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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Wlfgng on July 24, 2002, 05:10:29 PM
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wtf?
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lol!
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Heheh...I guess I'm not the only one that's having problems with it.
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btw..
cannabis isn't nearly the health/danger/problem that booze is.
how many people beat up their spouces while stoned?
I, like udie, predict burning tonight.
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Originally posted by Wlfgng
btw..
cannabis isn't nearly the health/danger/problem that booze is.
how many people beat up their spouces while stoned?
I, like udie, predict burning tonight.
how can you predict a CURRENT event? :D :D :D
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Too bad we lost the thread. I thought we were all making eloquent points, but I can't remember for sure...
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What thread man?
Where'd I put those Twinkies?
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What were we talking about? or I mean, what was I about to say... mmmmmmm twinkies drueeeeeeeeeeeel
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roflmao
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roflmao
tard!!! you are in an earlier time zone !!!
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I remember now..
we were talking about who's house to .. uh..
damn 'users' posting double posts
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Everything is still there..You are all suffering from a perfectly abnormal paranoid delusionary episode. Hey! I told you so :D
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wtf...it won't let me open page two of the thread. Quick, somebody make sure nobody called me any names. Oh well, sp00k,
was a good discussion while it lasted:)
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me thinks HTC doesn't like it when you get carried away with justifying an ILLEGAL activity on their bbs.
Why don't you try posting here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&group=rec.drugs.cannabis
Less argument there as they forget day to day what they said :)
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Originally posted by Eagler
me thinks HTC doesn't like it when you get carried away with justifying an ILLEGAL activity on their bbs.
HTC helps you practice flying JU 88s over London.
they might as well put out a bong simulator.
speaking of which...i wonder if Kurt Tank ever made a bong...
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Originally posted by Eagler
me thinks HTC doesn't like it when you get carried away with justifying an ILLEGAL activity on their bbs.
Speak for yourself, I live in Amsterdam........
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
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Originally posted by Swoop
Speak for yourself, I live in Amsterdam........
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
the location of this server makes it an ILLEGAL activity
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Originally posted by Swoop
Speak for yourself, I live in Amsterdam........
(http://www.boomspeed.com/swoop/logo_small.jpg)
you lucky tard ! I dont even remeber where i live, let me see ?? ahh prolly got a map in my car.
wtf the car is gone, or did i park it somwhere else ? !!!
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"the location of this server makes it an ILLEGAL activity"
Only if you believe in a world court.
Whoops! you vetoed it.
suck my doobies......
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since when is talking about pot illegal?
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no shi.. er doubt
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(http://headshop.hightimes.com/images/p12414b.jpg)
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OK! OK! heres a good one!
What is the strangest food you have consumed while in the throws of a full blown munchy attack?
Mine was cold peas from a can covered in cold spagetti sauce. MMmmmm mmmmm. Good eats!
:rolleyes:
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Oreo's and garlic onion dip.
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Originally posted by Eagler
me thinks HTC doesn't like it when you get carried away with justifying an ILLEGAL activity on their bbs.
Why don't you try posting here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&group=rec.drugs.cannabis
Less argument there as they forget day to day what they said :)
Eagler, think so? If that's the case then maybe HTC is more aware the demographics on these BBS includes kids and felt like we were encouraging drug abuse. If this is true then I apologize to HTC and anyone else who felt like I was encouraging ANY illegal activity, especially drug abuse, among our children or anyone else.
As a parent I'd be horrified if my child were to smoke pot or use any other drugs. I did not mean to imply drug use is OK because it's not- drug abuse is arguably the biggest problem facing America today. I'm sorry if I implied otherwise, and I apologize to Hi Tech for being a bigger pain in the arse than the 8.95 a month I pay to fly AH is worth.
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now, THAT was an oustanding piece of bait placement.
Damn, we bow to you Master Elfenwolf, for we're not worthy.
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Originally posted by Hangtime
now, THAT was an oustanding piece of bait placement.
