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General Forums => Aces High General Discussion => Topic started by: senna on July 24, 2002, 04:47:51 AM
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Wasnt sure where to put this post so here it goes anyways. What do you all think about AH in terms of game or sim to you. Is AH a game or a sim to you. To me when I first started, I thought it was an awsome sim. These days I feel its more a game than a sim. It could have changed in FM or something or I just got used to it and want more sim/realism qualities but I feel these days its more a game (not that that a bad thing up to a point though). If I want a shooter upper, I'll go and play Castle Wofenstien online or MechWarrior 4 or whatever is new and great thats out now. So in my IMO, AH today is more a game and if thats the case then maybe someday we could see the Graph Zeppelin carrier and the 109T and some luftwaffe 46 or other stuff that didnt exist or was very rare during world war II. Heck if its a game, we can have it all then with little restrictions. Right?
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It's both.
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MA is a game.
SEA is a simulation.
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they are trying to make war fun, so it can only be a game.
Yet every game comes with a goal (I think this games goal is field capture).
Thus I believe the real question is:
How many are playing the game, how many are just gaming the game?
:D
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I like to refer to it as an sim, but I believe it actually is 50% of each.
Personally I would prefer a bit more tecnical stuff, bombsight stuff in 1.10 was a big improvement IMO :)
Arcade sims is plentiful out there, lets keep AH a notch above those others, please.
Lasse
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Dogfight sim with game element
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Definitely a game.
Texas Air Aces is a sim :)
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It's a PC game, a simulator is a machine that is a training tool for pilots .
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I always refer to it as a hobby....keeps people from thinking that I'm wasting my time playing a game.:)
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I consider it both. In the Main Arena it's definitely a game, while
the Combat Theater and special events it's more of a simulation.
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AH is safer than Crack!
Masher
It's addictive though
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Who cares?
Just fly it and have fun, calling it a sim doesnt make it any less fun, calling it a game doesnt make it any less challenging. I think people get on a high horse sometimes and have to confirm their own addiction, and sooth their ego, by saying one is more game like than another. It doesnt matter as long as your enjoying yourself.
In the end it's not important, nobody is going to die, not get qualified, or have their career ruined by how they fly in this on-line program or any other like IL-2 or Warbirds.
Anybody who doesnt fly/play this sim/game or any other, think we're all a bunch of nuts anyway.:D
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It’s a game, it’s been a game, it will always be a game. It’s just not an arcade game. It could be a simulation though. I’m fairly confident that if placed in the situation where I had to fly a P51 or an F4U I could, with ease, take off destroy my target and gently land at the same airfield that I took off from.
If you want a simulation, fly a TOD.
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Originally posted by Zippatuh
It’s a game, it’s been a game, it will always be a game. It’s just not an arcade game. It could be a simulation though. I’m fairly confident that if placed in the situation where I had to fly a P51 or an F4U I could, with ease, take off destroy my target and gently land at the same airfield that I took off from.
If you want a simulation, fly a TOD.
This is where I have the advantage. I have no doubt I could jump in the cockpit of any WWII fighter and my AH skillset will transfer 100%.
I have the whole crash and burn thing down to a science.
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it is a game that uses simulated WWII aircraft.
lazs
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I beleive this program to be a simulation (albeit with some adjustments for use on a pc) of air combat using WWII aircraft. I would not call this a simulator such as those used for training pilots in real life. I beleive also that it can be and is used as a game with the goal of capturing enough fields for your team (country) to win some extra perks.
It is enough of a simulation to me to help assuage the feelings of dissapointment at never having been able to finish my flight training. It is enough of a game to me to give me a goal to strive for when simulating flying :)
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it's Real Life, the other 23 hours in the day are a simulated game :)
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one heck of a good game
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Game (or "Relaxed Realism") in the Main.
Simulation in the Special Events (Particularly Tour of Duty)
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To me, its a sim. The flight physics and such are really quite nice.
And, the immersion/addiction is amazing.
If it were just a "game" to me, I'd really expect more razzle dazzle in the graphics, etc etc. There are a lot of things games like Falcon 4 and others have that Aces High does not in regards to textures, weather, effects, etc. But, Aces High has about 300 players online whenever I log on to fly. I think JetNet (Falcon 4 online servers) had 6 or so.
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Its a Sim on Friday nights from 11:00- 1:00 EDT, then it gets gamey :)
-Sikboy
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Samm, Lowe and Laz have it right.
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It simulates flight, gunnery and air combat. It's a simulator in the loosest of terms... if it simulated every nuance of flight (pre-flight procedures, etc), then it would be a full blown simulation.
-SW
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It's a simulation game.
