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Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Hening on July 24, 2002, 10:22:36 AM
Last night our squad attempted to use the TA to work on bombing skills.  I periodically posted a message on 100, "Please do not engage Lancasters in training".  Earlier in the day I was working on a training plan and was attacked by a 262 and then accidently rammed by same after asking the pilot to please stay away.  Must have been a fighter pilot from China?

At one point, a pilot aptly named "Turkey" told me to shut-up and stop broadcasting the fact that we did not wish to be engaged.  Meanwhile a pilot named Afalcon shot down one of our numbers.  The logic presented to us by the idiots in attendance was that we were bombing their field (in fact we were bombing factories) and the they would bomb our headquarters if we didn't stop our bomb runs.

It's obvious that there were some special needs people in the TA.  The question begs to be asked of why no one is there to oversee what goes on?  How about a chance to report these disruptive orafices so they can be locked out of what is supposed to be a safe spot to train?  The TA does not appear to be designed for slope browed dimwits to come in and attack people trying to invest valuable time training.  Or is it?  Perhaps these loud mouth twits that look for dates at family reunions could possibly be limited to the MA where you are supposed to shoot people down, or would the fact that people shoot back create too much of a distraction?

Hening
880 FAA
Title: The short bus . . . .
Post by: Arfann on July 24, 2002, 10:49:35 AM
. . . . . been making a direct run to the TA for a long time. Maladroits who can't get a kill in the playpen (MA) and certainly don't stand a chance against the elitists in the CT ;)  go to the TA to be noticed and see their name in lights. The logical solution to keep it a pure training environment is to disable damage and collisions.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Ripsnort on July 24, 2002, 11:03:50 AM
AH TA is a joke, one of the reasons I left the Training corp (Lack of Trainer authority to eject those individuals like Turkey that don't abide by the rules)

When our squad trains in there, we quietly go to a corner where we hopefully will not be noticed..and if we are, we assign a couple of "Squad cappers" that take care of any intrusions.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: LePaul on July 24, 2002, 11:05:41 AM
Yeah, that's happened to me many-a-time.  You declare that you are TRAINING and not engaging...no use, you still get attacked and the same ole same ole happens again.

From what I can see, Hening, there are no consequences.  No one monitors that room, and if you do go through the hassle to film or report it, some other moron does the same thing.

Thing is, with bombers and such, you want to train over an enemy base to see damage, etc...you can't do that on friendly turf in a remote corner of your own map.

TA is the alternate MA.  When the MA goes down, do they hit the CT?  Heck no.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Squire on July 24, 2002, 11:38:38 AM
Had the same troubles in the Warbirds Training Arena from time to time. AH has a larger player base though, and so there are that many more "little boys" to deal with who cant buy a kill in a regular arena, so they go to TA to be "noticed". How special. Trouble is, I think HTC would end up spending 1/2 their time sending out warning emails and reviewing films to even try to make a dent in the problem. We really need TA monitors with some clout. Oh well, it will never happen.

All you TA lurkers if you are reading this: You are the biggest dweebs in the entire sim world. Go play X-Wing by Lucasarts and leave us be when we train. Losers.

Cheers.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: rickod on July 24, 2002, 11:52:44 AM
check this post and you will see that this is a problem that has existed and been ignored for awhile now

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=53560)
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Superfly on July 24, 2002, 12:29:21 PM
Of course, you could always email a film/screenshot of said people or even call HTC (if it's during business hours) to take action against the perpetrators.  But that's just crazy talk. :rolleyes:
btw, posting screenshots/films on the message board is no guarantee that anyone from HTC will see it.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: AKDejaVu on July 24, 2002, 12:36:29 PM
and how many times should people have to do that Superfly?  The TA has been anything but a training arena for a few months now.  I'm curious as to why HTC would allow that to become the status quo.

AKDejaVu
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Yeager on July 24, 2002, 12:50:39 PM
Yes.....

The training arena has evolved into its own little MA.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Skyfoxx on July 24, 2002, 12:52:13 PM
I have film of the entire incident. I will be forwarding it to my CO this evening to use or forward as he see's fit.


Thanks
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: BD on July 24, 2002, 01:06:43 PM
How about just disabling radar and dar bars in the TA?  Then it would be easier to hide from the dweebs, while you could still communicate privately about your location with those you want to train with.

Seems like the dweebs would disappear if they can't find anyone to play with
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: LePaul on July 24, 2002, 01:08:04 PM
Superfly

Problem is its not just ONE, its MANY.  Report one, fine, then send film...then its another, then another, and another, etc.  After having to report someone a few times, its a hassle.  

The room needs some sort of moderator(s) to help it be what its intended to be...a place to practice.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Squire on July 24, 2002, 01:18:34 PM
Exactly. We will end up sending freaking films to HTC every time we have a session there.

Anyways, I will be forwarding the film that Skyfox refers to, and we will see, for what its worth.

Btw I logged into the arena the other night to see the country channel full of remarks like "cons at A9" ect ect...absolutely total disregard for the TA setup.

