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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: JANNERIK on July 23, 2002, 08:34:04 AM
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Hi all.
Im new to this game and sadly there are cheaters here allso .
I dont know HOW he cheats but i know he cheats. I have a film proving it and i need somewhere to upload it . Its 450 kb zipped and please contact me on jann.erik.johansen@broadpark.no if you can help so u all can watch it .
They guy is topguns or topgunz , its on the movie . hes 6.7k away from me . he have just shot down one of my B17s and i have 2 left . u can see on the movie that he fires and hits me even tho he is so far away and even oppositt direction then i am.
After he shot down my first plane i asked him if and HOW he can hit on over 5k ... and he went off my back and started to fly home..then i get a msg from him that he dosent cheat . WEL I KNOW he do and i have the proof. So Hitech IF this person (after you have view it ) still has a AH account then you can deleted MY account and gimme my money back . Im playing AH for FUN and becouse i though it wasnt cheats here. allso i woud like to hear what kind of cheat protection u guys have in AH and what youre thinking of to make it cheat free..or if you like the cheats to be there (if dont do anything about it , or cnat do anything )
AH is a fine game to bad cheaters allways seem to ruined them ...
Xcuse my english its not my first language hehehe
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You already admit in another post that you have connection problems. My guess is that your connection is to blame.
Be prepared, eventhough you are "new to this game", no one takes lightly of being called a cheater.
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wel i have the film and i view it many times now . ANd its no way he coud have done what he did.
And it cant be connection problems .
"The file that you have tried to attach is too big. The maximum size is 102400 bytes."
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Something similar happened to me a while ago. I saw my opponent about 2k away firing opposite direction and he hited me and killed me. But it was related to crappy connection at that moment, no cheating. If this happens again check your NET STATUS if you connection is stable, without sudden spikes before you accuse someone to be cheater.
czpetr
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The film show what YOU see in your front end ...
Not what hapenned overall ,have you checked your net status ?
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Just to be clear on this, If either or both of you had siginficant net lag at the time of the merge, you may not recieve the info on your computer until he is way past you. My guess, from your description, is that he attacked you head on and your computer did not recieve that info until he was well past you, at which point, all the info was updated showing a guy well behind you firing away from you. Even under the best net conditions, you can hear the pings from a HO pass after the merge.
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With 512 deaths, and 224 kills, I would imagine that Topgunz would have a better K/D ratio than THAT if indeed he was a hacker. ;)
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No, Rip, he's one of those "incognito" hackers. :rolleyes:
Masher
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Considering you have had 49 disconnects in 127 hours of play, I would say that it is a connection problem. Or it could be topgunz too, he has 21 discos in 68 hours. Although I can't tell how many of these discos are due to AH crashes.
Although, I am jealous that you are able to average more than 6 hours in the air a day this tour. :mad:
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Originally posted by Mickey1992
Although, I am jealous that you are able to average more than 6 hours in the air a day this tour. :mad:
Who needs sleep at home? That's what work is for. :)
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What are u afraid off ?
Is there any cheats to this game , or isnt it . wel i think it is .
First off all i checked my net status and it was fine then . And yes like someone say you shoudnt accuse, but NEVER ever be afraid to question a cheater if you think he cheats .
Wel im kinda new ( played for 4 weeks about ) , but i know that a 6.2 or 6.7 k is WAY off for him to shot me down . Watch the film , wel if someone can host it for me.
And again dont talk this away , becouse if there are cheats out there woudnt we have to get those out of the way ?
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
With 512 deaths, and 224 kills, I would imagine that Topgunz would have a better K/D ratio than THAT if indeed he was a hacker. ;)
maybee thats why he cheats then .
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the game, when loosing updates is extrapulating the last known movements of the planes around. so when the connection freezes for a few seconds, you'll see everybody else flying in their last known direction, and every body else will see you do the same.
when the updates resume, it looks as if there is some syncronization, and all planes warp to the right location.
the result:
if you shot anyone while in this no-update situation, he'll recive the hits only after the updates start working again. on his machine, by this time, your plane might be far a way and pointing in a different direction.
it happens to me too, being killed this way and killing strangly flying bandits that then warp and explode.
there are some connection issues latly (the TCP switch is regular now). don't take it too hard, and be VERY carefull before blaming anyone of cheating.