Damn, we bow to you Master Elfenwolf, for we're not worthy.
nah, it doesn't affect judgement
EW was serious there hang, well as serious as EW gets :)
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Did ya ever see "A River Runs Through It"? The scene where the guys brother is working the fly line on the river, coaxing the fish out by flicking the bait expertly back and forth just out of the water?
just saw it happen again :D
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Originally posted by Eagler
nah, it doesn't affect judgement
EW was serious there hang, well as serious as EW gets :)
hehe I think you missed the trailer hook at the end of his post! :D
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mmmmmmm, forbidden soul doughnut.
::::cough, cough:::::
Passes to Udie ....
:o <--- what's wrong with weed with an icon like this?
In a pinch we could change our name to the 900th Bloodshot Jaguars :D
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trailer hook.. kinda like the 2-fly system...
hooks many an un-wary victim.
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Originally posted by Eagler
me thinks HTC doesn't like it when you get carried away with justifying an ILLEGAL activity on their bbs.
Why don't you try posting here:
http://groups.google.com/groups?hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&group=rec.drugs.cannabis
Less argument there as they forget day to day what they said :)
WHOOP WHOOP
WHOOP WHOOP
SELF RIGHTEOUS roadkill ALERT, SECTOR THREE
WHOOP WHOOP
WHOOP WHOOP...
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MT: 1 can corned beef hash, 1 can baked beans, 6 eggs, 1 pan. (There were two of us)
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btw MT that was total BS.
good way to scare a fish.
I have to laugh when tourist fishermen come up and I see them do false casts (shadow-casting in the movie) over fish. They think, due to the movie, that they are really accomplished when they do that.. actually it's what beginners do.
the best fishermen don't need to false cast.
still... kick bellybutton movie.
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Fried chocolate cake, followed by a roll in the sack with the girl who "made it" while some guy crashed in the bunk bed above her's. What a fine early morning encounter that was :)
Charon
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What illegal ????
Coffee Shop
The word coffeeshop, conveniently created by the Dutch habit of running words together, has become synonymous with a special kind of coffee shop. These places do sell coffee and have one or more tables to sit and drink it but, their primary commodity is cannabis. These days they are licensed by the local council and subject to regulation. A strict minimum age of 18 is enforced.
How it Works
Coffee shops are not allowed to advertise, so you won't see a big sign saying "Marijuana for Sale". If you don't see a dealer's booth, just go up to the bar and ask to see the 'menu'. You will be presented with a list of the various different grasses and hashes available at a range of prices.
In some shops cannabis is sold by weight, in others by value. Where it is sold by weight the prices are per gram. There are 28 grams in an ounce and one shop, Grey Area, will actually sell 'quarters' and 'eighths'. That last sentence will only make sense in UK and US -Ed :-)
Where it is sold by value, the menu will show the quantity, in grams, that you'll get of each variety for a price of 25 guilders (about £8 UK or $12 US). In these shops the minimum purchase is 25 guilders. At one time, some shops also offered 10 guilder deals but these are becoming very rare.
Prices
Cannabis prices vary according to shop location and type. In the centre of Amsterdam prices tend to be a little higher especially in places that cater for tourists - that includes both rip-off joints and connoisseur's shops. As a very rough guide, expect to pay around 10 guilders for a gram of bog-standard 'Skunk' or 'Thai'. Maybe 12.50 for 'Northern Lights' and 15 or more for a highly-rated 'Haze'.
The Law
Technically, the legal situation is quite complicated. International treaties preclude the Netherlands from legalising cannabis, even if they wanted to. Cannabis is illegal in Holland but possession of a small quantity is considered to be a misdemeanour rather than a criminal offence.
In practice, the possession of up to 30 grams (about an ounce) is permitted.
Regulations for coffee shops include:
No advertising
No exporting outside of the Netherlands
Absolutely No Hard Drugs
A maximum quantity of 5 grams sold to each customer
A maximum of 500 grams of stock
No sales to under 18s
Incidentally, the 500 gram stock rule is routinely broken by the busier shops. It is used by the authorities as a pretence for occasional random raids to keep an eye on them.
History
The coffeeshop phenomenon began in the early 1970's. Even then, the Netherlands realised that the war on drugs was lost and that they had to find a way of reducing the impact of drugs on their society. To that end, they sought to draw a clear line between hard and soft drugs and concentrated their law enforcement effort on hard drugs. Those involved in smuggling and trading heroin and cocaine were to be hunted down and prosecuted; those addicted to heroin were to be treated as sick, like alcoholics; and those in possession of cannabis were to be, virtually, ignored.
