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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sikboy on August 01, 2002, 09:47:38 AM
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http://www.buzzflash.com/contributors/2002/06/07_Soylent.html
Soylent Green is Oil
June 7, 2002
By Dwayne Eutsey
I watched the last part of "Soylent Green" the other night, that popcorn-paranoia flick where Charlton Heston discovers the unsavory truth about a new corporate snack food.
The movie's been out since the '70s, so I don't think I'm spoiling the ending here (along with your appetite) by revealing the secret. Heston himself, in his usual teeth gritting, sweaty, overly dramatic way, exposes what it is when he cries out at the end that: "Soylent Green is people! It's PEOPLE!"
Maybe that's why ol' Chuck refuses to give up his Uzi unless you pry it from his cold, dead fingers. Anyone from Nabisco knocking at his door wanting to make a new line of Charlton Heston snack treats gets one right between the eyes, bucko.
Anyway, as I watched Heston screaming out the truth about soylent green to a city sleeping in darkness, I couldn't help but think of the most recent developments in Afghanistan.
According to news reports, mostly from European media, construction of a $2 billion oil pipeline through that battered and broken country has received the green light -- or perhaps that should be the "soylent green light" -- now that the Taliban is gone.
What do I mean? Chew on these morsels:
- As far back as the early-'90s, a coalition of US oil interests, led by the Houston-based Unocal Corp., has wanted to build a pipeline through the region. They began negotiations with the Taliban in 1995 to accomplish this.
- According to a 1997 memo from Ken Lay to then Gov. George W. Bush, Enron was also negotiating a "$2 billion venture" with Uzbekistan and Russia. Lay told Bush the venture could "bring significant economic opportunity to Texas" and "political benefit to the United States."
- Also in 1997, Unocal and Texas oil barons invited Taliban leaders to Texas. According to The Telegraph (UK), the "high-ranking delegation was given VIP treatment during their four-day stay." They stayed in a five-star hotel and were chauffeured in a Unocal minibus.
- After the Taliban is linked to Osama Bin Laden and terrorist attacks against American embassies in Africa, Unocal abandons the project because it doesn't want to appear supportive of the Taliban government.
- George Bush steals the election in 2000 and continues negotiations with the Taliban, giving the repressive regime millions of dollars in aid.
- Negotiations stall in August 2001 and the Bush administration draws up plans for a war with Afghanistan.
- The September 11 terrorist attacks provide an excuse for bombing Afghanistan and removing the Taliban from power.
- After ousting the Taliban, the Bush administration engineers the rise to power of two former Unocal employees: interim President Hamid Karzai, and Bush's envoy to Afghanistan, Zalmay Khalizad.
- May 2002: Plans for the oil pipeline through Afghanistan are approved.
So what's this oily recipe for greed and war got to do with "Soylent Green?" It occured to me as I watched the gruesome truth come out in the movie that the main ingredient Heston discovers is used to manufacture all those little green squares also helped make this pipeline possible:
Dead bodies.
Thousands of them, in fact. Some estimates say 10,000 (some others go as high as 20,000) Afghan civilians are now dead as a result of the US bombing campaign. Of course, that doesn't include the 3,000 who died in the 9/11 attacks as a result of the Bush administration's incompetence (or worse).
Thousands of innocent Afghan men, women, and children, killed. Not to combat terrorism at all, but according to all the evidence, to build a pipeline.
As with soylent green, once you learn how that pipeline was really made, it sure leaves a nasty taste in your mouth, doesn't it?
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I agree.
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As a general rule, when making a strong statement like that, the author should consider citing sources . :rolleyes:
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"Thousands of them, in fact. Some estimates say 10,000 (some others go as high as 20,000) Afghan civilians are now dead as a result of the US bombing campaign. Of course, that doesn't include the 3,000 who died in the 9/11 attacks as a result of the Bush administration's incompetence (or worse)."
Some estimates? Yeah, by people that have no idea what they are talking about. Most reliable estimates put the number of non-combat civilian casualties at one to two thousand.
I am no Republican supporter, but I find the quote that blames the screwups on the Bush administration laughable. The FBI, CIA, and NIS was not created by the current administration.
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Heston isn't afraid of nabisco... He is afraid of the same people the founding fathers were.
All that crap is maybe true maybe not true maybe half true..... Bottom line... does any of it lower or raise the price of 92 octane at the pump? That is the only tangible thing.
lazs
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It's too bad a piece like this has phrases like "Bush steals the election" and "3,000 who died in the 9-11 attacks due to the Bush administration's incompitence." Any valid points in this article are immediately dismissed by a substancial propotion of your audience with those catch-phrases.
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People will see black helicopters and vans parked outside their houses all the time. That is the most rediculous story I have read to date. Journalism has really taken a nose dive in the past 20 years.
