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Title: Erich Hartmann
Post by: CaptainA on August 08, 2002, 07:22:17 PM

Erich Hartmann had 352 ariel kills, he was the top german ace

Read about him here --------> http://www.acepilots.com/misc_hartmann.html

Title: Erich Hartmann
Post by: whgates3 on August 09, 2002, 02:52:18 AM

the Sept 2002 Worla War II magazine has a 10 page Erich Hartmann interview & there is a nice Hartmann story here:
http://www.virtualpilots.fi/en/hist/WW2History-ErichHartmann.html#p51vshartmann

Title: Erich Hartmann
Post by: udet on August 09, 2002, 01:26:50 PM

awesome story whgates. I can't believe some dumb American officer turned him to the bloody commies.

Title: Erich Hartmann
Post by: lord dolf vader on August 12, 2002, 07:01:21 PM

he was a nazi after all. and there was a 50k reward for him from stalin.  that is like 500k now. the first reason was enough the second well most would have done it for alot less. or for free. amazing part is stalin didnt hang him.

Title: Erich Hartmann
Post by: NOD2000 on August 12, 2002, 08:20:13 PM

probably cuz stalin didn't capture him eric surrendered to the US of A while he was in command of a 262 squadron

Title: Erich Hartmann
Post by: whgates3 on August 13, 2002, 03:46:08 AM

...he surrendered the USAAF, and was subsequently handed over to uncle joe. This was probably considered diplomacy, as at the time CCCP was not@war w/ nippon and his help was wanted. stalin probably didn't kill him, as he was a vindictive (an understatment) fu><0r and not religous, so the only way to make Hartmann suffer was in the gulag.

Title: Erich Hartmann
Post by: Wotan on August 13, 2002, 06:03:20 AM

He surrendered to the British and was turned over to the russians as descision made by the allies.

Title: Erich Hartmann
Post by: whgates3 on August 14, 2002, 01:59:38 AM

hmmm - the same web site that has the story i put in the link to also says "After surrendering to the Americans at Pisek, Hartmann was turned over to the Russians by the U.S. authorities". i read elsewhere that he was ordered to surrender to the RAF, and that his surrender took place in the British sector...several other web sites say he surrendered to the british - anyone seen a good pic of Hartmann's F-86 on the web?
this (i'm assuming, from the tulip pattern on the nose)

(http://www.virtualpilots.fi/en/hist/kuvat/ww2history-erichhartmann4.jpg)

is the only one i've seen & the hottest paint job i've seen on a Sabre