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Title: Win98
Post by: easymo on July 21, 2002, 12:33:18 PM
I chose this OS mainly for its reputation as the gamers workhorse. Surfing around, I noticed that both, the new Fighter Ace, and Mush Birds 3 , require Win98SE or newer in there min. system requirements.  I am hardly inclined to change out my whole OS just to test drive these games. I suspect there are more than a few around, like me. What were these guys thinking?
Title: Win98
Post by: Animal on July 21, 2002, 12:54:29 PM
I dont get what your rant is about.
You are seem to be mad that the games are built for Windows 98 or higher, but that is your OS of choice :confused:
Title: Win98
Post by: SKurj on July 21, 2002, 01:00:42 PM
he is griping about 98 vs 98se... when 98se was the better choice to begin with over standard 98...

wonder what he was thinking +)


SKurj
Title: Win98
Post by: SirLoin on July 21, 2002, 01:03:24 PM
Maybe he's w 95..?
Title: Win98
Post by: Innominate on July 21, 2002, 01:39:44 PM
uhh, as long as you've kept your system up to date, those games would probably run on win95.

Very often minimum system requirements are there so that when some handsomehunk calls in with a broken win95 system that hasnt been updated in years, they don't have to try and support it.
Title: Win98
Post by: hardcase on July 21, 2002, 01:54:12 PM
SE was the bug fixes, you should first get all the critiacl updates for win98 and think about getting the 20 dollar CD of win98SE.


hardcase
Title: Win98
Post by: easymo on July 21, 2002, 03:05:39 PM
Apparently there is a language problem.  Let me put it differently.  AH and IL2 both run fine on Win98. As do a number of other games.   Everything else I do with my computer works fine with Win 98.  What is the advantage/need for Win98SE.
Title: Win98
Post by: Karnak on July 21, 2002, 03:22:40 PM
There shouldn't be any difference in support for Win98 and Win98SE.  They both go to the same level of DirectX and use the same drivers.

Have you tried running these games?

Now, Win95 would be a different story...

(BTW, WinXP is the best general purpose OS now)
Title: Win98 vs Win98SE
Post by: jdm3 on July 21, 2002, 03:33:06 PM
I don't know about what is still available, as I noticed that Microsoft is quickly removing support for any OS other than XP.  There used to be free downloads to win98 and after all the updates were applied the difference between win98 and win98SE was the Internet Conection Sharing.  

Sharing a dial up connection shouldn't do a thing for the game.  Soooo, my guess is they listed Win98SE as minimum requirement so they wouldn't have to teach support people how to support OS-es that hadn't been updated.

-Jim
Title: Win98
Post by: Innominate on July 21, 2002, 04:25:24 PM
Win98 really isnt that great anymore.
Win2k killed it for the most part on newer systems, winxp now is finishing it off.  Driver support for 2k and XP is as good or better than win98(With the odd exception of some joysticks)

One of the greatest things though, when a game freezes up and forces you to reboot in win98, in xp/2k control-alt-delete will close it without any hassles.
Title: Win98
Post by: easymo on July 21, 2002, 05:33:47 PM
so they wouldn't have to teach support people how to support OS-es that hadn't been updated.


That makes sense, I guess.

No. I havent tried to run these games. I was put off by the Min. reqs.
Title: Win98
Post by: whgates3 on July 21, 2002, 07:13:46 PM
win98se was the last decent OS M$ put out. the 1st edition is not too different from SE, except it has a lot of the same crappy networking software as 95.  until a few months ago i was in the tech support biz for M$ and can tell you from 1st hand knowledge that win98 is still the most popular (OK, most widley used) OS out there and anyone trying to sell (soft/hard)ware who doesn't support win98 is missing a huge chunk of the market
Title: Win98
Post by: koala on July 22, 2002, 01:53:18 PM
What exactly does Windows XP offer for the gamer that Windows '98 doesn't have?  In other words, what current game would run on XP and not run on Win '98?

I have a feeling, knowing M$' predatory nature, that they will use Direct X to leverage XP.  Either version 9 or 10 will probably be XP-only.  Then when a poplular game comes out that requires DX 10, a lot of people will be forced to migrate or do without.  It's the MS way.
Title: Win98
Post by: Wlfgng on July 22, 2002, 02:29:41 PM
the leverage is that MS will no longer support Win98 or SE.
add NT4.0 to the list as of July 2003.

can't buy it or get help for it.
Title: Win98
Post by: Animal on July 22, 2002, 02:56:46 PM
If they are for W98 SE, they should run fine in W98, just keep the OS updated and groomed.
Title: Win98
Post by: Shiva on July 22, 2002, 03:26:38 PM
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What exactly does Windows XP offer for the gamer that Windows '98 doesn't have?


Having to call Microsoft to re-register your operating system every second or third  upgrade you make to your system -- whenever WinXP decides that its current system configuration is 'different enough' from its registration configuration that it might be installed on another system, rather than the one you registered it for.
Title: Win98
Post by: Hangtime on July 22, 2002, 04:42:15 PM
Easymo, whut animal said. I have W98, groomed as he put it, and it handles any games I sick on it.. or am likely too.

I prefer w98 over the new systems simply because it'll run all my old DOS stuff. Best legacy platform winders has is W98/98SE, IMHO.

Got a buddy runnin XP.. he likes it, seems stable.. won't run any cool old dos stuff.

If you got the ram and a good vid card and enuff processor, w98 will run microdork CSF3 and IL2.
Title: Win98
Post by: easymo on July 22, 2002, 04:52:58 PM
I was just curious if there was something that they put into these games (FA, WB3) that absolutely required SE.  Doesn't sound like it.
Title: Win98
Post by: easymo on July 22, 2002, 04:53:47 PM
BTW. Glad I asked. learned a few things.
Title: Win98
Post by: Hangtime on July 22, 2002, 04:59:28 PM
really?? That'll be 10 bucks.

:)
Title: Win98
Post by: easymo on July 22, 2002, 05:05:11 PM
Ill tell you the same thing I tell all my creditors. "Checks in the mail."
Title: "If they are for W98 SE, they should run fine in W98"
Post by: weazel on July 22, 2002, 08:51:17 PM
That is partially correct,  the newer versions of the MS installer check your OS version and will terminate the install process before completion.

MS is determined to kill Win 9X.