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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: AKDejaVu on July 22, 2002, 07:35:23 PM
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Fly an FM2.
Its a good thing this plane only has 4 .50s.
AKDejaVu
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It's just the expected story of introducing another Uber plane into the Main :(
Squadie Makarov dispatched a 262 yesterday flying the "New" Uber plane in the main....
Sad...
(http://www.dogs.arff.info/joystick.gif)
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FM2 is a zero that can dive hehe
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Guy that loses a 262 to an FM2 had to have asked for it...
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Yep, I had some alt so I dove ahead of him. He shot by then climbed into a loop...silly boy. I had enough speed to close to within 700 and filled him with .50's. Got 8.75 perkies. :)
FM2 is a great lil' plane. I fear nothing in it except Zero's. I relish going in after a Niki.
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Its an amazing little plane.
Last night I flew it for the first time, loaded down with x2 100lb bombs and rockets on a base attack mission.
About half way there, I got attacked by a La7 that had 4k alt on me. I started turning and burning with him, forgetting that I was loaded down. I dodged something like 3 seperate gun passes, and he had to bug out when I started to gain angles on him. All the while keeping my ord. Which I then proceeded to wreck his base with :)
Impressive.
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Great lil' turn and burner, but late war Boom and Zoomers with patience can defeat it eventually.
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The little FM-2 is probably one of the most under-appreciated airplanes in the MA. Its got a wonderful little ground-support capability with those rockets, and hanging twin drop tanks gives it a range and flight endurance to get wherever it needs to go (even though it'll take its own sweet time to get there). It has the meritorious distinction of being the only plane I haven't nosed into the ground during a ground strike, mostly because its so slow that I can catch my errors before they become tragic.
And its just so darn cute, how could you not laugh while engaging one in combat? Its like a Disney cartoon of the little plane that could.
Putt-putt-putt ratatatat putt-putt-putt
Now didn't that put a smile on your face? :)
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Putt-putt-putt ratatatat putt-putt-putt
*Snort* I may never be able to fly one without laughing now.
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http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=56957
Heh.
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Originally posted by poopster
It's just the expected story of introducing another Uber plane into the Main :(
Squadie Makarov dispatched a 262 yesterday flying the "New" Uber plane in the main....
Sad...
This thread was not started as some kind of new uberplane statement. More to announce the demise of an uberplane designation.
The N1K2 has an opponent that can simply demolish it.
AKDejaVu
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For you "very early-war" fans out there, the F4F-4 isn't very far behind the FM-2, and it looks even more cartoonish ;)
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Well, I am 6-0 in the FM2 against the N1K2, but I think "demolish" might be a bit strong.
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I set my convergence at 425-400-375 on the F4F and that little bugger is deadly... those 6 .50's tear little Niki's to peaces! :D
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Originally posted by popeye
Well, I am 6-0 in the FM2 against the N1K2, but I think "demolish" might be a bit strong.
The only chance an N1K2 has against an FM2 is in a HO.. other than that its toast. I think demolish is apropriate in this context;)
I flew the plane a few sorties and engaged several different aircraft. I was simply amazed that N1K2s did not stand a chance. I noticed this above virtually everything else those sorties.
AKDejaVu
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For you "very early-war" fans out there, the F4F-4 isn't very far behind the FM-2, and it looks even more cartoonish
Hey! Be kind to my F4F-4! She's one bad mofo even if she's slower than dandelions blowing in the wind. On the contrary, that blue-gray color is beautiful and menacing!
I think the 2nd day after 1.10 came out some N1K driver with altitude targeted me in my F4F-4 for destruction but I was able to blast him at the top of a loop to my amazement (and I'm sure his.) Now if only the film viewer would allow me to watch it again and relive my glory. :D
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
The only chance an N1K2 has against an FM2 is in a HO.. other than that its toast. I think demolish is apropriate in this context;)
I flew the plane a few sorties and engaged several different aircraft. I was simply amazed that N1K2s did not stand a chance. I noticed this above virtually everything else those sorties.
AKDejaVu
How about "Hanging on a prop" if both have equal E? Wouldn't the FM2 stall first? (I honestly don't know..)
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I the 3 encounters I've had in my F6F the FM2 has been an easy kill, just like all planes that can out turn you, ya gotta play to your strengths, not his.
'tis a cute lil' plan...'specialy when it's spiriling to it's death :p
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Yup, FM2 is surprizingly good. However, not a climber, so I guess the N1K2 would win the prophanging contest.
It turns very close to the Spitfire, maybe about like Spit9, but flying it I found that Spits are dangerous, for they can outclimb the FM-2, and they have cannons.
A good N1K2 killer is the HUrricane IIC, Spitfire V as well as FM-2
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This thread was not started as some kind of new uberplane statement
Well duhhh :D
Some time my humor is well...
My humor :)
Went right over the top there.....
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on a simular note...the Fokker Dr3 used to kick some bellybutton when it was allowed in the main arena in AW.
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Maybe, but twin Spandaus in this arena won't mean a thing. Lookit the lowly 202 for more details.
