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Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: Hawklore on July 25, 2002, 05:43:47 PM
If rescuing came along the Consolidated pby catalina would be good also could be loaded woth torps....

PBY-5A

Wingspan 104 feet

Length 63 feet 10 inches

height 20 feet 2 inches

Power 2 pratt &whitney r-1830-92 1,200 hp radials

Weight empty 20,910 lb; loaded 35,420

Maximum speed 175mph at 7,000 feet

Service ceiling 13,000

Range 2,350 miles


Now maybe this could be the first sea plane addition to AH and it was used wuite alot by the navy. Developed in the 1930's,most improtant flying boat of ww2



And if you have any info on what plane droped jeeps to the makiee in france id like to know cause thats what ah needs so we can drop gvs...
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: BUG_EAF322 on July 25, 2002, 06:45:58 PM
promoting dutch planes :)
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: Hawklore on July 25, 2002, 09:09:20 PM
Actualy its an american plane, and it dont look like that :) engines are above it.. *shrug* the one i know looks cooler :)
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: Karnak on July 25, 2002, 09:56:00 PM
H8K2 "Emily" would be better in every way, and usefull in far more roles, even giving the Japanese planeset a bomber with something approaching a payload.
Title: Re: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: BenDover on July 25, 2002, 10:06:24 PM
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Originally posted by Hawklore
And if you have any info on what plane droped jeeps to the makiee in france id like to know cause thats what ah needs so we can drop gvs...


just had a thought


gliders




But lets have the power glider, the gigant:)
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: AdmRose on July 26, 2002, 01:44:19 AM
Don't mean to spoil your fun, but where are the guns? No guns = No fun (think Goon in furball here).

Try the OS2U Kingfisher if you want a navy scout/rescue boat.
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: CyranoAH on July 26, 2002, 04:01:20 AM
Heh once again I say:

YESSSS Please bring the Catalina!! :D

Daniel
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: CDR Akira on July 26, 2002, 11:40:53 AM
Yeah and that german powered glider I think it had four 7.62 MGs and two 30cal. MGs
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: Hawklore on July 26, 2002, 01:07:36 PM
No it wasnt gliders that droped the jeeps and vehicles one guy mentioned modified lancasters and maybe b29's

Oh and the catalina did have guns One rear mounted turret and one 4 barreled mg i think


if not the catalini maybe the russian MBR but it has only one rear facing ugly engine
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: Hawklore on July 26, 2002, 01:10:04 PM
Oh boy the me323 would be awesome towing the me321 and then the Li2 russian transport towing the G1 and the pe8 towing :) :O
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: BenDover on July 26, 2002, 02:42:23 PM
it was me who said about the lancasters, and i was joking




btw, lol:p
Title: Sunderland??
Post by: CBFASI on July 28, 2002, 10:13:12 AM
If you want a flying boat that has some defenses go for the Short Sunderland

Nicknamed the Flying Porcupine by the Germans.

Mk V
4 FIXED forward firing .303
2 in power operated bow turret
4 in power operated tail turret
2 manually operated .5 beam guns.

And to cap it all 4960lb of bombs, mines or depth charges

Span - 112ft 9.5in
Length - 85ft 4in
Height - 32ft 10.5in

Maximum Speed Sea level - 207mph
Maximum Speed 5,000ft - 213mph
Maximum Range - 2980miles
Initial Rate of climb - 840ft/min
Service Ceiling 17,900ft

Weight empty - 37,000 lb
Weight Max. - 65,000 lb

Crew - 10

Total production of all Marks - 749

Into service 1938, out of service 1959 (21 years) (RAF Service)
RNZAF -out of service in 1967, thats 29 years...)

Served with Coastal Command, participated with evacuations of Norway, Greece and Crete.  Equipped 28 Squadrons by the end of the war.
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: Karnak on July 28, 2002, 04:23:42 PM
The Sunderland's defenses and performance pale in comparison with the H8K2 "Emily", the best flying boat of the war.

Kawanishi H8K2 "Emily"
Engines: four Mitsubishi MK4Q Kasei 22 at 1,850hp.
Speed: 290mph
Ceiling: 29,000ft
Climb: 10 minutes, 12 seconds to 16,400ft. Average climb of 1,600ft per minute.
Range: 4,450 miles.
Armament: five 20mm Type 99 Model 1 cannon, one each in bow, dorsal, tail turrets and two beam hatches, and four 7.7mm Type 92 machine-guns, one each in ventral, port and starboard fuselage sides and cockpit hatches.
Ordanance: sixteen 50kg bombs or eight 250kg bombs or two 800kg bombs or two 1500kg bombs or two 800kg torpedoes.
Number Built: 167 of all versions. The H8K2 was the major version with 112 built.

This is quite probably the most capable bomber the Japanese used in WWII. The H8K2 can carry eight 550lb bombs, or two 3,300lb bombs, that is enough to inflict some serious damage and is three times as much as any other Japanese bomber that I have seen. The H8K2 also has the destinction of being extremely durable, quite possibly the most durable aircraft feilded by any nation in WWII. Because the H8K2 is a flying boat it would have to be enabled only at ports and coastal bases (where it would spawn in the water like a PT Boat).

H8K "Emily" shots:
(http://www.strategyplanet.com/commandos/images/h8k2_7.jpg)
(http://www.j-aircraft.com/walk/george_ele/Emily1.jpg)
(http://www.j-aircraft.com/walk/hiroyuki%20_takeuchi/h8k25.jpg)
(http://www.j-aircraft.com/walk/other/kasei1.jpg)
(http://www.j-aircraft.com/walk/george_ele/Emily2.jpg)
(http://www.j-aircraft.com/walk/george_ele/Emily9.jpg)
(http://www.j-aircraft.com/walk/george_ele/Emily5.jpg)
(http://www.j-aircraft.com/walk/george_ele/Emily12.jpg)
(http://www.strategyplanet.com/commandos/images/h8k2_6.jpg)
(http://www.strategyplanet.com/commandos/images/h8k2_4_UpperDeck.jpg)
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: BenDover on July 28, 2002, 04:35:30 PM
could it carry troops?
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: Karnak on July 28, 2002, 04:39:54 PM
H8K4 could carry 64 soldiers.
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: BenDover on July 28, 2002, 04:45:40 PM
nice
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: DJ111 on July 28, 2002, 10:54:47 PM
How about :

    Martin PBM-3D Mariner

    Grumman JRF-5 Goose

    Consolidated PB2Y-5 Coronado :)


       Just some suggestions...
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: palef on July 29, 2002, 07:35:51 PM
I've always liked these.

Had a model of one once.

palef

edit - oops, for those that don't know it's a Heinkel He 115
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: Karnak on July 29, 2002, 07:48:08 PM
Quote
Originally posted by DJ111
How about :

    Martin PBM-3D Mariner

    Grumman JRF-5 Goose

    Consolidated PB2Y-5 Coronado :)


       Just some suggestions...


Bleeeaaah!!!!

How about something non-American.  I think there is enough right now without adding to the imbalance.

We need Japanese and Russian stuff.
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: brady on July 29, 2002, 08:04:15 PM
Karnak, may just have somthing their, too much us stuff as it is:)
Title: Plane for sea/land rescues..?
Post by: BenDover on July 29, 2002, 08:51:40 PM
there's about 25 US aircraft and GVs