Bozon
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Originally posted by bozon
the game, when loosing updates is extrapulating the last known movements of the planes around. so when the connection freezes for a few seconds, you'll see everybody else flying in their last known direction, and every body else will see you do the same.
when the updates resume, it looks as if there is some syncronization, and all planes warp to the right location.
the result:
if you shot anyone while in this no-update situation, he'll recive the hits only after the updates start working again. on his machine, by this time, your plane might be far a way and pointing in a different direction.
it happens to me too, being killed this way and killing strangly flying bandits that then warp and explode.
there are some connection issues latly (the TCP switch is regular now). don't take it too hard, and be VERY carefull before blaming anyone of cheating.
Bozon
And, to add to Bozon's comment, send the film and your accusations to HTC. We have so many folks posting accusations on this BBS, yet not ONE has been proven to be a cheater yet. So save us your anger, and take it off the forum to HiTech creations. If indeed it is a cheat, they will take care of it.
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If your going to play "online games" and get upset about all the trivial crap that is "online games" then I might suggest sticking with "boxed games"....or something
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Two more shots and two more beers bartender! (arms flailing at the end of the bar)
Masher
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Yeager I tried that, and they cheat too :(
hehe, j/k
Masher
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Wel i know the connection and discos can couse deaths and so on , but this is diffrent .
WHY DO YOU ALL MAKE FUN and try to xcouse if there realy is a cheater ?? gimme a host so i can post the film and see for yaself. I know about connection problems BUT its NOT that .
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I think if you understood how the internet works, how PCs communicate, and that the internet is one of the most unstable and unreliable pieces of technology that people have come to rely on... then you'd understand anything is possible in games over the internet without "cheating".
I've seen planes fly backwards.
-SW
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Must have been Ripsnort in a Hurricane, AK.
Masher
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there is another way than whistle in phone line to acces internet ?
DOH !!!
It's hard to live in a third world country :D
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Jannerik
I have been flying this game since 1999 and cannot ever remember seeing what you describe. Nor have my simularly experianced squadies ever reported seeing it. nor any of the squadies in the other squads I have flown with.
With a few noted exeptions, accusations of cheating always end up being someone who didnt know how to judge the e-state of his enemy or lag.
period.
but quit if you like.
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Nobody is making excuses for anyone.
Everything described in this thread points to a bad connection by either one of or both of the participants.
The failure of individuals to grasp this concept will be a source of constant amazement to myself and most others replying in this thread.
AKDejaVu
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"What we've got her is....failure to communicate. Some men you just can't reach...."
Masher
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"I've seen planes fly backwards.
-SW"
Yup, I saw Leviathn's A-20G pointing the other way on my FE, he had me dead (and I mean DEAD) in his sights on his FE.
Result: I flew more or less straight to gain speed, he hosed me down and got the kill. Was he cheating? Heck no, was just an internet hiccup.
All of the "cheating" sounds to me like just a really bad connect, more than an internet hiccup, more like a BURP........
:p
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Send the film to Hitech, let him decide.
For the record its not the first time topgunz has been accused of a hack. Last time it was me in the TA. I warned to log or I'd have HT watching for him and if they caught him he'd be banned.
Send an email to ronni@hitechcreations.com
Explain the situation and attach the film as an attachment. (no web space required)
They can tell if its net hiccup or hack.
Also for the record, twice in the past people HAVE hacked/cheated, none of em last long.
Hackers will ALWAYS get caught.
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Hi, everyone, the funny language you see below is in Norwegian.
It is easier for me this way.
Hei Jannerik, jeg har lest posten din flere ganger og jeg tror helt ærlig ikke at det har vært en Cheater,
Hovedgrunnen til dette er at Hitech og gjengen har en utrolig hard justis når det gjelder hackere, du gjør den minste forandring i programmet og , vips så er du ute , for godt.
Andre grunnen er netlag, det kan forårsake de rareste ting, jeg har flere ganger sett fly som har blitt skutt i fillebiter, de mistet begge vingene og halen, motoren brant, og i enkelte tilfeller halve fly som flyr rundt.
En P47 foreksempel, det var strengt tatt kun en motor og cockpit som fløy rundt i et flammehav, han hadde 8-10 findtlige i hælene hele tiden som traff ham kontinuerlig, sammenlagt så ble han sikkert truffet over 1000 ganger i løpet av 10 minutters tid, før han gikk poof.
Og han jukset ikke, alt forårsaket av netlag.
Så at han traff deg på over 6K (i henhold til din maskin) tviler jeg ikke på, hos han så kan du ha vært på 0.5K og alt virket naturlig.