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Hmmmmm. I give it a 7.5 for content, an 8 for opening line and a 7 for bait placement. ;)
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
It's too bad a piece like this has phrases like "Bush steals the election" and "3,000 who died in the 9-11 attacks due to the Bush administration's incompitence."Any valid points in this article are immediately dismissed by a substancial propotion of your audience with those catch-phrases.
Yup, that is exactly where I went into :rolleyes:-mode and stopped taking the post seriously.
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At best, the oil aspects are a "collateral benefit" for the current administration and the oil industry. One they are more than willing to act on after the fact, but a bit of a stretch (quite a bit) to assume a deeper connection. Now, the link to the oil insudtry and the Bush administration is very clear, but then most parties and individual campaigns have "special buddies" that get special deals at our expense.
You can't be a serious US politician today without $$$, and that money is expected to buy more than face time. You could argue that Enron didn't get it's $$$ worth, but then the implosion was beyond the scope of help. And look how "Serious" the administration has become with Worldcom. Where was that with Enron? Enron would have (and its peers will) receive plenty of goodness should H.R. 4 make it though the Senate without major ammendments. ANWR may be out , but then some felt it was only added to distract attention from the subtle corp. welfare provisions that will stay without much comment :)
Charon
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The amusing part, is that sikboy is dumb enough to belive that BS. Just a little common sense would tell you, the lefties over a CNN are drooling for a story like that. You would have long since heard about it.
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Huh.
Looks frightening.
Remember, US Congress declared KLA a "terrorist organisation" in 1998, and in 1999 NATO, led by the US, started to openly support Albanian terrorists and started an unprovoked agression against Yugoslavia?
Politics mixed with Big Money is always a dirty thing...
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Boroda. You have admitted missing communism. AND being part of the privileged class, under that old system. You are about as left wing as George Bush. You dont give a sh*& what happens to other people, as long as you get your piece.
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Originally posted by easymo
The amusing part, is that sikboy is dumb enough to belive that BS. Just a little common sense would tell you, the lefties over a CNN are drooling for a story like that. You would have long since heard about it.
I dunno Sikboy...
Name calling is definitely considered as a score. Not a lunker though.
:D
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There are some stupid posts on this board, but this one is near the top.
I can make just as many ubsustanitated accusations about anyone in the world. It is simple to do when you do not cite real sources.
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Originally posted by Gadfly
There are some stupid posts on this board, but this one is near the top.
Yes, as it turns out, this is too stinky. I even worked pretty hard to dress it up (Thanks for noticing Target, I was going to go with "I can't believe this!" as the subject line, but was affriad it would be too ambiguous)
Anyhow, I picked this one up over at a football board, and there were people there defending it, so I figured someone over here would bite too.
In the end, even if the author had cited sources, he would be left at best with a circumstantial case, and could easily be hired on as a speechwriter for Larouche 2004.
Oh well back to the drawing board.
-Sikboy
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lazs2 says:
All that crap is maybe true maybe not true maybe half true..... Bottom line... does any of it lower or raise the price of 92 octane at the pump? That is the only tangible thing.
spoken like a true American redneck who can't or won't see beyond his own nose.:rolleyes:
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Originally posted by hawk220
lazs2 says:
All that crap is maybe true maybe not true maybe half true..... Bottom line... does any of it lower or raise the price of 92 octane at the pump? That is the only tangible thing.
spoken like a true American redneck who can't or won't see beyond his own nose.:rolleyes:
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That's the Spirit!
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I thought the opening part about the oil sounded familiar, its lifted partially from an article that apeared in The Sydney Morning Herald Magazine, Good Weekend, April 13, 2002.
http://www.richardneville.com/Content_Cafe/Unsayable.pdf
Tronsky
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Originally posted by easymo
Boroda. You have admitted missing communism. AND being part of the privileged class, under that old system. You are about as left wing as George Bush. You dont give a sh*& what happens to other people, as long as you get your piece.
How bad :(
I do miss Soviet socialism. We had some things better then in the capitalist countries, some worse. What we have here now is another story. I'd call it as much freedom as we can have without any state social policy, and I like it untill I see old people begging in the streets...
Here I am "right", that means "liberal", but I read radical-left (or how should I call National-Bolshevik party?) newspapers and sometimes drink with monarchists. I just want to be left alone by any kind of Big Brother, including our beloved law-enforcement (Leonid has an idea of my attitude to Russian authorities), monopolies from Gazprom to Microsoft, politicians calling us to the barricades, and, definetly, your Land of Freedom and Democracy.
Privileged class?! LOL! You know nothing about life in USSR.
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Sikboy,
Soylent Green was the wrong bait-enhancer to spray on before you trolled that bait.
Regards, Shuckins
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As an animal-rights activist and praticing cannibal I saw nothing wrong with Solyent Green. What could be a better way to deal with our Taliban prisoners than to feed the homeless with them?
