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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: -ammo- on August 07, 2002, 10:34:14 PM
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My athlon 1.4 (XP) started out running in the 40-47 degree delcious range, but recently it is more common for it to get into the high 50's when running AH. Just yesterday my high temp alarm went off telling me I reached the 60 degree celcious mark. Temporarily I took the side and face off the case to get more ventilation.
I want to replace my volcano 5 with something more effective, but then again I dont want to go with water cooling or something else very expensive. Any reccomendations? Woluld 60 degrees celcious bother you?
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Zalman heatsinks with 80mm fans. I'd buy one but I'm looking parts for water cooling.
http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff/fun-stuff/5a94.shtml
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60 C isn't dangerous, but it's close to the limits for practicality. What worries me is that the temps keep rising.
The Volcano 6 might perform a little better. I haven't used the Zalman "flower" coolers, but I was looking at one and they look interesting.
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Something's going on there, Ammo. Maybe the fan is starting to fail.
I was thinking my next cooler will be the Alpha Pal 8045 with an 80mm fan. I don't think there is a better mounting system, and it reportedly performs well. Its big, so you might check compatibility with your mobo.
Alpha Pal 8045 (http://www.anandtech.com/cooling/showdoc.html?i=1532&p=4)
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I was using Volcano 6Cu (copper heart) earlier and that was noisy as heck.
Next one (on the comp. now) is having pretty much similar heat-sink (little bigger) but it's having a 80mm fan with less RPM but IMO it's still too loud.
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I haven't used the Zalman "flower" coolers, but I was looking at one and they look interesting.
Great stuff they are - now the noisiest part of my rig is the fan on a video card :)
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make sure the heat sink is cleaned of dust too. mine builds up a ton over time.
you can never have too many case fans btw. ask fatty!
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Lotta fan noise adds to immersion!
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I am running an Athlon XP 1600+ overclocked to 1.6Ghz (152 FSB x 10.5mp)
My temperatures usually hang around 45c idle and 48c full load, running an Alpha 8045 + Sunon 80mm fan (AWESOME heatsink).
Just today while playing AH, my PC hanged. When I rebooted and checked the bios, the temperature was 80c. I checked the case in disbelief, and the CPU fan was stuck! :eek:
I quickly turned the PC off and fixed the problem, temperatures back to normal. What amazed me was that the CPU survived up to 80c+, and even ran stable until it reached almost 90c
Lesson learned, NEVER turn off Motherboard Monitor and its very useful high temperature alarm.
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AMD Thermal, Mechanical, and Chassis Cooling Design Guide
http://www.amd.com/us-en/assets/content_type/white_papers_and_tech_docs/23794.pdf
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bought this loud thing, but it did what it was advertised to do, it dtropped my temps under load to the mid 40's (C). Was at teh local COMP USA:)
http://www.antec-inc.com/f_reference.html
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Try some simple KISS ENGINEERING..> get a can of compressed air and blow the "dust bunnies" away. Then go to the next step if you have to.
47C = 116.6F
60C = 140.0F
sprint
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CPU temperatures in my computer (AMD Thunderbird 1,4GHz/A7M266) are 55c idle and 59c when running 20 Pifast tests (http://www.stagas.net/pics/heat_test_20xPiFast.gif).
Heatsink/fan is Tiger Miprocool II (http://www.tigercooler.com.tw/english/cc_sda3867236bt.htm).
Now the fan is sucking air out from HS; I'll chance the direction of airflow later to see if it lowers the temperatures.
Edit: Changed the direction of flow; no changes to temps.
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Staga, did directions say to mount the fan to pull air off the heatsink? I bet you will see better efficiency blowing air down over the cooling fins. I haven't tested this, I just have feeling...
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Originally posted by Gunthr
Staga, did directions say to mount the fan to pull air off the heatsink? I bet you will see better efficiency blowing air down over the cooling fins. I haven't tested this, I just have feeling...
Depending on the design.
My Alpha is meant to have the fan sucking air out, if you reverse it you will gain a few degrees.
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I just ran a vent hose from my air-conditioner to my case. dropped the cpu temp 20+ deg's F.
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Originally posted by capt. apathy
I just ran a vent hose from my air-conditioner to my case. dropped the cpu temp 20+ deg's F.
