for the sake of making people stupid and making stupid people money. So go play your Hollywood game and enjoy it Dummies.


lol, oustanding rant. That was beautiful...
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: LoGo on July 20, 2002, 09:53:09 AM
EnVY.... read my last reply

:p
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Yeager on July 20, 2002, 10:06:46 AM
Uh oh......looks like the inmates have escaped.  Temporarily ;)
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Wilbus on July 20, 2002, 10:08:40 AM
We ARE superior to people who play FPS games.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Grimm on July 20, 2002, 10:16:22 AM
::Sniffs the Bait and moves along::
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Staga on July 20, 2002, 10:18:53 AM
EnVy in another thread:
Quote
Originally posted by -EnVY-
So the gunnery in AH is like swatting a fly with a phoenix missile, every plane ha sthe moves of a spit regardless of RL flight characteristics, there's no mac support, and there's a flippin pizza for a map. Sounds like fun, if you're into nonsensical QUAKENERDFREAKNMUNDANEOVERKIL LARCADECRAP! Let's hear it...what's so great about numbers when EVERYBODY can turn on a dime and has weightless howitzers killing anything with two pings from a mile away?
It stinks and i don't like IT.


I specially liked parts "every plane ha sthe moves of a spit regardless of RL flight characteristics" and "there's no mac support"...

hmm who could that be??  :)
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Yeager on July 20, 2002, 10:26:25 AM
hmm who could that be??
====
Lol...narrows it down to about 90 people (the entire iEN subscription audience).

What a shame  LMAO :)
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: AKDejaVu on July 20, 2002, 10:29:30 AM
Well.. at least when someone trolls like this on the AGW board... they do it under their real handle.  I wonder how many aliases the AGW folk have over here.  hmmmm
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: CDR Akira on July 20, 2002, 10:38:47 AM
Actually, I am in really bad shape financially.
I pay money to my ex-wife as part of our divorce settlement,
among other bills...

I just had no choice but to make you pay for lunch the other day. I'm really sorry.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: CDR Akira on July 20, 2002, 10:50:25 AM
Okay enough of that crack and alcohol
(hangover and alttitude loss kicks in)

Damn,that stuff will diddly up your mind

HeHe Just kidding

DON'T DO DRUGS!!!

all quotes are registered quotes of Metal Gear Solid 2
Metal Gear Solid 2,MGS2,andCol.Roy Cambell are registered trademarks of Konami Japan Ink.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Löwe on July 20, 2002, 11:00:37 AM
Wow, what a rant. Never ceases to amaze me, how people will rant and belittle others for doing something they don't want to do. If you don't like AH................ Don't play it, who cares? However posting a big stinking heap on the people that do, says your lacking in maturity or, maybe mommy didn't pay enough attention to you as a small child.
I am waiting for the day somebody post. "Tried it, didnt care for it, back to WB's for me." Now that would be a suprise.
Wooty go back to WB's, and good luck to you. However when you try to run down AH, and sing the praises of WB's to this crowd, your wasting your breath, the number of ex-WB's players in here is very large. I flew Warbirds from 1996 to last November, it had it's time, and I had fun. However AH is a better product IMO. You should have given CT a chance, thats where I fly, and I am having a blast. I am in your camp on one issue, I dont like each country having  each aircraft available myself. The biggest reason is I don't have the skills to fight every plane on the menu at one time. However I admit to it, and fly CT where for me I enjoy the action. Running down the MA community is not going to help me, and doing so would be childish. Thats why I can't understand your need to throw a turd in AH's direction. If you don't like it no biggie, your not out anything. As far as elitest..................
Lets see that would be somone who thinks their superior, for some reason or other, wouldnt it? Well your remarks about how AH needs to upgrade , and quit catering to the 1997 top end machines is interesting. Is that you being elitest because you have a big brand new machine? Or are you just whimpering little wuss cake who crawled in the shark tank that is Aces High's Main Arena, and got your nads bit off?
:rolleyes:
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: moose on July 20, 2002, 11:01:13 AM
dick.

must be a slow day on AGW, eh MG?
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: cajun on July 20, 2002, 11:26:29 AM
"Ballistics. As much as WWIIOL sickens me the one thing thats great about it is that each and every bullet is accuratly modeled as is penetration. Hit boxes should have died by now. Oh, I also suggest that HTC watch some WWII aerial combat videos for once and get rid of these lines people are calling "tracers". While you are at it, research exactly what a tracer round is. "

Actuelly I have seen MANY films that have those kind of tracers, infact most all of them do!  They may be harder to make out in some films but they are there.