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Originally posted by Makarov1
Yep, I had some alt so I dove ahead of him. He shot by then climbed into a loop...silly boy. I had enough speed to close to within 700 and filled him with .50's. Got 8.75 perkies. :)
FM2 is a great lil' plane. I fear nothing in it except Zero's. I relish going in after a Niki.
A few days ago I had a couple of fights with FM-2s at A24 of NDIsles.
I had just lost a Yak-9T to ship ack after killing a bunch of attackers. So I upped a Hurricane IIC. I had just finished off a damaged Seafire, when I spot an FM-2 and F6F headed straight for me. Well, I've got little E left, so I turn and head away, figuring that as soon as those guys close to shooting range, I'll out-turn them. Well, I break hard right, slightly nose down to retain some speed. However, the little FM-2 turns even tighter (much to my surprise), and shoots off my elevators! It was Markarov9 (I believe that I got another FM-2 earlier with the Yak).
Well, I couldn't let that stand. :eek: I grabbed an A6M2 and returned the favor. ;)
So, being suitably impressed with the little Grumman, I have flown it several times since. What impresses me most is its ability to shrug off hits that would kill a B-17. While it doesn't carry a lot of ord, it'll haul six rockets and two 100 pounders, enough to do substantial damage to a town, VH or GVs. It's one tough hombre. Saw a squadie HO a 110G-2. He took a beating, but the 110 went down. He landed without oil, flaps, two guns, tailwheel and aileron. But, he survived, the mighty 110 didn't.....
You can still tangle with Zeros, but should one saddle-up on your six, well, you're probably going to die. Unless the Zeke has no cannon ammo left. Those 7.7mm are nearly useless against the Wildcat.
My regards,
Widewing
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
How about "Hanging on a prop" if both have equal E? Wouldn't the FM2 stall first? (I honestly don't know..)
Don't know Rip.. never had one get the chance to just stand there for me to shoot. I engaged one N1K2 when I had a considerable amount of energy and the N1K2 did not hold his as well in the turns. I later engaged an N1K2 when we were both low on E. He couldn't do anything to shake me... in the verticle or flat.
AKDejaVu
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Originally posted by AKDejaVu
The N1K2 has an opponent that can simply demolish it.
AKDejaVu
P-38L can demolish a Niki quite easily....
(http://www.hispanicvista.com/assets/479th_shield.jpg)
Ack-Ack
479th FG - Riddle's Raiders
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Originally posted by akak
P-38L can demolish a Niki quite easily....
So can a C.202 :)
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lol ONLY 4 50's hehehe
I've had more 5 kill+ runs in an FM2 than the rest of the planeset lately +)
I've landed 7 and still had 180 rounds left... just fuel stopped me...
SKurj
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So... The 'General Motors' Wildcat has finally been found in AH. Too bad, I though I was the only one that new.;)
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I think ill save this thread for the next nikky whiner. Thx
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I got a Ta and a few additional scalps, even outturning a Spit. As already mentioned, the odd Zeke can give you trouble, but even then I didn't feel totally outclassed- just a tougher fight.
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Keep the fight in the vertical plane and the F4F/FM2 is no threat.
Blue
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the FM2 will happily turn with anything but zekes (and even with them it can turn a little and better at high speeds).
I was amazed in my first encounter with a spit5, when the guy was pulling the stick into his belly and I was turning inside him without even the stall buzzer going off.
it's a kind of an american zeke - made of iron instead of paper and with standard 0.5 guns.
Bozon
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had to drive the FM2 on a jabo mission.
as i was 'trying' to do evasives to avoid ack after a strafing pass on the city, i noticed the roll rate on this plane can be measured with a calender!
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FM2 is a great field deacker...
take rockets, hit 6 acks then use guns on the last few
SKurj
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I also got a 262 with a FM2. That little sucker can easily reach 500+ in a dive.
Use the external views check out the animation for the landing gear sometime, very impressive.
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With all these different planes that can "demolish" a Nik, how did it ever get it's uber rep?
bowser
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Originally posted by bowser
With all these different planes that can "demolish" a Nik, how did it ever get it's uber rep?
bowser
Probably from some dweeb that got shot down repeatedly by a Niki and whined about in the message boards and it took a life of its own after that. Probably the same dweeb that started the 'uber' La7 nonsense too.
Ack-Ack
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A popular legend stated that the F6F was designed specifically to fight the Zero. Preliminary design work on the Hellcat actually began as early as February, 1938 and was an attempt to upgrade the performance of the Wildcat to bring it up to the level of designs emerging in Europe.
The FM-2, on the other hand, WAS designed to give the Navy a version of the Wildcat with performance closer to that of the Zero. Five hundred pounds was stripped from the airframe and the engine. With 150 extra horsepower the little FM-2's performance now exceeded that of the Zero 52's at low level. Performance varied at different altitudes, in both speed and rate of climb. Rate of roll was identical at speeds of 184mph and under, but the FM-2 was superior at higher speeds. Turns were very similar, with a slight advantage in favor of the Zero 52. The Zero could gain one turn in eight at 10,000 ft. (Technical Air Intelligence flight test data gathered from comparisons with captured Zero 52 at NAS Patuxent River, July 1944.)
Regards, Shuckins
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Originally posted by bowser
With all these different planes that can "demolish" a Nik, how did it ever get it's uber rep?
LW