Jeg så at du hadde hatt en del discos, noe som indikerer dårlig connection, samme hadde han, så hvis to individer med dårlig forbindelse treffer hverandre, så MÅ det bli noen avvik.
Jeg skal selvfølgelig ikke garantere at det ikke var en cheater, men sansynligheten er meget liten.
Folkene bak hitechcreations var jo de som laget Warbirds i sin tid, og jeg har spillt disse to simulatorene i nærmere 6 år nå, og har til dags dato kun hørt om 4 som har jukset, og disse kommer garantert ikke til å få konto her noen gang igjen.
Så gi det en sjangs til, ikke si opp kontoen, og jeg er sikker på at du vil storkose deg i lang tid fremover :D
Skulle du fremdeles være i tvil om det var en som jukset, så send filmen til Hitech & co, basert på filmen din så kan de faktisk finne ut om det var en som jukset eller om det var lag.
Det er det eneste du kan gjøre, og det mest effektive.
Det er ikke det lureste å være newbie og skrike cheater her inne, da blir du fort barbecue i flamefesten disse folka har på dine vegne ;)
Neste spørsmål, er du i en Squadron ?
Hvis ikke så er det altid en ledig plass i The Wild Vikings, AH`s eneste 100% Norske skvadron.
Du kan jo altids sende meg en mail hvis du er interesert: lasse@erga.as (PS! Vi flyr Rook)
Vi er en liten og uhøytidlig skvadron, som kun flyr for å ha det morro :)
Velkommen til Aces High
The Wild Vikings
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Commanding Officer
Lasse
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sigh...people been cheating on me since I started flying these damm things way back when. All started with that damm cheat book by shaw...personally I don't understand why anyone would publish something like that...but I went out and got my own copy:D ...course I still get killed all the time:mad: ....course I;m certain it couldnt be me...or my connect.....damm cheaters
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wel this is what i have done now .
I have sendt the film to someone for hosting , i sendt it to ronni or whatever his name is in AH for checking .
The to another question . Why is "lagg " cousing all this things ? If it does the netcode is to bad i have to say . I have played games from it first came out like
* doom
* duke nukem ( modem to modem )
* quake 1 and 2 ( internett )
* Halflife CS and DOD ( for the last 3 years )
* AO ( anarchy Online ) MMORP with alot of players
* MS flight sim
and many more . those games that have many players never seem to display wrong info , like this ...if you all say its coused by lagg then they realy shoud do something about the netcode . Cuz who want to fly to get perkpoints and if they up a 262 or a ar236 they may get a Spit in fire going backwards 20k behind then and get shot down .
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Ok I said I'd host this for him. I didn't look at it.
For the record I doubt it's anyone cheating, most likely lag/netstats judging from both stats on disco's thsi tour.
Anyway here it is
http://www.jblong.com\files\film13.zip
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It ain't the net code either Jannerik.
You ever heard of TCP? I'm sure either you or he, or both, were in that mode of transmission.
TCP means that if the packet didn't get there at first, it's gonna keep on trying until it arrives. If it arrives out of order, then you'll be seeing some strange things. Unlike UDP which is a one time deal.
Of course, if you knew about transmission protocols and how PCs communicate, your first assumption wouldn't of been cheating and instead you would of checked on your internet connection to make sure you have a clear, stable path to the Aces High server.
-SW
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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
It ain't the net code either Jannerik.
You ever heard of TCP? I'm sure either you or he, or both, were in that mode of transmission.
TCP means that if the packet didn't get there at first, it's gonna keep on trying until it arrives. If it arrives out of order, then you'll be seeing some strange things. Unlike UDP which is a one time deal.
Of course, if you knew about transmission protocols and how PCs communicate, your first assumption wouldn't of been cheating and instead you would of checked on your internet connection to make sure you have a clear, stable path to the Aces High server.
-SW
First of all i know what TCP and UDP is . second i check it and i was not on TCP .
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Jannerik, jeg får ikke svare på mailadressen din, får bare opp undeliverable ??
Så jeg svarer her istedenfor:
Ja, vi er 100% norske, antallet varierer litt, akkurat nå så er vi kun 3 som flyr aktivt, har vært oppe i 7 tidligere.
Hovedgrunnen til å ha squaden er å kunne samle noen norske å fly med da det er enkelt og greit å kunne snakke på norsk via mic, eller med tekstbuffer.
Vi har ingen bestemt tidspunkt vi flyr, når jeg fløy i Warbirds (før AH) så var skvadronen oppe i 32 medlemmer, og vi hadde fast skvadronkveld og samkjørte tokt med andre utelanske skvadroner, og det var skikkelig morro.
