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Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: daddog on July 29, 2002, 08:28:22 PM
Name the guys that you are pleased to see when you log into the CT. :)

The guys who "salute" when you shoot them down, the ones willing to take troops, the ones who always check your 6, the ones who will come to help, the ones who don't whine and switch sides when the numbers are against them, the ones who are out to have fun and hope you do too. ;)

You know who I am talking about. :) I can name all the guys in my squad, but I will keep them off my list.

I think of, (in no particular order)…

Eskimo
Furzy
Oldman
Fork
Duke
Keyapaha
Sehob
Sabre
Corwin
Wotan
Propnut
Hazed

There is more I know, but these come to mind at the moment and I am sure there are some fellows who are on when I am not. :)

to all of you who make the CT enjoyable for me!
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: eskimo2 on July 29, 2002, 08:33:46 PM
Yea, but will you respect me in the morning?

eeeeewwwe!

eskimo
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: eskimo2 on July 29, 2002, 08:35:14 PM
To answer your question, pretty much all of the regulars, and a lot of folks who show up just now and then.

eskimo
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Samm on July 29, 2002, 08:48:47 PM
I don't know anybody that plays AH so I can't really say that I respect or disrespect any of them .
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Wotan on July 29, 2002, 09:24:43 PM
Theres lots of great guys in the CT.


The things I appreciate most from other players:

Anyone who enjoys a good fight and can express that whether they win or loose.

The guys who fly every setup and find fun even when they dont like to current matchups.

Also the CT CMs who do what they can to make the ct fun.

The guys who choose to work together even though they have very little incentative to.


With the coming mission theater it may mean an end to the "Combat Theater" ans despite its limited appeal there were so really good times in there.
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Yeager on July 29, 2002, 10:19:41 PM
I havent had even a tinge of disrespect for anyone Ive met in the CT.  I guess in the absence of disrespect you can have only one thing, respect!

To you guys.
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Nifty on July 30, 2002, 11:01:24 AM
guess no one will respect me then.  :p  I only salute the solidly good, memorable fights.   I feel like I'm belittling someone if I toss out a after me and 3 squaddies ganged him low and slow.  Good fight?  hell no, he had no chance if we don't screw up.  Had he got me (or a squaddie), then he gets a because he put on a "damn good show!"

Second,  I'm here to have fun.  If I don't like a setup or matchup, I'm not going to waste my time or yours flying it.  If am not having fun, I'm logging off, regardless of the reason why I'm not having a good time.

If this causes people to "not respect me,"  oh well, I'm here to have fun, not earn your "respect."

:)
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Oldman731 on July 30, 2002, 11:54:31 AM
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Originally posted by Yeager
I havent had even a tinge of disrespect for anyone Ive met in the CT.  I guess in the absence of disrespect you can have only one thing, respect!

To you guys.


That mirrors my own experience.  Perhaps it's because the truly unpleasant people, for one reason or another, don't want to come to the CT, or maybe it's some weird transformation process, but we don't really get many turkeys there.  

- oldman
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Löwe on July 30, 2002, 04:16:52 PM
I havent run into any regulars I don't respect in CT. I have a few dissagreements, with guys over one issue or another, and usually on this board and not in the arena.
To me the best thing about CT is the people that fly there. It doesn't take long for a hothead from MA to come in full of chnl 1 B.S. to make me glad I stay in CT.
To be honest  there is very few in MA I don't respect, I just don't enjoy the arena, but tha majority of guys in there are as good as gold, they just find their sim enjoyment in a differnt fashion.
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: kidcol on July 31, 2002, 10:20:49 AM
Like just about everybody else, I haven't run into many pilots in CT that weren't friendly, talented & just generally happy to fly & fight.

There was one guy.. hehe

He popped in while I was scouting out a new terrain & immediately announced that he was there "TO KICK AZZ!!". He then ground-looped several take-offs. I helped him out a bit, gave him a few pointers & suggested we dogfight for a little while.

I was then treated to a description of all the things he was going to do to me, my mom, my dog, my neighbor, etc...