If you are not kidding and this is true, I suggest you REMOVE IT NOW BEFORE YOU GET CONDENSATION AND KILL YOUR PC
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staga, my CPU temp (xp1600) was running at 52C at idle, and 58-60C under load. I have three case fans (the rear two are pushing, the front is pulling). I switched from a volcano 5 sink and fan to the above mentioned product and I am now sitting at 41C at idle, and I got as high as 48C last night after 2 hours of AH. It is noisier, but not terribly. The ANTEC setup cost me 30$ at a local COMPUSA vs the $10 for the volcano 5.
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actually as long as you are not cooling the air inside your case (as oposed to cooling it in the a/c unit, then venting it to your case) you will have no condensation.
when you cool air it can carry less moisture so it drops some as condensation, (on mine this happens in the a/c unit) this cold air goes to the case and is pushed tward the cpu by a fan, where it warms up and can carry much more moisture, thus lowering the relitive humidity in the air.
basicly air is being warmed in my case, not cooled so the case humidity is actually much lower than the rest of the room.
I've been running it this way since May and the amount of dust build up is much less also(since I have the a/c filtering the air before it pushes it into the case at a higher rate than the power fan removes air. so any openings in my case vent outward and dust cant get in as easy.)
the only place I get any condensation is on the outside of the first 6" of the vent hose after it leaves the a/c. and that has nothing to do with the inside of my case.
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I have an Athlon XP 2200, and I was boggling at the temps. It was running at 75-80C, and I couldn't figure out why.
I had good RPMs, good circulation, everything. I replaced the thermal conductor w/ silver paste, and finally started pricing out water cooling components before noticing something....
Side view of CPU mounting area
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My heatsink was mounted so:
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Whoops....
Once I turned the block around, temp dropped to idle of 47C. Still warm, but quite a bit better.
Thermaltake Volcano 6 Cu
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Guys,
I'm haveing a problem that is like Ammo's. I run a XP 2100+ and it's been running between 49 and 55 at idel depending on outside temps. Yesterday for some reason the CPU temps went up at idel to between 61 and 63!!! I thought maybe the CPU fan stoped spinning. Asus Probe shows the fan spinning at 6000 rpm and a visual inspection shows it spinning. I reseated the heatsink and tried it again. The Temps still climbed right up to the low 60's. Tried Reseating the Sink again and it still has no effect. I wanted to see how hot it was going to run under load so I loaded up AH for a run , alt-tabing out every 3 minutes of so to make sure the heat wasn't going to high. To my surprise the temps only climbed a few degrees. The temps climbed to 65 and leveled there. On a normal day I would be in panic over these temps but for some reason I don't think the readings were right. First off, it wasn't abnormaly warm in the house yesterday, 2nd, normaly there is a about a 8 to 10 degree climb in temp on the cpu when under load. I was not seeing that climb. It climbed no more then 3 degree's underload. My thoughts at this point is my temp sensor is reading wrong. To further complicate matters, my temp right now while i'm writing this is holding at 55 degs, this is a touch higher then normal but not as abnormal as yesterday. I am useing the stock AMD heatinsk and fan for now but I took the liberty of ordering a Volcano 9 lastnight from Coolerguys. I don't think the heatsink was the issue but it won't hurt to replace it anyway. Any Ideas why I saw this temp spike yesterday? Is it possible the temp sensor was giving me faulty info? IF that the case, why does it seem to be " normal" this morning ?
Vati
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Not sure but IIRC some motherboards are giving too high temperature values.
Back to work; just bought BlackIce watercooler with 120mm fan, Only4Pro copper cpu-block and Hydor Seltz water-pump... :D
Edit:
watercooling rules; some air still in system and very hot room but temps went down from 59c to 48c when running 20 Pifast tests :)
Oh and it's quiet, video-card's fan is the noisiest thing now...
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My old A7M266 found a new home from my second computer and I bought a Soltek SL-75DRV5 (http://www.soltek.de/English/home/01.htm) motherboard (really good mobo btw).
Looks like A7M266 heat sensors are quite pessimistic, now with this mobo and watercooling my temps are 37c idle and 39c with pifasts running...
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Just for curiosity: I left MBMonitor to write the tempratures to the log when I begun to play.
Soltek mobo has a extra heat-sensor and I did put it under the GPU of Gf4
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/system/temper_log.gif)