Men ulempen var at det tok så enormt mye tid å administrere squaden, med hjemmesider, forfremmelser, medaljer, mission rappors og alt det derre.(var rimeligt seriøse)
Så til slutt så sa jeg fra meg ansvaret der (wb), da AH var kommet ut og jeg likte meg bedre her inne.
Da startet jeg The Wild Vikings i AH også, og denne gangen skulle jeg holde det på det `useriøse` planet, med andre ord bruke tia på å fly, og ikke alt det derre administrasjons arbeidet.
Så hvis du vil joine så fikser vi det, og hvis ikke så ser jeg deg sikkert der inne før eller siden, uansett det er et konge spill dette her, og det blir bare bedre og bedre for hver oppdatering som kommer ut.
The Wild vikings
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Commanding Officer
Lasse
-----Original Message-----
From: Jann Erik Johansen [mailto:jann.erik.johansen@broadpark.no]
Sent: 23. juli 2002 20:06
To: lasse@erga.as
Subject: hei
takk for svaret på AH bb.
Jeg lurer litt på squaden deres da , den er 100 % norsk ? hvor mange er dere ? og flyr dere på
noen bestemte tidspunk osv...
Mvh Jann Erik
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Well, when you yourself admitted to having several discos... and your stats prove it. Then this fella has a whole lot of discos, and his stats prove it...
then wouldn't something tell you that it probably was just a combination of your poor connection and his poor connection, and not him cheating?
-SW
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
With 512 deaths, and 224 kills, I would imagine that Topgunz would have a better K/D ratio than THAT if indeed he was a hacker. ;)
Nuff said...
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umm, I checked that film just out of curiousity. did you start the
recording after you had one of your drones killed, or have you cut
the film? I can't find anything of what you're talking about on the
film. It starts off with you saying:
"and I have it recorded"
and jumping into Topgunz plane, it's very very choppy, surely looks
like lag. My opinion, no cheat...
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Originally posted by iceydee
umm, I checked that film just out of curiousity. did you start the
recording after you had one of your drones killed, or have you cut
the film? I can't find anything of what you're talking about on the
film. It starts off with you saying:
"and I have it recorded"
and jumping into Topgunz plane, it's very very choppy, surely looks
like lag. My opinion, no cheat...
i started record 2 sec after my plane was shot down , but u still see him hit me after that from 6.2 k u have to go to external view as fast as possible
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You didn't even start the film till after? And you are on the bbs whining about cheaters & that is best proof to offer?
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Originally posted by BigGun
You didn't even start the film till after? And you are on the bbs whining about cheaters & that is best proof to offer?
See the diddlying film , looks to me like this is the same situasjon Counter strike was a few years back, all denied cheats but still alot of player did cheat. AND STOP call me a whiner .
u see on the film that he shot me and hit from 6.2k thats impossible . and u see him get off me right after becouse i asked how he did that .
I bet u dont even downlaoded it and see it ..right ..........
I just hate cheaters alot and all of you make xuses makes me even more supisious .
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I have no idea if cheated or not. However, if i suspected someone of cheating, I would first have a film of the whole incident. Then, instead of coming on bbs & raising a big stink about it, i would simply email the film & my recollection of the event to HTC and have them look at it to determine if was cheat or not.
....You are turning into a true posting duffas..... (just read that line in another thread Hitech wrote) :)
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What kind of "cheat" could produce this behaviour?
If you can tell me Jannerik, maybe then you'll have more people sympathetic to your as-of-yet unfounded accusations.
-SW
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I was a "cheater" too tonight. I had a good flight with my squaddies and then suddenly as i wanted to engage a 190 at d4.3 "switch to TCP..."
The 190 comes into my sight very fast (way too fast - he was almost standing still) and i could shoot him easy!
BTW before the 190 could follow my squaddy so he must be very fast.
Got the kill tried to land but "Host connection lost"
My squaddy never sees me engaging this 190 and i could bet the 190 either.
So JANNERIK in my opinion this MUST be a connection problem and this time not on ur end but rather on his end.
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Originally posted by AKSWulfe
What kind of "cheat" could produce this behaviour?
If you can tell me Jannerik, maybe then you'll have more people sympathetic to your as-of-yet unfounded accusations.
-SW
Wel i dont look for cheats ,cuz i never ever cheats . But i have been a server admin for one of norways best Counter strike servers and i know what type of cheats there is in CS. I guess that if a game is popular , someone gonna try to make a cheat or 2 .