So I shot his wing off.

He then left. But not before announcing on ch. 1, several times, that I was "A studmuffin!!!"

Come to think of it, I enjoyed that quite a bit too :)

kid
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Samm on July 31, 2002, 10:39:56 AM
If you don't see a from me it's becuase I don't fraternize with the enemy :) I usually have chan 1 squelched and icons set to plane type . It's nothing personal against anyone .
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Corwin on August 07, 2002, 02:12:12 PM
The CT group is a really great bunch.  I truly enjoy the time I get to spend in there (since the twins came along) and really respect the skill, camaraderie and good natured group that can  be found there.

It occurs to me I have never even squelched in the CT!

all!

:D
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: HFMudd on August 07, 2002, 04:07:35 PM
Yeah, it is a whole different world in the CT.  Day before yesterday some poor fellow went off on a rant about how bad the FM was because the Hurri could, "Drop flaps and flat turn at 50mph for four minutes!" and how I and another Hurri driver were "gaming the game."  This was how he felt we were able to out turn and burn the 109 down at the wavetops.

In the MA he would have drawn nothing but ire.  In the CT the folks attempted to help him out to tell him how to use his 109 to bring down a Hurri.  Sadly he was never able to accept that it was his preconceptions about the 109 vs. the Hurri that were in error and with a final "Have fun gamin" augered, logged and wasn't seen again.

As always, to the CT one and all.
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Saw at Work on August 08, 2002, 06:28:25 AM
<-- is not on Daddog's list.

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Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: HiJack on August 09, 2002, 10:11:07 PM
CT is the only place for me and the Hellcats, and we respect all who fly there, dont always have the super planes and usually it is pretty equal, and 99% who fly there show respect for one another. Once in awhile there is a little misunderstanding between a couple of guys or squads but never turns into anything viscous and is usually forgotten quickly, if you want good clean flying and guys that dont offer a thousand excused why you shot them down, fly the ct!
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: HiJack on August 09, 2002, 10:12:42 PM
Oh ya Daddog was a pleasure meeting you and the other Mongrels at the con, had a great time.
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: WildBlue on August 13, 2002, 07:40:15 AM
Yup, as everyone else has said, the CT has a better quality of player, period. Call me "elitist" (yup, guess I'm one of those, lol) but every time I wander off into the MA I'm quickly reminded of why I love the CT. Sure, each side has it's gripes (like those dang bulletproof wildcats, hehe), but we all eventually work it out. I couldn't pick any single players to make a list, the CT as a whole would be less without any one of them. We are all in there together, time and time again... for each setup... and there is an unspoken respect for ANYONE who flies the CT regularly. all, and know you all have my respect.
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Sixpence on August 13, 2002, 10:57:30 PM
Well, you get the same in CT sometimes, was greatly outnumbered by zeroes tonight. Probably the same people who fly la7's in main.Had a good time though, still a much better arena. to those brave f4f pilots.Would like to see hellcat, they seem to be flocking to the zero making an unbalanced arena(well, tonight anyway). Great job with CT map guys,can't wait for Midway.:)
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Löwe on August 14, 2002, 08:08:22 AM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Well, you get the same in CT sometimes, was greatly outnumbered by zeroes tonight. Probably the same people who fly la7's in main.  


