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General Forums => Aircraft and Vehicles => Topic started by: faminz on July 23, 2002, 05:17:38 PM

Title: anyone for the japanese jet?
Post by: faminz on July 23, 2002, 05:17:38 PM

I seriously doubt hitech would ever model this but the pic looks nice eh? (Its a Nakajima Kikka not a 262 for those unable to tell the diff).

Title: anyone for the japanese jet?
Post by: Mitsu on July 23, 2002, 05:31:23 PM

hmmm I'd like to see J7W Shinden than japanese jet. :D

Title: anyone for the japanese jet?
Post by: brady on July 23, 2002, 05:49:58 PM

Too bad they dident see action:(

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Post by: Shiva on July 23, 2002, 06:07:33 PM

Oh, come on; I can understand people confusing the Me-262 and the Nakajima Ki-201 Karyu, which was almost a direct copy of the 262:

(http://j-aircraft.org/xplanes/hikoki_graphics/karyu.jpg)

But I don't see how someone could confuse the Kikka with the 262:

(http://j-aircraft.org/xplanes/hikoki_graphics/Kikka03.jpg)

(http://www.aerospaceweb.org/aircraft/fighter/me262/me262_schem_01.gif)

Title: anyone for the japanese jet?
Post by: faminz on July 23, 2002, 06:33:50 PM

you really dont eh Shiva....

hmmm methinks you overestimate the average intelligence of an AH participant.....

and to Mitsu... I agree. But I liked this pic.....

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Post by: JoeDirt on July 23, 2002, 07:13:18 PM

wasap...my nikka!

wheres the guns???

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Post by: Pooh21 on July 24, 2002, 01:54:11 AM

blech looks like they took a poor 262 and whacked it with the ugly stick a few times.

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Post by: fdiron on July 24, 2002, 04:06:34 AM

Jap jet had crappy performance.

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Post by: Wotan on July 24, 2002, 05:00:52 AM

(http://www.ne.jp/asahi/airplane/museum/cl-pln/images2/Hayate3.jpg)

this is what we need

Title: anyone for the japanese jet?
Post by: Samm on July 24, 2002, 06:47:34 AM

We allready have a p51d !

If you wan't to add a japanese plane that didn't see production then add the ki83 .

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Post by: Seeker on July 24, 2002, 06:55:58 AM

Didn't they make not only a 262 copy, but also a 163 too?

And of course the Osaka (sp?); the kamikazee manned missile....



But if we're really looking for some oriental fantasy planes, I think the coolest would be the Shiniden (not sure of name); the canard winged pusher prop Superfort interceptor. At least it would be some thing reallly different; and I do believe (not sure) that it actually flew...

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Post by: CDR Akira on July 24, 2002, 08:15:40 AM

If we had that we might as well get the suicide v1 and the wing mounted v1 for Ju-88s and the Ju-52 could be added then the Me-163,Ki-84,A6M2-N,P-82 twin mustang,P-61 black widow,Hawker Sea fury,B-29,A-26,PBY-2,P2Y-B,Gostler Gladiator,F8F,F7F,and so on until AH is in the korea campaine it would be insane H-bombs going off everywere


And now that be a lesson to us all wanting to much in short times once we get one plane we want more and more

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Post by: Shiva on July 24, 2002, 10:25:30 AM

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Didn't they make not only a 262 copy, but also a 163 too?

The Mitsubishi J8M Shusui, the sole surviving example of which is in the Planes of Fame Museum near Chino, California:

(http://j-aircraft.org/xplanes/hikoki_graphics/shusui10.jpg)

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And of course the Osaka (sp?); the kamikazee manned missile....

The Yokosuka MXY7 Ohka:

(http://j-aircraft.org/xplanes/hikoki_graphics/model22_01.jpg)

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But if we're really looking for some oriental fantasy planes, I think the coolest would be the Shiniden (not sure of name); the canard winged pusher prop Superfort interceptor. At least it would be some thing reallly different; and I do believe (not sure) that it actually flew...

The Kyushu J7W Shinden.  Two prototypes were built, although only the first one flew, with a total of only 45 minutes of flying time. One of the two prototypes was destroyed when the factory was bombed; the other is at the Garber restoration facility in Maryland:

(http://j-aircraft.org/xplanes/hikoki_graphics/shinden.jpg)

If you want to go with the Shinden, however, why not go for the J7W2 version, which replaced the Mitsubishi MK9D (Ha-53) radial engine with an Ne-130 turbojet:

(http://j-aircraft.org/xplanes/hikoki_graphics/J7W2.jpg)

Or the projected 'Shinden-Kai', which would have modified the airframe beyond simply replacing the engine, to eliminate design features not necessary with the jet engine (i.e., the long landing gear to allow the propellor to clear the ground) and a redesigned cockpit:

(http://j-aircraft.org/xplanes/hikoki_graphics/shinden_kai.jpg)