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Title: Check it out!
Post by: Masherbrum on August 01, 2002, 10:22:21 AM: http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/01/teen.abduction/index.html
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Post by: Maverick on August 01, 2002, 09:21:58 PM: All I can think to say about this is, Problem solved. There will be no recidivism on this hemorhoids part.
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Post by: hawk220 on August 02, 2002, 09:55:14 AM: takin' out the trash, baby!
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Post by: fdiron on August 02, 2002, 09:56:15 AM: I am glad that guy was shot in the head. Hes probably in hell right now.

On a side note, I found it very disturbing that the girls were out at 2am in a secluded area. Even if they were with their boyfriends, some caution needs to be exercised. I certainly do not drive through the seedy parts of Louisville Kentucky past dark.
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Post by: Elfenwolf on August 02, 2002, 10:04:54 AM: "We don't have to worry about him being rehabilitated. We don't have to worry about the Supreme Court. He is deceased."
-Kern County Sheriff Carl Sparks

"They say you shouldn't say nothing about the dead unless it's good. He's dead. Good."
-Moms Mably

I hope the two girls that were raped make a full recovery both emotionally and physically. I hope the two deputies who shot the animal suffer no remorse or ill effects and realize they did their job. I hope Roy Ratliff burns in Hell through all eternity.
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Post by: capt. apathy on August 02, 2002, 10:06:29 AM: This guy should have never been on the street. If states are going to have a ‘3-strikes and you’re out’ law bail should be denied when you are charged with your 3rd offence. Why the hell would they let a known sex offender with nothing to lose (he was facing charges that would put him away for life) loose in the world for 1 last big hunt. to me the end result seemed highly predictable (the crime not the very good police work).
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Post by: midnight Target on August 02, 2002, 10:08:02 AM: It's not a seedy area. It is a well known overlook and parking spot. It overlooks the airport. The surprise was how few people were there.

One of the local stations actually found out that one of the girls was not with her boyfriend! They interviewed the boyfriend and the reporter had the nerve to ask why she was up there with someone else. This 17 yr old kid had the presence of mind to say " That isn't important right now (they hadn't found the girls yet) and I can't believe you would ask me that question!" I think that boy should get a freakin medal for having a clear mind at his young age.
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Post by: Elfenwolf on August 02, 2002, 10:14:19 AM: apathy, he hadn't been captured yet for the previous Kern County rape according to what I've read. He was facing a 3-strikes sentance whenever they would have caught him when he did this.

What saved these girls was the Amber Alert system we have in place in California. Except for the rape part I'm sure most of us can accept the result of this monster's activities.
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Post by: capt. apathy on August 02, 2002, 10:19:13 AM: my mistake, I thought he had been charged and released(must've mis read it).

do they give bail pending trial for 3-strike charges?
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Post by: Masherbrum on August 02, 2002, 10:29:34 AM: I know Capt. Apathy. The main problem is that most parole boards will let these guys out, EVEN THOUGH, sex offenders will tell anyone, "I cannot stop!".

Masher
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Post by: Mickey1992 on August 02, 2002, 10:48:17 AM: Think of the tax dollars saved. No trial, no incarceration, no decade-long appeal process.

I read in another article that the two officers that approached the vehicle didn't know that the girls were inside when the suspect fired and they returned fire (you can see the blacked-out windows). Thank Cod none of the rounds hit the girls.
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Post by: Elfenwolf on August 02, 2002, 10:54:45 AM: Quote
Originally posted by capt. apathy
my mistake, I thought he had been charged and released(must've mis read it).

do they give bail pending trial for 3-strike charges?

I don't think they bail 3-strikes offenders pending trial, but I'm not 100% sure. Also I guess he WAS a parolee. It's amazing we allow sex offenders three opportunities to ruin peoples' lives before we lock them up and throw away the key, huh? I don't know but it seems to me that sex offenders can't be rehabilitated so why do we apply the same standards with a sex offender that we do with a burgular? One strike is enough for some of these monsters, IMO.
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Post by: blur on August 02, 2002, 10:58:02 AM: Day by day are basic freedoms are eroded. Now it’s almost impossible for a guy to get a decent piece of ass.
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Post by: Mickey1992 on August 02, 2002, 12:02:42 PM: EDIT
I have edited my post because now I think I understand what Blur was saying. :)
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Post by: midnight Target on August 02, 2002, 12:37:46 PM: I think what blur is saying is that there isn't a safe decent place to park anymore.
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Post by: capt. apathy on August 02, 2002, 12:45:00 PM: This issue really causes a lot of internal conflict with me.

I firmly believe in the right to a fair trial.

I believe everyone should be considered innocent until being found guilty by a jury of your peers in a court of law. (This includes fair and professional treatment of suspects by police and correctional officers)

I am firmly against the death penalty (mostly because we make mistakes and you can't take back dead.)

The right to reasonable bail until your guilt has been established

And in most cases I think sentencing should focus on changing behavior, or at least removing them from the opportunity to repeat the crime, and not just on punishing or getting even with an offender.

All that said. I also find myself profoundly relieved that this filth is dead.

In the case of sex offenders or people who prey on kids. I feel - no matter how much it goes against what I believe both spiritually (all can be forgiven) and my political views- that there are acts you can commit that cause you to forfeit your rights as a human. I don't see it as vengeance or even punishment. It’s like putting down a rabid dog, or killing a dangerous animal that has lost his fear of people.

In these cases, and with irrefutable evidence (as in this case where he was caught in the act, or in the Dodd case years ago where they found pictures and clothing from the murdered children in his apartment). I find myself not just in support of the death penalty but relieved by it. And the sooner the better. No technicalities no trial just a bullet. And hopefully the guy does something stupid during his arrest so the cop can shoot him with no remorse or second thought at all.
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Post by: Lance on August 02, 2002, 03:24:32 PM: Quote
"We don't have to worry about him being rehabilitated," Sparks said of Ratliff. "We don't have to worry about the Supreme Court. He is deceased."

Isn't that some dialog from one of the MacManus brothers in Boondock Saints?

Glad the girls weren't hurt any worse than they were and that the police that found them were unscathed.
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Post by: blur on August 03, 2002, 09:17:39 AM: My previous post was purposely ambiguous.
;)
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Post by: Fishu on August 03, 2002, 10:12:18 AM: These girls were very lucky, hopefully their life in the future will be good.
At least they don't have to be afraid or even be thinking of the guy coming back, sheriffs sure took care of that.
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Post by: BUG_EAF322 on August 03, 2002, 10:37:53 AM: A little wonder

I hope the raper gonna burn in hell
His end was to soft