Hmm I was in CT from 9:30 PM EST untill 11:30 PM EST. The first half hour was an Allied numbers advantage, then an hour passed with the numbers even. The last half hour I was on the advantage in numbers was with the Japanese. Excuse me Sixpence, but  the people flying Zero's in CT are not the same ones flying LA-7's in MA. Most of the people in CT fly Allied or Axis, and usually because of squadron commitments. There are a lot of people that will switch sides to even out numbers. In fact if you watched the text buffer last night it wasn't Zero pilots landing their kills it was F4F pilots landing the most. The A6m2 is hard to hit, but it's not uber by any means. I saw only 3 guys land kills in Zekes the first hour and a half. The last 30 minutes I was on a couple of guys landed big kill sorties in Zekes. Personally I hate the A6m2, it's prob my style of flying but i'd rather be in a Grumman of any type. Typical Zeke sortie for me is to fly to the battle spend 5 minutes flying in a blacked out state, maybe get one or two kills before I am out of cannon shells, then get whacked by some gentleman in an F4F or P-40, as I try to extend out of the battle. Saburo Saki I am not! Don't get me wrong it's a great plane for guys who know how to furball, but it's weaker than a popcorn fart in a whirlwind. One hit and if your not going down, you will be soon. I do like the Solomons map, and I hope in a few weeks there will be a 1943 set-up, with F4U1's P-40E's, F4F's, CV based F6F's,  some P-38s. On the IJ side A6m2's A6m5s, and Ki-61s.
You don't see too many people in the CT that fly just because a certain GREAT PLANE is in the set-up. Most of the CT population is dedicated to the arena and do everything they can to promote it, and help make it better. In fact four of us in the 27th Sentai left VF-27 to form a Japanese squad in CT because there was none before. While it's been fun  formin an IJ squad, VF-27 was a much better time for me personally. Sorry for the rant Sixpence I guess you hit a nerve bud. Try flying the zeke a few sorties especially against  880 Fleet Air Arm, or VF-27. I think you'll find it's more of a challenge then you give it credit for;)
SALUTE!
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: HFMudd on August 14, 2002, 09:31:54 AM
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Well, you get the same in CT sometimes, was greatly outnumbered by zeroes tonight. Probably the same people who fly la7's in main.

I fly on the side with the lowest numbers, period.  When I'm on, in the eves PST the Allies have held a 2:1 or 3:1 advantage so I have been flying the Zero.  

The LA-7 to Zero comparison is rather weak at best.  The Zero is not fast, it is not tuff, it has a poor ammo load out and the early type 99's are hard to get hits with.  I'm not sure which of these you think might draw an LA-7 fan.
Title: Hey, Sixpence......
Post by: eddiek on August 14, 2002, 11:46:22 AM
Yep, I was there in the CT last night when you made the channel 1 comment about "hoards of Zeroes".  That "hoard" consisted of 5-6 Assassins, and one or two others.  At any one moment, we saw anywhere from 4-10 F4F's or P-40's, so the odds were pretty even most of the time.
As for the A6M2, well, we learned quickly last night that once the 20mm ammo is gone (and with such a short clip that happens really fast) you better RTB.  I had told my squaddies about a similiar experience several days earlier where I got behind a P-40 at d200-300 and all I had were the BB guns, could not hit the guy to save my life even at that close range.  
All in all, the A6M2 is potent, but not lethal by ANY means IMO.
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: keyapaha on August 14, 2002, 12:45:56 PM
posted by eddiek  "got behind a P-40 at d200-300 and all I had were the BB guns, could not hit the guy to save my life even at that close range."


     yup thats too far out i usually dont even think about fireing till inside d200 if I have time i wait till around d100 then the kills come easy and quick. problem is it takes a while to get in that posotion.
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Sixpence on August 14, 2002, 12:48:59 PM
Well, I was in today(whining about zeroes). And Dimmer offered to switch sides to prove the f4f was a better plane...........didn't happen. The zero prevailed rather easily. And history proved that,it's a fact.The zero was a far superior plane.Dimmer mentioned you need altitude with the allied planes(and he is correct, BnZ the way to go). But the name of the game is to capture fields, and that is done on the deck where the zero has the distinct advantage.And I like the territorial part of the game, it's the best feature if you ask me:D (although dogfighting is a blast),so you won't usually see me above 12k. And where I fly the f4f I reserve the right to whine about zeroes:p .I'm not saying flying the zero makes you a lesser pilot, just gives you an advantage...........kinda like flying an La7:eek:
And don't worry, ranting and whining are allowed here:D
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Sixpence on August 14, 2002, 12:56:19 PM
BTW, all that being said, I love the map and the arena. But i'm afraid a 1943 plane set may give too much of an advantage to allies. Maybe make some of the planes perk planes? Just a thought......And I still reserve the right to whine:p
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: HiJack on August 14, 2002, 03:22:03 PM
Whinning is fine, but i prefer dining, just ask Lowe, lol, 6ft 1in 285lbs you can whine alot at that size, guess i better diet, maybe my F4 would do better hehe!
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Dennis on August 14, 2002, 04:04:55 PM
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Originally posted by Sixpence
Well, you get the same in CT sometimes, was greatly outnumbered by zeroes tonight. Probably the same people who fly la7's in main.