AH flight model is also the most realistic I have ever come across... and for realistic match ups I suggest you play in the CT, TOD,Scenarios etc (Even though the CT doesnt have allot of people, it makes no differance, I have had Very good fights with only 10 or so ppl that I could only dream of in the MA, and the more You play there the more Others will play there, cuz the main thing that keeps people from joining is they see that there arent many people, but if you don't join, no 1 else will!, I strongly suggest you give CT a try.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: majic on July 20, 2002, 12:06:21 PM
Geez guys, I know we haven't had too many effective trollers here lately, but this one is obvious...
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: SunKing on July 20, 2002, 12:19:04 PM
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All you dolts ever cry about is how many more people play prettythanges High than PoopBirds...BLAH BLAH BLAH. DO you know how many thousands of people play Quake? Guess not...if you did you wouldn't be defending yourselves like a bunch of mulesucking freaks...and you'd realize that the amount of attendance does not make a better product always. Look at every crappy "blockbuster" hit movie. 9 out of 10 absolutely stink. I'd rather chew razor blades than see another Hollywood abomination that was made for the sake of making people stupid and making stupid people money. So go play your Hollywood game and enjoy it Dummies.


He does have a way with words. I look forward to his next rant.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: J_A_B on July 20, 2002, 12:31:13 PM
"Admittedly this game engenders arcade play - something I struggle to come to terms with. "

Perhaps you've forgotten what an arcade game is, but AH does not resemble an arcade game in any way, shape or form.   Your use of the term "arcade play" is apparently at attempt to "label" parts of the game you don't like, rather than being based on fact.

Once AH gets rid of physics, starts using mid-air powerups, lets fighters carry unlimited numbers of bombs, and does away with pesky things like cockpits, THEN AH will resemble an arcade game  ;)

J_A_B
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: JoeDirt on July 20, 2002, 12:39:27 PM
heh
Title: Mr or Mrs or what ever wooty
Post by: SPIKER on July 20, 2002, 01:05:55 PM
Just ck ur stats.  Did u even play the game?  With 0 across the board, I dont see where u were able to form an opion even about the fuel options.  

CYA
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: -pjk-- on July 20, 2002, 01:37:25 PM
Hiya  lowe!!.-)

Long time, since i have seen/read  from you.  
I have had  AH account for  some time now and still use it .
Ranting/writing BS posts about  1 game agaisnt  another is vaist of time IMHO.

Whatever you "think" about another game...give at least 40 hours online before make any decissions.

I  gave it to AH, still have active account, but my soul still is  in the "other" game.

I do not need to comment/gave my "right" opininons about whichone is better, if you like AH better it is OK, who cares, same to  other game.Use only your own perspective and enjoy.
These are really cheap nowadays, i used to burn lot more money/month , than today 1 year having 3 onlinegames active accounts/year

pjk
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Yeager on July 20, 2002, 01:37:53 PM
Porbably not his in game ID spiker.  Im freely assuming he wont reveal the ID he used as it would embarrass him.

I played WBs for three years and almost a year after the two big dogs split the scene to stay in texas.  The game was already starting to fragement and needless to say I was purely overjoyed the day HTC formation was announced to the world.  Been here since day one open beta and have never really concidered going back to WBs.

Tried WBs 3 and it was a powerful system hog, the cockpits were to my disliking and I just didnt have any faith in the crew at iEN to make timley, meaningful and inspiring upgrades.  Seems I was mostly right.
Title: RGR Yeager
Post by: SPIKER on July 20, 2002, 03:28:41 PM
Just didn't like the kick in the foot.