Lets see .
* 1 autoaim , coud be possible
* 2 Wallhack , IS possible i guess
* 3 Speed hack
and so on ... not hard to think what cheats coud be produced to this game .
Only thing i have a problem with is that blame it on the connection , wel if ALL or atleast alot of people have connection problems then the HOST is not good.
It dosent help that all here say/blame the connection when there coud be cheats out there. YOU players shoud be concerned about cheats and i woud never post this post if i hadnt any proof . view the film ... maybee it is connection this time ..BUT BE VERY CAREFULL ABOUT BLAMING CONNECTIONS for all who suspect a cheat .
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Only thing I can tell for sure from this film is that one of you had a very poor connection, Topgunz was warping badly. The proper way to have handled this would have been to quietly send the film to HTC.
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this is what happens when a company runs a game server on a isdn connection. i guess, like the graphics, sound and gameplay, that was cool in 1997 also. mehk
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Originally posted by JANNERIK
What are u afraid off ?
Is there any cheats to this game , or isnt it . wel i think it is .
Anyone that thinks this game hasn't been hacked, isn't being hacked presently, and won't continue to be hacked is a fool.
However, is this such an instance? I doubt it. Network burp of some sort is more likely.
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Wel i dont look for cheats ,cuz i never ever cheats . But i have been a server admin for one of norways best Counter strike servers and i know what type of cheats there is in CS. I guess that if a game is popular , someone gonna try to make a cheat or 2 .
Me either, but typically common sense (if you are a computer person) will point you to the answer. Don't cry cheat unless you are 100% positive, otherwise you create skeptics, not allies.
* 1 autoaim , coud be possible
Requires a certain algorithm to work. I don't believe it can work here since there is actually bullet trajectory and leading of the target required. Autoaim works well in Quake and CS because there is no bullet trajectory or need to lead.
* 2 Wallhack , IS possible i guess
That is more or less a clipping deal, and wouldn't be applicable in this game- except for ground vehicles.
* 3 Speed hack
This looks identical to warping and would not produce the situation you describe above and have in the film.
and so on ... not hard to think what cheats coud be produced to this game .
Actually it is, since you don't know how well the program is encrypted and what kind of checksums are built in to detect program alterations.
Only thing i have a problem with is that blame it on the connection , wel if ALL or atleast alot of people have connection problems then the HOST is not good.
Most people inside the states enjoy fairly good connections. Of course, you are in Norway and this would probably explain a majority of your connection problems.
It dosent help that all here say/blame the connection when there coud be cheats out there. YOU players shoud be concerned about cheats and i woud never post this post if i hadnt any proof . view the film ... maybee it is connection this time ..BUT BE VERY CAREFULL ABOUT BLAMING CONNECTIONS for all who suspect a cheat .
Actually, it's the other way around. It doesn't help to accuse someone of cheating when it could be a multitude of things having to do with internet connectivity. His connection, your connection, the host's traffic, bandwidth at your end/his end/host's end, routers, backbones, the list goes on and on. Your connection is only a small fraction of the process for internet play on a remote host located in another country.
So be careful, if you think it's a cheat... don't let that be your first and last assumption, ask him for a film. Ask his team mates or your team mates what they saw. Ask him what his net status looks like. Check out your net status. Ask your friendlies if you are warping. Ask them if he was warping.
For someone to cry cheat so quickly, it sure seems like you didn't do a lot of troubleshooting to ascertain the situation.
Wooty- let me know when whatever game you are playing reaches 400+ players every night on the same server.
-SW
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So? Get a Cessna 150 pointed into a strong headwind. Drop flaps and hold minimum maneuvering speed and you'll "zoom" backwards. Used to do it all the time :D
Beeg
Originally posted by AKSWulfe
I think if you understood how the internet works, how PCs communicate, and that the internet is one of the most unstable and unreliable pieces of technology that people have come to rely on... then you'd understand anything is possible in games over the internet without "cheating".
I've seen planes fly backwards.
-SW
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LOL, a friend of mines dad when we were kids took off in a Piper Cub with a decent headwind, took him an hour to get to the end of the runway :D ( SFO alternate emergency strip Half Moon Bay Airport )
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Originally posted by Beegerite
So? Get a Cessna 150 pointed into a strong headwind. Drop flaps and hold minimum maneuvering speed and you'll "zoom" backwards. Used to do it all the time :D
Beeg
Hahah what a crock very min speed is about 43
helluva headwind :D
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This cheater stuff is sooo old...