I fly the zero just about ever time it's available in the CT.  I don't believe I've ever once flown an La7 in the main.

I like the zeke 'cuz I'm a piss-poor b&z pilit and have better luck with the turn & burn.  That's about it.  The early model's loadout sucks big time, though.

I ran into you a few times a night or two ago.  You seemed to be doing just fine in the Wildcat -- particularly with the first-shot snapshots.  I think I had a screwy connection that night, but I'm sure at least some of it was ability on your part.  :D

As far as the side imbalance goes, it seems to ebb and flow these days.  Give it awhile, and it'll change.  For the cupla sorties I was on Tuesday nite, it was about 2:1 allied -- something like 30-16 at one point, as I recall -- but that started to even out as a few folks switched sides and others departed.  

Anyway, not really anxious to get into that debate again.  ;)

Splash1
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Löwe on August 14, 2002, 05:27:10 PM
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Originally posted by HiJack
Whinning is fine, but i prefer dining, just ask Lowe, lol, 6ft 1in 285lbs you can whine alot at that size, guess i better diet, maybe my F4 would do better hehe!


Hell Hijacker I saw you do more BEERING than anything !:D
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Sixpence on August 15, 2002, 05:59:12 AM
My doctor says it must be "cholesterol free dining":D
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Durr on August 15, 2002, 11:17:57 PM
I think the Wildcat and Zero are fairly evenly matched if you fly them right.  They are certainly both survivable.  I think the Zero is likely the better plane and in a true 1 vs 1 fight at co alt, I think the Wildcat pilot would have his work cut out for him.  The key is to not ever allow yourself to get in this situation.  Captain Jimmy Thach proved that the Wildcat operating in pairs can handle the Zero fairly easily.  With an alt advantage you can control the fight as well.  On the other hand, if you are in a Zero, you can usually foil the shot of the Allies until they are frustrated enough to start turning with you, then they should die.  

The first night I flew in this setup, I entered to find that there were 5 allies and only 1 IJN.  After a few missions as Ally, I started to feel sorry for the poor Zeke that the 6 of us were competing to vulch, and I switched sides.  I rarely switch sides to even the numbers because I am in an Allied squad, but this seemed to be the right thing to do this time.  I was stunned by the dogfighting ability of the Zero.  I shot down 2 enemies on my first hop, 4 on my second.  On about my 4th mission, I landed 8 kills.  Most of these were against Wildcats, although there was the occasional P-40.  At the end of the night, I had shot down roughly 25-30 enemy aircraft, and only been shot down maybe 5 or 6 times.  

Tonight was our squad night, so I was wondering how I would fare against the seemingly uber Zero.  To my surprise, I shot down 6 enemy aircraft on my first hop of the night, including 3 Zeroes.  Minutes later, on another mission, I shot down 2 more Zeroes and got assists on 2 others.  In 3 Wildcat missions I flew, I landed all safely (except for 1 CTD).  

My point is, you can survive and get kills in either aircraft if you fly it correctly.  In the Zero, never stop manouvering, conserve your cannon ammunition, and dont let target fixation get you.  Good marksmanship, and the ability to manouver well in a tight low speed dogfight, will get you kills.  In the Wildcat, dont let your speed decay, get good at crossing snapshots, and always have an escape route.  Dont try to turn inside a Zero, and be ready to extend when you can.  Try to engage with at least 1k of alt advantage, and work with a wingman.  

If you dont break these rules, you should survive.  The problem is its awful hard not to turn with that Zero for just one more second to get the kill on him, or to break off that Wildcat you are about to kill just because his wingman is saddled up on your 6.  