Tks.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: wooty on July 20, 2002, 03:33:44 PM
Well i was right about the immaturity around these parts.  A few of you though can take constructive critiscim like an adult, the rest seem to find in amusement by saying im a high schooler or something, that doesnt really make sense to be but ah well, some people just arent creative.

Tracers: When i say lines i mean how the are rendered.  They are just simple 2D lines.  They arent smoke.  Again, while WWIIOL sickens me with its current state, they have the tracers down very well in my opinion.  If only flying werent a slideshow and i didnt have to be 100feet away to see someone, eh.

I guess what hurts me most about AH is that everyone says its the best online flightsim out there.  I admidt, it is.  

That doesnt mean its great.  To make an analogy some of you immature types might understand, its the least smelly pile of crap out of several piles of crap, but crap is still crap.

Dont get me wrong, i dont think AH is crap, I just think that HTC is holding themselves back.

I CRS  for having the balls to do what they are doing.  I wish HTC would have the balls to move on and get with the times.

Im not asking for a complete DX9 feature setup, but come one, Janes WWII Fighters looks hella better then this.

To me really, its the little things that count.  I.E Id like to see shells falling from the planes when i fire my guns.  

Another thing I think would be really great would be to model overheating.

In this game, notice i typed game and not sim, you can fire every 50 cal round and nothing happens.

Now, go fire a real Browning M2 straight for say, just 200 rounds for one long burst and tell me what happens.



I guess being a small company, money could be an issue and I respect that.  

In the end though, I guess im just spoiled by Sims, notice i typed sim(s) and not games(s) as i did earlier, such as IL-2.  

It looks great, feels great and plays great.  Altho Im only VFR and have never flown anything outside of 182s, IL-2 just feels like Im flying.  AH does a pretty good job but still I know HTC can do better.


Oh, and i dont know where some of you got the idea that i like WB, ehk.

Peace.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Kieran on July 20, 2002, 03:45:05 PM
You know, I have never understood the envy so many have for the collective Rats' balls. ;)

Seriously, no one has a gun to your head. This game is like it is out of choice, and it is apparently successful. Many of the things you suggest haven't helped other sims much, have they? I disagree with you wholeheartedly about WWIIOL, too. It has good points, but the warts are still hideous.

First priority in an MMOG is to be fun, next is playable, next is looks.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: wooty on July 20, 2002, 03:52:09 PM
"First priority in an MMOG is to be fun, next is playable, next is looks."


Eh, if thats the case we got a LONG way to go but thats just my opinion and if you(you  being a generalzation, not you directly Kieran) cant handle MY opinion then you should not be reading this forum.  Thats what it is for, public opinion in order to have our opinions.

But hey I could be wrong, HTC may not care about its customers, but despite the fact this does in fact feel like something from 97, it does have heart.

I jsut wish they could get funding somehow to make it better.

oh well.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Kieran on July 20, 2002, 03:56:32 PM
Hey, you stated your opinion, I gave my opinion. Exchange of opinions, public forum? :D

No way do I think you have to like this game, or hate it or whatever. You do or don't. I think the thing that is a bit abrasive about your post is you seem to indicate a belief that things would be different if HTC was more on the ball. You discount it was a business choice. You have taken the part of the consultant; you know, those fellows that show up and tell you how your successful business isn't and what needs to be done to make it successful (all for a fee). I will give you the benefit of the doubt, though, you didn't ask for money. ;)
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Löwe on July 20, 2002, 04:16:22 PM
HELLO -pjk--!

You still the 109F Expertan you were in the old days?
Good to see you old friend . :)
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Gman on July 20, 2002, 06:42:00 PM
What are you reffering to in regards to the .50's? The lack of empty shell casing flying out?  From a pilots position in the cockpit he'd never see empty casings coming from his on aircraft if he was looking at his target, and very rarely from a target or wingmans, unless he was VERY close, ie under a few hundred yards, and even then, it would likely be only reflections off the brass.

As for tracers, I'll respectfully disagree with you.  I have 4 .50's in inventory, and have owned 2 different semi auto (legal in Canada) M2's, and a half dozen .50 rifles, and 60% of the ammo I have run through them is tracer, mainly as a crowd pleaser.  This combined with the 5,000 or so odd other types of tracer I shoot every year gives me ample experience in judging what looks right and what doesn't, and I think AH looks fine, for a game.