Ive spent well over 5 years playing in AW and now AH and theres always someone who says someone else is cheating. And the only thing I ever saw proven was the forcing of warps by prssing the 'take a picture' key in AW. and that was fixed pretty damn quick. (hmmm wonder if it'd work in AH.... lol)
I play from New Zealand so lag or latency is a definite concern. I usually have a ping round 300.
I know that I have lag, I allow for it... I get kills. (not a lot but my share...)
Norway prolly has a very similar environment network wise (actually should be faster given the cold...lol) so just get over it and adapt!
It isnt cheating! Period!
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This just happened to me the first time today.:( A Yak made a BnZ run on me, i evaded it (or so i thought), he flies off and i go boom 20 secs later. My netstat was fine, so his must have been bad.:(
Got it all on film, not just the bit where i scream WTF.:D
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Host is prob good in the states , but its not good to europeans . I know this was a big concern with AO ( anarchy Online). So why do AH take european customers IF they cant handle it ???
If this is a connection issue then the shoud get a better host for europeans or get a server for europe . Or they coud make it a game for only americans and those around them ( canadians and sutch) .
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"We have so many folks posting accusations on this BBS, yet not ONE has been proven to be a cheater yet."
ripsnort
Wrong and you know it. people have been caught and it has been proven. do a bbs search or ask mitsu. for just one instance. there are many others.
wont go into it but yea one type of hack is a joke to do . it is probly the most common because it is undetectable and has been discussed on this board befor.
do you guys ever thing about anything but blindly cheerleading. like truth or integrety ? shure as hell looks like you got your morals from "The Prince"
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They can handle European customers just fine. Many European people play here, it just so happens that somewhere between your house and the host, there's a toejamty link up. Or it's your ISP... hell it could be a half dozen problems congregating into one big problem- a toejamty connection to the AH server.
If the service is unacceptable, don't pay for it. Many European players, however, do find it acceptable... or atleast keep playing and paying for it.
As far as a European host, that requires hiring more people, buying another server, another ISP(European), another physical location for the server and new staff, and well... effectively triples (or more) the cost to run the business. Which in turn requires several hundred more paying/playing customers. And probably a price hike for the service too.
-SW
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
do you guys ever thing about anything but blindly cheerleading. like truth or integrety ? shure as hell looks like you got your morals from "The Prince"
Please draw the connection for me between Machiavelli and so-called false and corrupt cheerleading? I don't see it.
-- Todd/Leviathn
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
"We have so many folks posting accusations on this BBS, yet not ONE has been proven to be a cheater yet."
ripsnort
Wrong and you know it. people have been caught and it has been proven. do a bbs search or ask mitsu. for just one instance. there are many others.
wont go into it but yea one type of hack is a joke to do . it is probly the most common because it is undetectable and has been discussed on this board befor.
do you guys ever thing about anything but blindly cheerleading. like truth or integrety ? shure as hell looks like you got your morals from "The Prince"
Mitsu did in fact film someone cheating before. But that does not mean that just because someone sees something strange can automatically assume and accuse others of cheating. First, it shouldn't have been brought this bbs. Looks like emotional diatribe to me.
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"So why do AH take european customers IF they cant handle it ??? "
That's what the 2 week free trial is for. It seems many European players connects are tolerable enough for them to pay. It was suggested in your other thread that you do a ping plot. try it, post your results, maybe someone can help you.
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Originally posted by wooty
this is what happens when a company runs a game server on a isdn connection. i guess, like the graphics, sound and gameplay, that was cool in 1997 also. mehk
Aren't they having a 'Free Dweeb's Weekend' over at Fighter Ace? You better go check it out so you can be among your brethren.
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wooty the reason the connection is bad is because there are 4 times as many people playing AH then the 'other' sim on a weeknight
I speculate that there are some legal issues behind the reason of not getting the new pipe promised like 6 months ago
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"Mitsu did in fact film someone cheating before. But that does not mean that just because someone sees something strange can automatically assume and accuse others of cheating. First, it shouldn't have been brought this bbs. Looks like emotional diatribe to me."
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ok he said somthing that is patently false and provably so, he knows this is false and it is his purpose to misslead. it aint the first time also . saying that this means anyone can automaticaly assume and accuse others of cheating? where the hell did i say that? its your comment not mine please answer what i say not what your twisted perspective thinks im sayin . you accuse me of a emotional diatribe while twisting my words and insulting me ?
what i said was true, provable and i stand buy it .
ill skip the insults they are self evedent.
