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Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: JoeDirt on July 21, 2002, 11:39:01 AM
is there some reason we dont have it?:confused:
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: Puck on July 21, 2002, 11:41:10 AM
Mostly because the Rooks and Bish would confuse it with personal lubricant :eek: :cool: :eek:

:D:D:D

ed: Must still be asleep; grammer is worse than HiTec's (is) :)
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: Puke on July 21, 2002, 12:59:52 PM
It's really an anti-personnel weapon and almost everything we hit in here are hardened targets.
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Post by: Holden McGroin on July 21, 2002, 03:09:42 PM
Settin' fire to a hanger doesn't do any damage...:)
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Post by: Nefarious on July 21, 2002, 03:57:27 PM
Setting fire to the City does though;)....

Bring on the Nape!
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Post by: Shiva on July 21, 2002, 05:42:36 PM
Napalming fuel tanks should be fun to watch, too...
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Post by: Kevin14 on July 21, 2002, 05:50:58 PM
Yeah, I was wondering that also. We should also have depth charges to strap onto the P51s :D (In the China-Burma-India theater when bombs were scarce, they used depth charges instead. The Japanese claimed it was illegal to use against troops becuase of the enormous concussions. Lol, but atrocities are OK?)
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: Hangtime on July 21, 2002, 06:42:36 PM
Napalm would be VERY effecive against those gawdamned cockroaches and other armor units... especially that open turrent turd walker of an ostwind.

Turn the panzies lill armor plated boxes into ez bake ovens.

Dammo, give us Napalm.. I'd really get back into killin the cockroaches if I could toast 'em with Napalm.
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: Toad on July 21, 2002, 06:52:27 PM
I believe HTC left it out because it is REALLY environmentally unfriendly.

The maps would soon be all blackened and it would take YEARS for the vegetation to recover. Not to mention all the nasty petroleum byproducts in the water sources.

Just a guess.
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Post by: Saintaw on July 21, 2002, 06:56:36 PM
just imagine the amount of smoke, pbobably enough to get you a slideshow on a PIV 2.2 Ghz too :)
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: JoeDirt on July 21, 2002, 07:12:47 PM
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Originally posted by Saintaw
just imagine the amount of smoke, pbobably enough to get you a slideshow on a PIV 2.2 Ghz too :)


im sure there is a way to fix that....
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: Hangtime on July 21, 2002, 07:14:16 PM
Smoke? AH Enviornmentalists?

Damn, the mere thought of the chance to flash fry ONE miserable lil AH cockroach herder would be more than worth the frame rate hits or the wailing and gnashing of teeth commin from the polygon preservationists.

In fact, lets give the 'save the polygon pinheads' a demonstration permit.

We'll then demonstrate to everyones satifaction the effectiveness of naplam, without harming any innocent polygons outside the demonstrators immediate proximity.

:D
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: CavemanJ on July 22, 2002, 08:45:49 AM
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Originally posted by Hangtime

We'll then demonstrate to everyones satifaction the effectiveness of naplam, without harming any innocent polygons outside the demonstrators immediate proximity.

:D


Sign me up for that run
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: LePaul on July 22, 2002, 08:52:14 AM
Nothng would make me smile more than providing a napalm landing site for an La-7 driver in a chute, about to hit the dirt :D
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Post by: Saintaw on July 22, 2002, 09:14:23 AM
If we get Napalm, we need infantry 1st, or it won't have it's full fun potential ;)

sick poeple :p
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Post by: Midnight on July 22, 2002, 09:29:05 AM
Napalm would be a great thing to use as a wall defense against GVs.

Got a wave of Ostiwinds coming to town? Lay down a wall of Napalm and stop them from advancing.

I doubt we will ever see napalm though. Being that fire is a heat weapon, and would have to burn for a period of time (say 2 minutes) there would be the inevitable spawn point bombing by everyone and their grandmothers.

Just think of the ENDLESS whines of both sides...

1. That guy just blew up in the fire, but I only got an assist!!!

2. I just blew up in a fugging spawn point fire. BS!!!

3. Hey, I dropped napalm on a spawn point and then someone else dropped there also!!! He's trying to steal my spawn kills!

4. WTF.. The entire runway at A7 is on fire with napalm!!! I can't take off in my Dweebfire!!!

5. Lamers! quit dropping napalm on this runway! This is OUR Field!!!

I think the potential of whines alone have permanantly excluded napalm from ever getting into this game.
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: DrDea on July 22, 2002, 09:48:29 AM
"Nothng would make me smile more than providing a napalm landing site for an La-7 driver in a chute, about to hit the dirt"

   Oh lawd I just started drooling like Homer for donuts :)
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Post by: Hangtime on July 22, 2002, 11:19:55 AM
Damn Midnight.. I see yer beer glass is half empty.

let me switch it with this half-full one..

;)
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Post by: Masherbrum on July 22, 2002, 11:31:44 AM
Are you speaking from personal experience, Puck? :(

Masher
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Post by: Blank on July 22, 2002, 11:34:55 AM
For those who only know the basics i.e. its sticky and hot. I just looked this up on the net, (dont know if its correct :) )

Q: What is Napalm?

A: Napalm is an incendiary substance developed by Harvard scientists cooperating with the U.S. army and used in bombs and flame throwers. Napalm is based on a mixture of gasoline and a thickening agent. Aluminum salts of napathenic acid and palmitic acid used for this purpose gave us the term napalm. The thick jelly-like material burns at up to 1830° F (1000° C) and clings to anything it touches.

Q: When and where was Napalm first used?

A: The first use of napalm occurred on July 23, 1944 during pre-invasion air strikes on the island of Tinian, part of the Marianas island chain in the Pacific.
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: Mathman on July 22, 2002, 12:24:22 PM
Napalm sticks to kids
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: Masherbrum on July 22, 2002, 12:29:50 PM
Originally posted by Mathman - "Napalm sticks to kids"

 Oh Geez!  
 
 
:eek:

Masher
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: JoeDirt on July 22, 2002, 12:36:50 PM
thats war:D




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Originally posted by Midnight
Napalm would be a great thing to use as a wall defense against GVs.

Got a wave of Ostiwinds coming to town? Lay down a wall of Napalm and stop them from advancing.

I doubt we will ever see napalm though. Being that fire is a heat weapon, and would have to burn for a period of time (say 2 minutes) there would be the inevitable spawn point bombing by everyone and their grandmothers.

Just think of the ENDLESS whines of both sides...

1. That guy just blew up in the fire, but I only got an assist!!!

2. I just blew up in a fugging spawn point fire. BS!!!

3. Hey, I dropped napalm on a spawn point and then someone else dropped there also!!! He's trying to steal my spawn kills!

4. WTF.. The entire runway at A7 is on fire with napalm!!! I can't take off in my Dweebfire!!!

5. Lamers! quit dropping napalm on this runway! This is OUR Field!!!

I think the potential of whines alone have permanantly excluded napalm from ever getting into this game.
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: Pei on July 22, 2002, 12:48:40 PM
Charlie on the wire! Charlie on the wire! Drop danger close!.........
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Post by: Masherbrum on July 22, 2002, 12:49:33 PM
Get that sapper!!!

Masher
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Post by: Shiva on July 22, 2002, 01:01:51 PM
Rather than adding napalm, how about adding the Lutwaffe's SD 4 HL Hollow Charge Anti-Personnel and Vehicle Bomb (http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/sd4hl.htm)? 12 ounce shaped charge, total weight about 9 pounds. They were loaded in either the SB250 or SB500 containers -- 40 in the SB250 and 74 in the SB500. Just the thing for the annoying flakpansie -- armor-piercing cluster bombs. The same area effect as napalm -- a broad area covered with explosions -- but without the problem of having your frame rate nuked by a big plume of black smoke.
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: SELECTOR on July 22, 2002, 01:38:10 PM
why stop at napalm?  what about flame thrower tanks..:)
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: JoeDirt on July 22, 2002, 02:13:32 PM
..yeSSS....napalm....flame thrower....cluster bombs...YESS YESS!!!!!
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Post by: Hangtime on July 22, 2002, 03:14:13 PM
Wonder how many perks it would take to get the Enola Gay w/ Fat Man in the bomb bay?