WW2offline certainly doesn't look any better.

As for the flight model typical attack that everyone uses on each others fav games/sims, I've only got 40 hours in on my VFR license, but lots of other guys like Toad and Andy bush with tens of thousands of hours between them have made comments each way and the other, and I'll listen to them before I listen to anyone else.

I think the numbers speak for themselves, more people play AH even with all these supposed faults you give it than WB3 by a factor of 20.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Toad on July 20, 2002, 09:47:36 PM
Barely a 5.

Nothing new, no really well turned phrases and the same old accusations hurled out at those who dare to disagree, even politely.

Bah. We've seen much better.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: brendo on July 21, 2002, 07:56:40 PM
Well, as a new AH subscriber, who floated around WB for many years.....(I'm going to a mini-con of hardcore WBIII guys next weekend - what happens when I bring out Aces High?)....

I must admit that the graphics engine in AH is definately old generation. Things can be old school at times and it was one of the things that initially put me off. The game actually looks quite good with 4x anti-aliasing and runs fine, but I cant read the friendly icon names, so I cant use it.

Initial mega-ugly mip-mapping and pixel shimmering is fixed by running maximum ansiotropic filtering. 100% fix.

Tracers are great. Dust and water hits look awesome.
New generation smoke and flak burst look great.
Clouds kick ass. They are implemented in correct shapes, with volumetic masses/storms as well as little fluffy ones.
Aircraft models are OK.

With Mitsu's sound pack, and the AWESOME AH sound coding, the sound immersion is even superb. If I am in a ground vehicle at an airbase under attack, I just turn my engine off to get a better feel for the action. Absolutely 10 out of 10 for sound in AH.

Roll is modeled correctly in AH IMHO. WBIII is toejamhouse.... like hell a 190 would take 120 degrees to stop a fast roll. I have guncamera footage that proved to me that WBIII was wrong (p51 demonstating near instant roll reversals...109 on his tail), but I gave up on telling people there.

I have no dramas with the AH damage model....good enough. I will never be satisfied with any sims until little chunks can be blown off the airframe.

AH MA gameplay is mostly FPS 0 feet firball die kill die dweeb style, which might be bad, if that is all that happened. But there are always enough other players on that take things to the next level.... I 20000 feet dogfights and bomber interept or field attack missions.

My personal view of AH is that is is a well developed, well rounded sim. The old style graphics engine annoys me, but the gameplay makes up for it.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: marauder on July 22, 2002, 02:30:47 AM
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Originally posted by Wilbus
We ARE superior to people who play FPS games.

:D LOL!!:D
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: robsan on July 22, 2002, 03:36:02 AM
oh well
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: AKSWulfe on July 22, 2002, 09:24:58 AM
Well, I only got one thing to say...

Il2, WWIIOl, WB, AH... if one ain't a sim, none of 'em are.

(psst: AH REQUIRES DX8.0)
-SW
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Wlfgng on July 22, 2002, 09:33:24 AM
buh-bye Envy.. aptly named.

you lose again.. you get the same response here as you got on the Warbirds BBS


later loser
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: humble on July 22, 2002, 02:36:58 PM
Hmmm,

Jumped on this one late but even so...I don't think you really bothered to download the game. Comments on Direct X, dopler, artwork, flight modeling etc lead me to believe you either have ulterior motives or are simply a moron. The current AH product has numerous issues and problems still to be resolved...but none of the points you mentioned even come close. As for the D9 vs spit 1...well I can think of a 100 sticks here be thinking ...bring them perkies down to me. And if you get hosed...so what.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: udet on July 22, 2002, 04:36:25 PM
scru un wooty,I don't have a Geforce and a 1400MHZ processor and I can't afford to get one in the near future.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: -EnVY- on July 22, 2002, 05:02:58 PM
What was that wlfgng? Yeah, you're right. I'm envious of you, man. You probably like to use cute little ;) 's and :) 's to punctuate your fine life and can milk your own fatty man-br3@sts, and I'm certainly envious of that.