A game genre that takes most of its important elements from real world experiences and recreating it upon a personal computer within boundaries of 'game play'. The fun factor for this particular genre is in providing people with second-hand experience of a intense real-life event, occupation, or machinery which is usually too dangerous for people to enjoy first-hand. In effect, take the real life intensity and competiton, and excitement and leave behind the dangers of it.
Thus, the main criteria/agenda for a "simulation game" genre is "reality", or rather, "recreation and rearrangement of realities". Therefore, how the producers wish to recreate and rearrange the realities into a certain form greatly effects this genre, but usually they do it in the form of 'as realistic as possible'.
The main reason to why a producer would not choose to EXACTLY recreate reality is usually from technical/mechanical limits. Another reason is gameplay. But usually when realism and gameplay happen to oppose each other, the priority goes to realism. This is because the characteristics of this genre derives directly from the concept of simulated realism. It is a hard and delicate balance to maintain for most producers.
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The thing is a simulation of a game....or something
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AH is as much of a game to me, as Falcon 4.0 is a simulation.
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Game.
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Depends in what context you use the word sim.
In the gaming world:
It is a Online PC game that falls within the Flight simulation genre
just as Medal of honour is a PC game that falls within the FPS genre.
In the context of real world flight you have to ask the question:
'does it simulate anything that could help in real flight/air combat?'
if the answer is yes, then that would class it as a sim (a very basic one).
if the answer is a strict no, then it is just a game to pass the time.
I dont fly so I cant say if it is or isn't. :)
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It's a religion. :D
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As usually happens my wife pops her head into my home-office and asks "are you playing your game again?"
I try to convince her I am playing a simulation and keeping my piloting skills intact, she justs laughs.
God I hate it when she is right.
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I tried to think of Air Warrior as an air combat simulation, but really it was just a game with additional elements of strategy. Aces High added even more elements and more challenge and more strategy, but its still just a game. As soon as my Aces High score becomes a requirement for flight certification, then it will become a simulation ;)
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It's a game to while away idle hours that could be used in more fruitfull ways. Any other opinion just indicates that the opinion holder is in serious need of a life. :rolleyes:
:D :D :D :D :D :p
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Originally posted by BUG_EAF322
Dogfight sim with game element
I would say the exact same thing. Only opposite :D
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Originally posted by Zippatuh
It’s a game, it’s been a game, it will always be a game. It’s just not an arcade game. It could be a simulation though. I’m fairly confident that if placed in the situation where I had to fly a P51 or an F4U I could, with ease, take off destroy my target and gently land at the same airfield that I took off from.
If you want a simulation, fly a TOD.
hehe I m fairly certain that with no real stick time you'd come back in a box. :cool:
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It's a science project.
yer all rats.
AH and the new strat is the maze..
getting a reset is the cheeze.
How yah doin?
;)
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AH is a Game first and a sim 2nd.
-------- HiTech
Its hard to argue with the guy building the game.
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It is a cheap substitute for Cocaine!!!!!!!!
"Hi my name is DsrtRat, I have a problem" (twich twich, looking for AH fix, twich twich! Oh no, cable down. Try neighbours place. Whole neighbourhood out. OK don't panic, busher, manybeers,seabass and escafe only 1 hour away. Yeah thats it, ill drive there. Nooooooooo, too drunk to drive again.)
"DAMN YOU, DAMN YOU ALL TO HELL!!!!! THAT WAS OUR PLANET!"
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Originally posted by Blank
Depends in what context you use the word sim.
In the gaming world:
It is a Online PC game that falls within the Flight simulation genre
just as Medal of honour is a PC game that falls within the FPS genre.
In the context of real world flight you have to ask the question:
'does it simulate anything that could help in real flight/air combat?'
if the answer is yes, then that would class it as a sim (a very basic one).
if the answer is a strict no, then it is just a game to pass the time.
I dont fly so I cant say if it is or isn't. :)
AH is officially recognized by the Air Force Academy. The "Raptor" squadron consists entirely of Cadets. A group of them functioned as command staff for allies during at least one scenario.
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I'm with Sandman on this one. It is a religion. When my internet connection goes on the fritz, I'm thinking of suicide bombing my provider for depriving me of 15-20 minutes of holy time! :mad:
Further, if I am successful, I get to play AH for eternity against 1,000 virgin pilots! Vulch fest time! :D
Praise Hitech.
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Yes.
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Aces High is a service to humanity.:D
For some it is a game/sim/religion. For me it is fun because it is a challenge.
Les
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It's a game that I try to make a simulation... or something like that.
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It could be nearly a simulation, but 85% of us are playing it mostly like a game.