:D
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Post by: Chairboy on July 22, 2002, 03:26:36 PM

F-f-f-fiiiire!
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Post by: Karnak on July 22, 2002, 03:40:27 PM
Which aircraft in WWII carried napalm?

The only two that I know for sure are the Typhoon and B-29A.  I taking from the post about the first use of napalm that F4Us and/or F6Fs (TBMs?) also carried it.
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: JoeDirt on July 22, 2002, 04:06:25 PM
corse the F4U used it.....dont ya ever watch blacksheep squadron?
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: Pei on July 22, 2002, 06:32:36 PM
I was just reading a book (To Win the Winter Sky, can't remeber the authors name) which is about the air war over the Ardennes offensive. It mentioned the US Ninth Air Force fighter-bombers using napalm (P-51s and P-47s). Sunno how accurate it is in this respect but otherwise it seems to be pretty good.
Let me see if I can find a reference.

EDIT:
see http://paul.rutgers.edu/~mcgrew/wwii/usaf/html/Jul.44.html

July 1944
"PACIFIC OCEAN AREA (POA, Seventh Air Force): P-47s from Saipan Island, using
napalm-bombs for the first time, hit Tinian and Pagan Islands. Makin Island-
based B-25s pound Ponape Island."

also
see http://www.telusplanet.net/public/bailart/A_Letter_from_Robert_Bailey/Robert_Bailey_s__Touched_by_Li/_Touched_by_Lightening__-_The_/_touched_by_lightening__-_the_.html

"When Coenen arrived in England in January, 1944, no P-47s were available for the group, so they began flying P-38 Lockheed Lightnings from Andover Field, Hants, on Salisbury Plain. Captain Coenen eventually flew 73 missions with 122 sorties. The months leading up to D-Day saw him flying in a variety of roles: bomber escort, dive bombing, strafing, armed reconnaissance and, after the Invasion, ground support for army units. On D-Day he flew three missions over the beachheads, providing cover.
     The first Ninth Air Force unit to use napalm in combat was the 370th Fighter Group, during ground support missions in July.
"
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Post by: Biggles on July 22, 2002, 06:58:59 PM
If we had napalm everybody would want to fly in the morning, and there would be severe server overload.
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Post by: Holden McGroin on July 22, 2002, 07:35:45 PM
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Originally posted by Hangtime
Wonder how many perks it would take to get the Enola Gay w/ Fat Man in the bomb bay?

:D


I'd rather have Bocks Car
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: JoeDirt on July 22, 2002, 09:45:14 PM
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Originally posted by Biggles
If we had napalm everybody would want to fly in the morning, and there would be severe server overload.



why just in the morning?
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: Dead Man Flying on July 23, 2002, 01:03:52 AM
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Originally posted by JoeDirt
why just in the morning?


Well, I can't speak for everyone else, but I know that I love the smell of napalm in the morning.  Smells like victory.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: bloodstain on July 23, 2002, 01:09:16 AM
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Mostly because the Rooks and Bish would confuse it with personal lubricant
Hmmm must be one of those crazy Knit Wits!:D
Title: why dont we have napalm?
Post by: Seeker on July 23, 2002, 01:40:37 AM
The USAAF also used napalm extensively in the Italian campaign.

P47 squads used it.
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Post by: Voss on July 23, 2002, 03:35:18 AM
I thought it would be neat when it was first thought of over a year ago (you can search I guess).

I think fighters already have a great advantage over GV's and they'd be the only targets for Napalm. Okay, you *could* vultch with it. And it might mess up a runway for awhile. Hmm, maybe a better solution then making runways bumpy?

Still, against a *really* good GV guy in an air-to-ground vehicle a fighter will have even odds, if it attacks alone. Otherwise, GV's can fight on even ground. So, napalm would just be eye candy if not just unbalancing of the air-to-ground war. Sure, it can be done, but it just wouldn't add anything to the game.


I would like to see sub operations first, or another Grumman or North American design (F8F, P51, A36). I wouldn't mind if they were perked, even. Of course, I would expect that of the Bearcat. :)