The pioneering coffeeshops exploited this situation by openly selling cannabis. They were frequently busted but kept coming back for more. There is some debate about which was the first coffeeshop but the most famous was certainly The Bulldog established in 1975 by a guy called Henk de Vries in a former brothel in the Red Light district.
In 1976 the first steps were taken to decriminalise cannabis. The law was changed so that the possession of up to 30 grams of cannabis was no longer a criminal offence. Coffeeshops, however, remained completely illegal until 1980. Nevertheless, they continued to thrive and multiply.
1980 saw the beginning of the 'tolerance' policy towards coffeeshops. So long as there were never any hard drugs on the premises and they were reasonably discreet, they were generally left alone. Since then coffee shops have spread across Amsterdam and into most parts of the Netherlands. Initially, most Dutch people disapproved of coffee shops. Over time attitudes have softened and they are now widely accepted but the Netherlands is subject to constant international pressure from less enlightened governments like those in France, UK and US.
By the 1990's Amsterdam considered that it had too many coffee shops and that some were selling hard drugs. Encouraged by international pressure they decided that drastic action was required. At the same time, some of the better coffee shops were organising themselves into a union, the BCD (Bond van Cannabis Detaillisten). After some argument, a compromise was agreed by the city council that rather suited the members of the BCD.
In 1995 it was decided that the number of coffeeshops would be dramatically reduced by closing all those engaged in illegal activities. The remainder would then be licensed by the council. The number of licences was frozen and the licences made non-transferrable in an effort to further reduce numbers over time. All coffeeshops now display a small green and white sticker that shows that they are licensed to sell cannabis. The selection of coffeeshops in Amsterdam has remained virtually unchanged since '95. In theory, the '95 regulations also outlawed the selling of alcohol and cannabis on the same premises but this does not seem to be enforced.
Outside Amsterdam, the situation varies between localities. As you might expect, coffeeshop density is highest where population is highest, that is, in the Randstad, the doughnut-shaped urban area formed by Amsterdam, Utrecht, Rotterdam, The Hague and the countless cities and towns that join them. Even in this area there are considerable local variations, though. The policy towards coffeeshops is decided at a local level. In some towns there are none whatsoever. In others they are not allowed to display signs or are subject to other limitations.
From Hash to Nederwiet
In the early days, coffee shops sold mostly imported hashish (cannabis resin). Nowadays Dutch-grown grass dominates most menus (although hash is still available). The famous 'skunk' originated in America. When it was introduced into the Netherlands, the more relaxed environment and endemic Dutch horticultural skills led to this variety being further improved. Although Holland's climate is not particularly conducive to growing marijuana, the use of artificial lighting for indoor growing has become highly advanced. There are now hundreds of named varieties of seeds available and large-scale cultivation supplies the coffee shops with a good range of exotic herbs.
Growing up to half-a-dozen marijuana plants for home consumption is, effectively, legal. Commercial growing is, however, still illegal so the 'grow rooms' that supply the coffeeshops are still very secretive.
The Amsterdam Coffeeshop Directory has details of hundreds of coffee shops throughout the Netherlands (see address lists). For wide choice of Amsterdam's finest see the list in the bottom-left frame or the clickable map or, for some edited highlights, check the best of page.
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© Amsterdam Coffeeshop Directory: http://www.coffeeshopdirect.com | Contact: Lemming@coffeeshop.freeuk.com
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Nevada votes to legalize 3oz in a person’s possession of pot soon, to be made law if it passes that, and another vote in 2004. Pretty sure that’s the way it is anyway, read it in the RGJ today.
The brothel hags will love that. I’m sure the whiskey drunk crowd is hard on em.
Reminds me of living in Wisconsin near the border in the 70’s and 80’s where Illinois drinking law was 21, and Wisconsin 18. Damn FIB’s invaded on weekends.
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God save the Dutch! :D
Isn't there a Cannibus Festival in Sept? It would be like entering a time machine back to the days when we had cigarette ads on TV, done by doctors. :)
"Have a brownie, the more you eat, the more you eat."