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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: SKurj on July 20, 2002, 09:24:20 PM
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Hey guys...
I suppose you have all noticed by now how much harder it is to get a reset.... or is it?
We've gone what about 3-4 days on ndisles now... this isn't the longest we've been stuck on this map before I don't think but its certainly one of the longer stays...
pizza was/is the realm of the milkrunner and gv captures
ndisles doesn't realy lend itself to either of these tactics
did we all forget how its done pre 1.10... or has the new buff model really changed gameplay alot?
I am thinking its the new bomber model...
Do we need another month to learn bombing? (not gonna happen for me, can't be bothered)
I know alot of players wanted the buff's impact reduced, but its looking like if you reduce it too much we'll have to time maps so we don't get stuck on the same one forever...
Its looking like balance has been skewed between the different areas of gameplay (buffs, gv's, fiters etc). Is it up to us to figure out a way to restore that balance? or is there something wrong...
Your thoughts?
SKurj
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Ah, it's just that the Bish have the SE corner on NDisles this time.
You know how hard they are to reset in that corner. They set a record not that long ago didn' t they?
They do pretty good for a bunch of skill-less, one-eyed, peg-legged, drunken skirt-chasers, don't they?
;)
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did we all forget how its done pre 1.10... or has the new buff model really changed gameplay alot?
of course it's the buff model.
I made a comment in MA last night after wondering the same thing. I said, "isnt it ironic that this smaller map is so much harder to reset than the Pizza map"
I was thinking of those people that were saying the pizza wouldnt be reset till 2010, and then the thing gets taken by the Kights ( of all countries lol) in short order, followed by a few other re-sets.
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The only reason this map hasnt been reset is that, the bishops almost never get reset on this map, and usually win it. But seeing as the bishops are in gangbang corner, it makes things more interesting.
We'll stay on this map untill enough bishops get sick of it to work on resetting someone :D
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They do pretty good for a bunch of skill-less, one-eyed, peg-legged, drunken skirt-chasers, don't they?
Things are a lot different when there are zillion skill-less, one-eyed, peg-legged, drunken skirt-chasers on line.
Reset was almost imminent every day for the past few days, except whenever US prime time comes, Rooks lose 50% of their total numbers while Bishops gain 50%. The northern side of the island is pretty much a 'neutral' type of strat zone, very hard to reset. The major battles are mostly between the SE and SW in ndisles, and guess what, it's Bishops against Rooks this time.
When numbers are equal, things go 'normal', as SE corner in ndisles is a disadvantaged place. Rooks march on East, onto Bish mainland. Then 'the time comes', Rooks log off, Bish log on, the situation is 'reset' with the Bish pushing west this time.
If the numbers were equal in every time zones, or if it was the Knights in the SW corner, ndisles would have been reset the first day it was put up.
No need to find complex reasons to such a simple thing. Numbers dictate everything. Occam's Law.
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Frankly my dear they just dont give a damn.
Without bomber guys this is what is left. like it or leave it.
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Originally posted by Turbot
Without bomber guys this is what is left. like it or leave it.
Woohooooooooooo!!
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Despite what people say, no matter how hard the bombadiers controls are, nothing withstands a carpet bombing by a 10-15 player buff formation.
I have been in a tank at a field under a bombing mission attack. The bombers destroyed everything, including me, in minutes.
I think we all know how much of a threat they are to other fighters air-to-air, so I will not bring that up.
I do feel, though, that the bombadier's controls are a little to hard to learn. Maybe if they had a line on the map coming from the tip of your plane that showed your exact heading.
That way newbies could know if they are lined up exactly for a field. I am sure this would help everyone, even if just a little bit.
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I've haven't even seen 2 players co-operate with bombers, let alone 10-15, since 1.10 was released.
That said, I agree that ndisles is simply sticking around becuase the Bish are in the SE corner. Bish have had an overall numerical advantage for months now, when they get put in a maps "lose spot" the map sticks around for a LONG time.
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I'm not complaining..This is my fave map..:)
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OK
perhaps it is just the current country positions, we'll see once we get to the next maps
SKurj
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A ZILLION Bish? Wow! I bet HT is out shopping for a P-51! A real one! That's 15 ZILLION Dollars EVERY MONTH just from the Bish alone!
So you're telling me that your country does pretty well when the numbers are relatively even BUT when the numbers are way UNEVEN you don't do as well? Because then it's "gangbanging'?
Man...... you may be on to something here. Do you kinda think this is like when a country.. say the Rooks.. puts up one of those famous 40 plane raids on a small field... say a Bish field... then the Bish don't usually do as well defending it? But, of course, that's NOT gangbanging.
Here's what I'm thinking then.
If numbers are relatively equal, huge multi plane raids are good for gameplay, right?
But if numbers are unequal, then nothing is fair and it's all bad for gameplay.
Hmmm... I better go shave with Occam's Razor, then maybe do an Avogadro's number and contemplate this new insight so that I can truly appreciate the elegance of it and its harmony with the Cosmic all.
;)
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Maybe everyones catching up on the furballin they missed ??
:D
I've seen quite a few bomber boxes all at medium altitudes though always singles. Even saw the "legendary" Typhoon suicide squad take out a Knight carrier..
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I better go shave with Occam's Razor
I do not see the sense in this statement. What is the connection between Occam's razor and this thread?
Occam's razor: "a scientific and philosophic rule that entities should not be multiplied unnecessarily which is interpreted as requiring that the simplest of competing theories be preferred to the more complex or that explanations of unknown phenomena be sought first in terms of known quantities "
Translation: Simplest thoeries are often the right.
THIS IS NOT A FLAME, I am simply confused about your choice of words. Perhaps you said something in sarcasism and I missed it, as I tend to do.
:confused:
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When I shave, I use the simplest razor. ;)
Sorry, I've just been in a mood lately. All the wailing and whining and gnashing of teeth has melted my sarcasm button in the on position.
Think nothing of it. Just an old man rambling.
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I am still really confused but will honor your wish to "let it go"
I do not "get" alot of the humor people use on the internet. Please forgive me for that.
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Well, I could detail the sick, devious, tortured route my humor took in response to Kweassa's take on my first post, with a point by point explanation of each line.. but trust me, it wouldn't be worth it and it also would probably fail to amuse you.
Like I said, I think I'm just physically tired and mentally maxxed out right now.
Particularly since this GAME is such a GOOD GAME
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Read the lines again. Either you read it long, or you don't care what you've read.
Skurj asked for a reason, you gave one answer, I refuted it and gave another.
If you want to continue this crappy attempt to turn a simple and logical observation into a whinophobic spasm, please do so in the formal whine thread I have posted separately. Otherwise I suggest you just give us some other comprehensive and simple reason to understanding why everytime Bishops are in the "loser's spot" they hang on there longer, and leave silly Bishy limericks out this time.
ps) Oh that's right. If small exaggerations would bring out such dramatic display of whinophobia from you, I'll be careful in the future and try to not use the word "ZILLION".
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I think everyone saw your first post for what it truly was.