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I have seen planes turning at impossible angles and shooting another.
I believe that is has something to do with the airstrip bug, which ever way the pilot looks his plane seems to rotate correspondingly.
Heck, I even had a Tank take-off behind me once! It suddenly converted to a plane about half way down the runway.:)
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I am also in Norway, so is every one in my squadron, all of us have a steady ping at 150-170 ms, that aint that bad is it ?
I disco at an average 2 times a month, sometimes a couple more, other times no discos, whatsoever.
Yesterday I discoed (as I posted about), and could not get in for over an hour, that is the first time ever has happened to me.
Normally when I disco, I can get right in again.
I believe you main problem is your ISP, du you have any possibillities to try another one ?
When I played on ISDN I had a steady connection, 180 ms at an average, now I play on SDSL, and have excelent connection 99,9% of the time :D
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PS!!
WOOTY, forgotten to take your medication again ?
Baad boy, go to you room :mad:
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Trust me, Topgunz does not cheat ;)
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Originally posted by lord dolf vader
"Mitsu did in fact film someone cheating before. But that does not mean that just because someone sees something strange can automatically assume and accuse others of cheating. First, it shouldn't have been brought this bbs. Looks like emotional diatribe to me."
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ok he said somthing that is patently false and provably so, he knows this is false and it is his purpose to misslead. it aint the first time also . saying that this means anyone can automaticaly assume and accuse others of cheating? where the hell did i say that? its your comment not mine please answer what i say not what your twisted perspective thinks im sayin . you accuse me of a emotional diatribe while twisting my words and insulting me ?
what i said was true, provable and i stand buy it .
ill skip the insults they are self evedent.
Not your diatribe, the original posters. He is the one that is accusing topgunz of cheating without any evidence of it. Plus, he is using the worng forum. He went off because he was shot down by the guy (emotional diatribe).
You said--do you guys ever thing about anything but blindly cheerleading. like truth or integrety ? shure as hell looks like you got your morals from "The Prince"
I agree that there is alot of accusations slung out in this forum of cheater that are not proven. Mitsu's was the exception. Rip is saying that it happens way too often and should not be handled this way. I agree. He is only mistaken in that there was one incident that we know turned out to be true (mitsu's). Its not blind cheerleading, its just not good to throw out accusations like the original poster did.
I didnt insult you.
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my appologys. truly
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Gentlemen,
I must humblely accept the blame for all this.
I have been cheating ever since I started this game.
I truely appologize to all of you.
I cheat in so many ways... it's hard to keep track of how I do it.
I must confess, I knew ACM techinques long before I started flying online sims. These were taught to me by the USAF.
I've unfairly used this knowledge against you all.
I cheated by reading Shaw's book and employing the knowledge there in.
I've practiced offline, rather than online.
I am so ashamed, because I even cheat by taking the head on shots.
Yes, I'm a shameful HO.
I just never give the other guy a chance, I sneak when I can, I always attack with an altitude advantage.
I even have hardware that allows me to cheat. I purchased a super fast computer, high end graphics card, and reliable cable internet access- just so I could win.
None of you have a chance against me.
I am truely sorry for cheating... but I can't help my self.
It's so much fun to watch you all explode in a ball of flames.
Sadly, I must admit I will never stop cheating.
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A guy called me a cheater the other day when I ran away from his NIK2 when I was already engaged with a 110. When he turned around I came back and shot him.
It was the best complement I have ever received in AH.
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Originally posted by F4UDOA
It was the best complement I have ever received in AH.
Just wait untill you've been accused of cheating by a AH Vet that, untill the time it happened, you had respect for. I still would if he would have even tried to apologise after he was proven wrong.
A Noob calling you a cheat is just a Noob calling you a cheat, a Vet, who should know better, that does the same is truly complementing you by his lack of restraint :D
M3 cheater deeeeeluxxx :cool:
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Originally posted by Vortex
Anyone that thinks this game hasn't been hacked, isn't being hacked presently, and won't continue to be hacked is a fool.
However, is this such an instance? I doubt it. Network burp of some sort is more likely.
most probably.
but, who would want to cheat in this game anyways?
I wouldn't pay $15 a month to cheat...