Meet me at 20k and I'll give you a Pizza

PPPP
IIII
ZZZZ
ZZZZ
AAAA

And don't call me a loser...it hurts.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Wlfgng on July 22, 2002, 05:18:44 PM
you can read my post to you on WB.. speaks for itself.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: runny on July 25, 2002, 12:45:14 AM
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Originally posted by wooty
Again, while WWIIOL sickens me with its current state, they have the tracers down very well in my opinion.  If only flying werent a slideshow and i didnt have to be 100feet away to see someone, eh.


Of course, there's no way that all this eye candy is slowing things down, right?
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Wardog on July 25, 2002, 02:03:35 AM
Wooty must like the Easy Mode of wwiionline, only thing i can think of. I fly very little there, mostly go as Inf or Tanks. He also seems to forget that there are a crapload of guys here that came from WBs and/or sustain accounts with both. I flew WBs for 5 years and AW-DOS for 5 years before that. Kept my WBs account till WBIII came out and then quikely dropped if after the 1st week of release. Thay added eye candy but didnt touch the FM.

Wooty shows he has spent little time in any sim but seems to be an expert in all, howed that happen? Im happy here and will stay here.

Dog out........
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: aac on July 25, 2002, 12:59:48 PM
I dont know who this guy is and dont care but he has never fired a tracer bullet.  I have fired thousands and thousands (note thousands) and have yet to see any smoke being left from them, maybe I am just blind, yea, that is it, I am blind.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Stickman on July 25, 2002, 01:25:07 PM
"Lol...narrows it down to about 90 people (the entire iEN subscription audience). "



I've seen, just browsing in the last 20 minutes or so, much more iEN bashing on this board than I've seen HTC bashing in the last couple of weeks on the Warbirds board. Dunno what that means, do you?
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Wotan on July 25, 2002, 01:32:31 PM
i have seen your posts on agw stickman, seems theres lots of ien bashing going on there as well :). More then here anyway. Lots of folks here flew/fly wbs so ofcourse they have an opinion on ien.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Stickman on July 25, 2002, 01:42:58 PM
Personally, I'm not going to be nice to iEN just because I happen to fly their sim. If there's something I don't like I'll tell them. The only thing I've ever said about AH is that, when I did try it a few years ago, it sucked. That's all I've said because that's all I know. However, just so you know, I tried Warbirds around the same time and it wasn't any better (or worse, in my opinion).

I did download AH again a few months ago and, while I didn't spend much time flying it offline (maybe 10 minutes?), I did notice that gunnery seemed much easier, the tracers were extremely bright (as they are in WB, though a bit more so), and the flight model seems pretty decent. Whether the aircraft are accurately modeled is something I couldn't say, but the physics modeling itself seemed fairly solid. WWII Online though, in my opinion, has the best physics engine, they just don't have anything else at all going for them. Damage modeling is truly despicable, aircraft performance accuracy is totally out the window, and so many other things are wrong it's impossible to count them. Sad that such a promising project went straight to toejam.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Vulcan on July 25, 2002, 03:22:50 PM
IEN are stunninghunks, I left because they treat their customers like toejam.

HTC look after us.

HTC get my $$$$, and I guess thats what really counts :)

End of story.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Fatty on July 25, 2002, 05:09:48 PM
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Originally posted by -EnVY-
You probably like to use cute little ;) 's and :) 's to punctuate your fine life and can milk your own fatty man-br3@sts, and I'm certainly envious of that.


No milk for you.  Too uptight.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Wlfgng on July 25, 2002, 05:22:16 PM
weird desires there envy.
Title: my opinion on Aces High
Post by: Cobra on July 25, 2002, 05:23:48 PM
Oh come on Fatty, how about a sympathy milk?

Cobra
Title: HiTech .... prove of a strong community
Post by: airmess on July 25, 2002, 05:28:50 PM
Well guys. By reading all those comments, it shows that we're a pretty strong community and are defending our "pappy HiTech". The fun and the fact to stick together by flying is one of the mayour things we look in here. by all critics seen in this BBS lately, this is a very good behaviour we've shown.

cool

airmess