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Originally posted by Elfenwolf
What could be a better way to deal with our Taliban prisoners than to feed the homeless with them? [/B]
I worry about the homless getting too much protien from Soylent Green. If they had more energy, they might get fiesty, and cause trouble in my suburban neighborhood. I like our current strategy of pumping them full of drugs and mad dog 20/20
-Sikboy
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Hum, grandma flavor. She used to love me so much, now I enjoy her classic taste along with granpa bits and pieces.
And now also available, all HOT and SPICY western barbecue serial rapist killer flavor. A sure delight for the whole family.
Buy Soylent Green, its great and nutritious!
:D
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When will we ever learn
The answer my friend is blowing in the wind, the answer is blowing in the wind.
Oops, sorry this aint the singer thread. :D
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hawk... you seem to have trouble with the word "tangible".
lazs
"lazs2 says:
All that crap is maybe true maybe not true maybe half true..... Bottom line... does any of it lower or raise the price of 92 octane at the pump? That is the only tangible thing.
spoken like a true American redneck who can't or won't see beyond his own nose.
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Please drink and drive....I need the kidney."
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Yes Sikboy this all true!
Here are the details.... Or at least what the whacko diddlyer leftists must have in their heads…
A group of big-nosed Jewish oil financiers from Texas, who own GWB, the current government, and want that Caspian sea oil, arranged a secret deal with Al Qaeda and the Taliban to attack New York and the Pentagon. You see in return for attacking the USA the Talibs and Al Qaeda got to meet Allah and his 71 dark haired virgins in the thousands first by dying in the suicide planes and then also by the inevitable USA invasion of Afghanistan. The USA government Texas oil conspiracy, in return for just a few thousand dead Americans and Billions of dollars damage got to put in its speculative oil pipeline. Everyone is happy, well except for the "people" dutifully represented by left wing Bush/Cheney haters like yourself and the writers of this article. BTW it's a little known fact that poor little Johnny Walker is just a patsy of sorts. In fact he was a patriotic American and middleman in this whole deal and arranged all the fine details between the US conspirators and the terrorists, his mission was so top secret he did not even tell the CIA operatives who interrogated him in Mazar. Now he's being imprisoned just to keep quiet about the conspiracy.
Yep that’s true.... :rolleyes:
When will you piece of toejam amazinhunks stop trying to insinuate that somehow somewhere America caused 911 attacks so it could get oil?
Honestly from the bottom of my heart diddly YOU!
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
Yes Sikboy this all true!
blah blah blah
ROFL... can I get a ruling here?
-Sikboy
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Hook Line and Sinker..... This one's too far gone for a catch and release program. :cool:
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You tulips cant just get away from your irresponsible accusations by calling Troll. The leftist whackos you love so much have been accusing the US govrnmet or US business or US military of causing Sept 11 for their own personal gain since 911. This was BS on day one and it's diddlying BS 11 months later.
So again diddly YOU! If you hate oil companies so much buy a damn bike.
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Originally posted by GRUNHERZ
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So again diddly YOU! If you hate oil companies so much buy a damn bike.
Indeed lol
-Sikboy
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Originally posted by Sikboy
ROFL... can I get a ruling here?
-Sikboy
Not only hooked... seen those fishing shows where the large mouth bass jumps up out of the water and thrashes around trying to dislodge the hook?
That's what this is.... Trophy Bass! :D
Think I'll start calling you Roland. :D
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Sikboy, well done! 7 points for each profanity uttered by Grunherz, two points for his all caps response and five points because he was so pissed off he double posted to tell us all again to go blank ourselves. Let's see...that's 14 points!! Dude! If he woulda squelched you that would have been a new record for points! WTG Grasshopper!!!!!
Grunherz, where did you find that article about the big-nosed Jewish Texans being responsible for 9-11? Are these the same Jewish Texans that import exotic animals and then hunt them? I wonder what a Jewish Texan would taste like? Probably less impurities in the meat by following a kosher diet. Might be a bit bland tho, so I'd cook Jewish Texan in a crock pot with lots of paprika.
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That article was interesting and seemed objective up to the point of blaming Bush. Objectivity flew the coop at that point. Of course I've no idea if there is a word of truth in the whole thing. But then who cares about truth any more? Seems it's all about spin.
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I'm not so sure about the trophy bass. The Grunfish will always bite on anything even slightly resembling liberal lefty. The faint odor of liberal lefty will cause him to rise like a bottle rocket.
While the fight is always worthwhile with the Grunfish, they remain easily nabbed.
Now the Hort fish on the other hand! Them's good eatin! :D
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LOL True, but Sikboy isn't a leftist- he's an anarchist. All that was missing were threats of physical abuse. All in all great entertainment value. Well done, gentlemen. (pats Sikboy on the back, shakes hands with a stunned and bewildered Grunherz)