As far as the numbers balance thing goes, I have seen both sides with numbers advantage.  It ebbs and flows, and there is really nothing to be done about it.  Enough people usually switch to make things work, so its not too bad.
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Sixpence on August 16, 2002, 07:25:55 AM
You right, eb&flo, more allies last night
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: keyapaha on August 16, 2002, 09:18:40 AM
i flew the zero all week since i am in a japanese squad the only thing that worked for me is that  my climbing ablity could keep me above my enemy long enough to bore him in to making a mistake
like climbing up to try to enguage or getting suckered ito a turn fight usually 1vs1 or even 1vs2 most of the time i could get a kill.

  but most of the time i found my self in a whirling furball with no means of escape ( i got impatient ) major mistake on my part
it is very hard to escape a diving f4f  usually i am a very patient flyer but for some reason in a zero i get into a hurry up and get a kill and flee for home mentiality why i do not know. ( thats the worst thing you can do in a zero).

  i did like this set up  i learned a bit more about my loved a6m2
some good and some bad.

  i well be better next time around :)
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Nifty on August 16, 2002, 10:28:39 AM
F4F vs Zeke...  HO.  Your 6 0.50's will shred that Zero before he can get close enough to effectively put the 20mm cannons on you.  Say what you want about the HO, that's flying smart.  armament and durability both are square in the Wildcat's corner in that matchup.  The HO variables are armament, armor, and gunnery skills.  The 50's have much better ballistics than the 20mm so you get a gunnery bonus as well.  Aside from that, do what Durr says.  Escape route is a must.  

Zeke vs F4F.  What Durr said, with one addition.  Climb.  Zeros climb a lot better than the F4F.  When the F4F overshoots on his boom and starts to zoom, climb as much as you can while maintaining manueverability.  Eventually, you should be able to negate the alt advantage (assuming you avoid his guns in the process!  ;) )
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Sixpence on August 16, 2002, 11:55:01 AM
Good zero pilot avoids the h2h 95% of the time, good luck shredding that zeke while he's on ur six.;)
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: daddog on August 18, 2002, 06:07:08 PM
lol you know your on it saw! Just have not seen you forever. ;)

Back at you Hijack! :D

Been missing the CT folks. School year started and the days are very long. Was on briefly for 30 minutes a couple of days ago.
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: eskimo2 on August 18, 2002, 09:49:08 PM
daddog,
What subject do you teach, again?

eskimo
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: daddog on August 19, 2002, 05:25:28 PM
This year I am starting a 7/8th grade combo class at a small elementary school. Prior I was at a high school teaching civics, economics, U.S. History, and basic computers. I will miss the high school, but this move is for the better for a variety of reasons.
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: eskimo2 on August 19, 2002, 07:24:49 PM
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Originally posted by daddog
This year I am starting a 7/8th grade combo class at a small elementary school. Prior I was at a high school teaching civics, economics, U.S. History, and basic computers. I will miss the high school, but this move is for the better for a variety of reasons.


Good luck!

Speaking of respect, I've got alot fot you middle school teachers.



eskimo
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: daddog on August 20, 2002, 08:06:48 AM
They are a different animal to be sure.  :)
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Wilbus on August 20, 2002, 03:58:10 PM
It's because you're French Saw :D
Title: Who do you respect in the CT?
Post by: Red Tail 444 on August 27, 2002, 10:30:04 AM
Given my druthers I'd play CT more, as it's where my squad is, but it can be frustrating sometimes when I only have a short time to play and there are only 9 people in the CT. I like gobbling up the newbies in their La-7's though in the MA, and since I've been grounded w/ a broken hand I need all the free food I can get. The guys in the CT are top shelf, and the CT has a way of weeding out the whiners. You fight, you mess up, and you're gonna die, sinple as that. em and move on. I do! Peopole are also more willing to call out 1-1's and offer tips after a good fight. I'm not into the trash talking, I get enough of that in RL :)

Gainsie