I was once suspecting a cheat. someone flooded my computer so it
froze and I lost connection. But I didn't care much about it. I'm not
even sure if that person was playing AH or if he had just picked my
comp for another reason... restarted the computer again and got back
into AH thinking that I would most probably have lost the fight I was
in anyways. :D :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by iceydee
most probably.
but, who would want to cheat in this game anyways?
I wouldn't pay $15 a month to cheat...
Alas, that I cannot answer. The entire idea of "winning" something without actually achieving anything, and that being somehow desirable, has always escaped me. The mind of an incompetent is indeed a difficult thing to understand :->
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lol,
each forum have her own Pietas;)
whats the point, half year ago when im play wb one night login guy who start fighting aginst my squad members on MA.
He come first time to online combat simulator from Counterstrike, mostly he was dwn by all of my squad members, he dont know how to turn correct, how to attack, and make strange manuvres. He cant hit anyone, cant even make any classic defence manuvres like scissors or yo-yo. He dont know nothing about sim slange, datas of plane etc, real new bie.
After this night on our BB he call us cheaters, and call all the time until im show him how to flight, fight, aim.
I advice him to stop play on 2 buttos stick, and buy new one with rudder and more precise.
And mirracle, he start killing!!!!, and stop call us cheaters:)
anyway after 3-4 monts he discover ACM:) and correct spelling, he finde a technical datas about planes and....
and start teach us how to fight!!!!!!!
Most of my friends play wb 2-3 years, know more then him.
He was so briliant ;) if he try to pattent a round im not suprised;)
dear JANNERIK, pls play online more then month before u call somone cheater.
All looks like connection problems
If u cant fly like more expirience "energy hunters" dont call him chaters. Lern more about ACM, tactics, hunting, connection.
Lots of players here have huge expirience, and cane dwn u and fly away like lightning
with respect
ramzey
ps. sry for my english, im practice all the time;)
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Originally posted by X2Lee
Hahah what a crock very min speed is about 43
helluva headwind :D
Hmmm....been a while since I've flown a 150, but if memory serves me correctly, full dirty stall speed was around 35
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Ok,
Guys Let him go back to DOOM & QUAKE as his network connection is perfect and he understands how lagg effects his connection, SO it must be a Cheat,:D
As for the connections form Europe I do not have any problem, so I would suggest that you Check your ISP:
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PS: HiTech is THE PUTZ!
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Originally posted by DamnedCoach
Hmmm....been a while since I've flown a 150, but if memory serves me correctly, full dirty stall speed was around 35
Yup, flew a 150 backwards for 20 miles once, it was a real gas :)
Shamus
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I blow up alot of GVs and just seems odd that certain people are damn near impossible to kill .
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U KNOW Jannerik i just figured this bb stuff today and i think every 1 has spoken better than i could .that day i shot your b26s down , 1 ,26 was in the air and two were still in the water off the coast , i killed 1 of the drones ,put the rest of the rounds in the other no more rounds . but i started firin at 700 not 6.2 or whatevr it was u saw .ive got kids n friends who play also .so quit smokin that stuff . u suck!!!!!!!:)dude!!!!! i try to keep it cool cuz my kids r always around.they like watchin. im not in it for the cheat im in it for the fun!!!they dont need to see poor sportsmanship like that.
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Please pass the cheese.
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I never used to believe in cheating or hacks until just the other night. I was happily cruising along in a bomber stream @ 35k, groovin' on the radio, and this civilian Super-Decathlon comes streakn' down @ 600kts! He hoses my lead airship,, and zips past at warp speed, doing these neat looking aileron snap-rolls? So what gives? Should I send this genuine, unretouched photo to HT?(http://www.vtxpress.com/rv6/bomber-formation.jpg)
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All LVT drivers are cheaters! LOL their traces go always absolutely somewhere else and still my plane keeps falling apart... lol
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Originally posted by rv6
I never used to believe in cheating or hacks until just the other night. I was happily cruising along in a bomber stream @ 35k, groovin' on the radio, and this civilian Super-Decathlon comes streakn' down @ 600kts! He hoses my lead airship,, and zips past at warp speed, doing these neat looking aileron snap-rolls? So what gives? Should I send this genuine, unretouched photo to HT?
Golly-geen it How the hell did you turn those 'on hit debris particle emiters' ON? :D freakin cheaters all around me... :D LOL
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thanks for the picture , Yes your right that does say it all. doesnt he say that he would take a refund for his acc. dude i wish i was smart enuf to be ahacker .i wish i could take it as a compliment (cheater) but comin from him . well.. theres always tom.. thx. Top Gunz.. " keep an eye on him". cool pic dude
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