Regards.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: JoeDirt on July 24, 2002, 02:06:36 PM
i'll mod it? :)
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Aurelius on July 24, 2002, 02:25:18 PM
Skyfoxx please email me the film. Thanks
support@hitechcreations.com
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Creamo on July 24, 2002, 02:35:27 PM
My problem is LePaul works at UPS and was shameless happy about a union contract settlement raise to $7/hr, while posting he was going to put in a electronic EFIS package on his homebuilt jet powered aircraft. (Can that be the same guy? I get confused and apologize in advance)

Now I don’t work for the ATF, nor the IRS, but someone well informed in the government obvious dept. ought to bust this drug smuggler before he puts more drugs into our children's playgrounds.

Oh, and crack down on them TA trouble bandits too. The sumsqueakes. But first kick AKDega off the message board again  before he poses more stupid questions.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: LePaul on July 24, 2002, 02:44:03 PM
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Originally posted by Creamo
My problem is LePaul works at UPS and was shameless happy about a union contract settlement raise to $7/hr, while posting he was going to put in a electronic EFIS package on his homebuilt jet powered aircraft. (Can that be the same guy? I get confused and apologize in advance)

Now I don’t work for the ATF, nor the IRS, but someone well informed in the government obvious dept. ought to bust this drug smuggler before he puts more drugs into our children's playgrounds.

Oh, and crack down on them TA trouble bandits too. The sumsqueakes. But first kick AKDega off the message board again  before he poses more stupid questions.



LOL!  Cream Pufff!  

Few points...

1)  I make $9 an hour at UPS and have full benefits...Health, Dental, Eye, Prescription as part of my belonging to the Teamsters.  With the new raise, I think I'll gain another .48 cents an hour in a few weeks...I havent seen the master agreement yet, but I think my next raise (next June) is still .50 cents.  I aint making $7.  That's what those part time, non union Fed Ex guys get  ;)

2)  I recently sold the BD-5 and never had a chance to put a glass cockpit into it.  The only thing glass that made it into the cockpit was a "Molson Golden" or two  :D

As for AkDejaVu....what can I say.  The village called, they want their idiot back  :D :p :)  JK!
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: gofaster on July 24, 2002, 02:45:46 PM
H2H.

Its the only way to control your environment.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Creamo on July 24, 2002, 02:46:47 PM
I make $9 an hour at UPS

I'm sorry.

Really.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Skyfoxx on July 24, 2002, 03:54:38 PM
Will do Aurelius.

Thanks
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Superfly on July 24, 2002, 04:35:12 PM
Well, I have to work on development all day, so I don't ever really go into that arena.  However, Aurelius moderates it when he is working.  We can't have someone there 24/7, so sending us film is the best way to go about it.  We've got lives outside of HTC you know?  I think we've tried to have players moderate before, but the power went to their heads.  Some people just can't handle the power of the dark side.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Hangtime on July 24, 2002, 04:39:16 PM
give me the power.

i'll kick all them sumnabeeteches outta there.

:D
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Yoda on July 24, 2002, 04:45:21 PM
Once you've started down the dark path, forever will it dominate your destiny!

You must unlearn what you have learned. :eek:
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Toad on July 24, 2002, 04:46:47 PM
Superfly, I am your father........wheeeeze....who osh...wheeze...whoosh.....
;)
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Gloves on July 24, 2002, 05:01:07 PM
My squad trains in TA from time to time against another squad.  We may have been the ones stating cons at a9 the other night as we use the same phrases in TA that we use in MA, but we only engage those that want us to engage them.  

I liked BD's idea of turning off the dar bars.  Makes sense if they can't find ya, they can't shoot at ya.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Puck on July 24, 2002, 05:39:36 PM
Recruit BOFH type system admins to moderate it.

No, really.

Just ask Skuzzy.  We'd make GREAT moderators.  Just have to live up to the standard Simon set.

:D :D :D :D

Clickity-click.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Hortlund on July 24, 2002, 06:41:44 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Toad
...wheeeeze....whoosh...wheeze...whoosh.....


Ahh...so here is the answer to the age old question "what is the sound of one hand typing (while the other one is killing a kitten)...
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: LePaul on July 25, 2002, 09:00:08 AM
Superfly

Sigh.

We KNOW you can't be there 24/7...but the violations continue.  Surely you can persuade some folks to be moderators...just be wary of guys with red light sabers  :D
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Arfann on July 25, 2002, 11:53:17 AM
"TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For? "

Absolutely nothin' (say it again!)


Sorry, couldn't help myself.
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: Turbot on July 25, 2002, 12:24:36 PM
Damn thought this was a TA 152 thread :p
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: X2Lee on July 25, 2002, 05:30:02 PM
Quote
Originally posted by SUPERFLY
Well, I have to work on development all day, so I don't ever really go into that arena.  However, Aurelius moderates it when he is working.  We can't have someone there 24/7, so sending us film is the best way to go about it.  We've got lives outside of HTC you know?  I think we've tried to have players moderate before, but the power went to their heads.  Some people just can't handle the power of the dark side.


Why cant u disable damage like in AW? Let the bombers bomb and hits show, just no damage. Let the fighters fight and no damage....  No damage, no kills, no joy for the babies.. Still plenty of training though, perhaps even better quality...  let the kill show to the parties involved just dont record them on landing or on the stats.    ;)
Title: TA Huh, Good God Ya'll What's It Good For?
Post by: jededii on July 27, 2002, 09:11:19 AM
It seems a bit odd to me that the Dweebs from the TA the other night arent posting any replies about vulching 880 sqn. Do these people even know how to read and write. Is it possible that illiteracy is the reason that they don't know the TA rules???:rolleyes: