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Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: AKDejaVu on August 08, 2002, 11:11:46 PM
If it looks a little garbled.. reload it....

Tour 30 (http://www.users.qwest.net/~stainesdavidwbon/webs/Tour30/Tour30.htm)
Enjoy!

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Toad on August 08, 2002, 11:38:44 PM
Perk something! QUICK! Perk SOMETHING!
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Spatula on August 09, 2002, 01:19:05 AM
Damned pony dweebs...
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Saintaw on August 09, 2002, 02:49:59 AM
Yak9U Vs Ostwind is quite interesting :D
I wonder who's trying to actually kill Ostwinds with that ?:eek:

Thx Djv!
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Nomde on August 09, 2002, 03:31:47 AM
Wow, the p47-d30 against ship gunner
8  kills to 757 deaths  :eek:

Ok gents, learn to fly my beloved before going suicide. These stats are breaking my heart :p

Big thanks DejaVu, excellent work putting these stats together
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Mitsu on August 09, 2002, 05:04:16 AM
WTG Ki-61 drivers. :D
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Widewing on August 09, 2002, 07:15:50 AM
What these stats tell me is that the new furball king is the awesome General Motors FM-2.

BTW, great job as always Deja!


My regards,

Widewing
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: hblair on August 09, 2002, 08:01:25 AM
Thanks DJ. :)
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Wotan on August 09, 2002, 08:06:20 AM
hblair porked my zeke k/d i died 3 or 4 times trying to vulch him :)
Title: WTG!
Post by: HeLLcAt on August 09, 2002, 11:14:27 AM
HEY Great stats you got there...and anyone who is a Hellcat pilot...WTFG! We did pretty sweet considering the plane and how slow it is ;)! ALL!

~BlueiceJ~
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Furious on August 09, 2002, 12:18:38 PM
LOL,

I account for more than 10% of all kills in a P-51B.

...well, its funny to me anyways.



F.
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Raubvogel on August 09, 2002, 12:29:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Mitsu
WTG Ki-61 drivers. :D


I flew Ki61 last tour...probably dragged the ratio down hehe :)
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: gatso on August 09, 2002, 12:39:21 PM
Can claim 7% of those Tempest kills under my old handle  :D , would have been more if I hadn't changed said bye bye to all the perkies 1/2 way through the tour. :(

Big congrats to all the FM2 drivers. Nice shooting all.

Gatso
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Puck on August 09, 2002, 01:46:06 PM
FM2 stats (and my score) would be a lot better if I quit upping it on vulched fields.
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Swager on August 09, 2002, 02:05:29 PM
Looks like the 109F4 is holding it's own!  :)
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: laz on August 09, 2002, 02:37:33 PM
I flew tony quite a bit.. somewhere around 25-30 kills 2- 3 deaths
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: CMC Airboss on August 09, 2002, 03:57:56 PM
Moral of this story:  Don't fly the Boston III against anything except C-47's!

Great job on the breakdown.

MiG
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Zippatuh on August 09, 2002, 06:06:52 PM
I'll claim 10% of the F4U-4 kills.


What was that...  change the icon...  I thought that's what you said :).
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: AKDejaVu on August 11, 2002, 10:10:17 PM
Wow... not a single comment on the fact that no aircraft accounted for more than 9% of the total fighter kills.  I don't believe that has happened before.

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Sachs on August 11, 2002, 10:17:14 PM
And why is the 152 perked again?  Shakes head at this one still.  because it was produced in low numbers is all I can think of.  At high alt it rocks but anything lower in the MA it is not the same as the other non perked rides.  I think this one needs to be re-evaluated about its perkness.
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Vulcan on August 11, 2002, 10:47:53 PM
Bollocks. At low alt the 152 is still uber.

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Originally posted by Sachs
And why is the 152 perked again?  Shakes head at this one still.  because it was produced in low numbers is all I can think of.  At high alt it rocks but anything lower in the MA it is not the same as the other non perked rides.  I think this one needs to be re-evaluated about its perkness.
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Karnak on August 11, 2002, 11:01:20 PM
DejaVu,

Unless I am very mistaken, the last few tours have been the same.  The Spitfire Mk IX (previous leader) did not account for 10% of the kills in the last few tours.

Not that this will change anything, people will still squeak about the Spit, La-7 and N1K2 while completely ignoring the P-51D.
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: AKDejaVu on August 11, 2002, 11:51:16 PM
You're mistaken Karnak.  Last tour both the N1K2 and Spit IX were over 10% for fighter kills.  Tour 29 (http://www.users.qwest.net/~stainesdavidwbon/webs/Tour29/Tour29.htm).

This is the first time one's been lower than 10%... hell... its lower than 9%.

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Puke on August 11, 2002, 11:54:27 PM
Karnak, sure the Spit has.  I just changed the link to "29"'s to view the last tour and Spit and N1K are both at 10%.  And that's just one variant of Spit.  Add up all the variants to each aircraft type and the Spits are stomping on everyone else in terms of total kills...I think hovering near 20% of the kills.  Spits are a plague.

http://www.users.qwest.net/~stainesdavidwbon/webs/Tour29/Tour29.htm
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Epsilon 5 on August 12, 2002, 12:20:53 AM
while the p51d got the most kills, it's pretty average on the kill ratio .. nice ... and p51b have a better kill ratio :D
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Karnak on August 12, 2002, 02:00:06 AM
Nice dodge Epsilon 5.

The Spit has always been very average on K/D as well, yet it gets soundly damned while the P-51D gets off free.  From my perspective, based on the aircraft I like to fly, the P-51 is far, far more annoying than the Spitfire could ever be.

Tour 29:

All planes have 420800 kills and have been killed 420800 times.

The Spitfire Mk IX has 29374 kills and has been killed 29811 times.

That is 7.084% of the kills in Tour 29.  Far below 10%.
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: AKDejaVu on August 12, 2002, 07:57:51 AM
Karnak... you are taking totals into account.

That's not what most people percieve as the issue.  When they "see" an aircraft too much... its as a fighter.  Nobody really cares how much someothing attacks GVs or Bombers.

Like I said (in both posts)... this is the first time no fighter has had more than 10% of all fighter kills.

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Toad on August 12, 2002, 08:02:22 AM
Now Deja, if we're not going to pick and choose which stats we like, what fun is it going to be?

;)

Fighter V Fighter is really the only one that counts for me... but that's just me. I don't care how many goons any plane killed..... it doesn't mean much.
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Wotan on August 12, 2002, 08:55:20 AM
top 10 unperked k/d in the fighter v fighter is all I care about :)

3 190s in that list :)
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: AKDejaVu on August 12, 2002, 10:09:38 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Toad
Now Deja, if we're not going to pick and choose which stats we like, what fun is it going to be?

;)

Fighter V Fighter is really the only one that counts for me... but that's just me. I don't care how many goons any plane killed..... it doesn't mean much.
Hehehe....

Of course.. the title of this thread IS "fighter vs Fighter Stats" ;)

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: 214thCavalier on August 12, 2002, 11:09:30 AM
Hmm just keep getting DNS error msg.
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Eagler on August 12, 2002, 12:44:30 PM
AKDejaVu

this stat is boring

please spend your life providing us the other one which listed plane type by top pilots

thank you :)
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: AKDejaVu on August 12, 2002, 12:46:19 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Eagler
AKDejaVu

this stat is boring

please spend your life providing us the other one which listed plane type by top pilots

thank you :)
I'd love to... but I don't think its going to happen unless HiTech has a pretty dramatic change of mind.

AKDejaVu
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: Nifty on August 13, 2002, 09:46:15 AM
The best way to get top 10s is to ask HTC to do it on their end.  Deja has to do it by querying the stat page for each pilot.  That's quite a few queries on the webserver, and is probably why HTC doesn't want him doing it.
Title: Tour 30 FighterVsFighter Stats (Crown the new king)
Post by: AKDejaVu on August 13, 2002, 10:57:44 AM
That's basically the ticket Nifty.  HTC would not have a problem doing it on their side of the house... but then that's another web site that Ronnie has to create.

HTC knows about this... about the only thing to do is to leave him FRIENDLY reminders.  Maybe they'll get around to it some time.

AKDejaVu