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Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: whels on August 09, 2002, 01:13:35 PM
since GVs get GV supplies to repair/rearm. why not allow
Goons to be able to load up AV fuel supply crates.
then can fly to the fuelless plane and drop off the fuel and allow the plane to resupply it fuel like 50 gallons, enough to get u home
hopefully or if u deadsticked to field, would allow u to taxi to runway for safe landing.




whels
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: Puck on August 09, 2002, 01:43:08 PM
I think a more realistic approach is in order.  

Somewhere around here I have a GENUINE fake picture taken in WWII during the battle of Midway showing an F4F undergoing aerial refueling from an F6F carrying buddy stores.
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: Ripsnort on August 09, 2002, 02:00:31 PM
Seems like a reasonable thing to do, after all, one line of code could allow the C47's to "resupply" aircraft with fuel. (Okay, maybe not one line of code, but time-wise, maybe a slice of pizza and a cold one? )
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: Revvin on August 09, 2002, 02:04:14 PM
Sounds horribly gamey to me and a step cloder to the arcade.
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: Ripsnort on August 09, 2002, 02:05:40 PM
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Originally posted by Revvin
Sounds horribly gamey to me and a step cloder to the arcade.


Ahh...okay....:rolleyes:

Personally, I'd find nothing sweeter than a perk plane being circled by a goon dropping supplies near it. :D

Think "Target opportunity" Revvin :D
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: Revvin on August 09, 2002, 02:15:46 PM
If you have historical reference's of this exact operation being conducted on more than a few occassions then fair enough but I've not heard of such an instance.
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: gofaster on August 09, 2002, 02:18:18 PM
When I'm out of gas, I just fly towards Whels and let him shoot me down.  He's done it twice already! :)

Cakes ^Skull^
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: ZeroPing on August 09, 2002, 02:21:46 PM
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If you have historical reference's of this exact operation being conducted on more than a few occassions then fair enough but I've not heard of such an instance.


Not many things in MA are close to historicaly correct, At least that i know of.
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: muckmaw on August 09, 2002, 02:23:38 PM
Sounds like too much work for too little an improvement. How often do guys really ditch due to fuel issues? And how often do you ditch over land?

I'd rather see the same concept be used, except to rescue the pilot, and save his streak, or perks. This concept has been discussed ad nauseum but I still like it.

So, instead of refueling the plane, bring in a goon, or a PBY to pick up the pilot, toss an incendiary grenade in the ditched bird, and fly on home.

I'd be the first guy to sign up for Search and Rescue Ops.
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: BenDover on August 09, 2002, 02:28:40 PM
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Originally posted by Puck
I think a more realistic approach is in order.  

Somewhere around here I have a GENUINE fake picture taken in WWII during the battle of Midway showing an F4F undergoing aerial refueling from an F6F carrying buddy stores.



how do you have a genuine fake?
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: Wlfgng on August 09, 2002, 03:14:06 PM
Anna Nicole Smith
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: KG45 on August 09, 2002, 04:28:31 PM
how about a rail-gun for dweebs what run out of gas and gotta bail out.

that'll give those chute-shooters something to think about

:eek:
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: gatso on August 09, 2002, 04:32:00 PM
Wlfgng, lol :D

Must say I very rarely ditch for lack of fuel, when it is I've usually got a fuel leak and run out fairly close to base.  Most times I ditch it's because of radiator hits.  

Goons/PBY's/H8K2/Whatever coming to rescue/refuel me would be very sweet.  Can only see squaddies doing it though and I'd only ask if I was close to a home field.  Maybe if the rewards (perks) were high enough a few people might risk it.  Maybe a percentage of the guy you picked ups perks plus X amount per pilot rescued?

Wouldn't it be really cool to shoot down a '47 after him rescueing 5 guys and see 6 chutes come out?  :)  Chute shooting heaven.  :D

Gatso
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: whels on August 09, 2002, 06:07:35 PM
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Originally posted by Revvin
Sounds horribly gamey to me and a step cloder to the arcade.



about as gamey as plane stopping 2 inches off runway and called a ditch, when in RL they just roll the plane onto the runway, then to the revetment for refuel and rearm for next mission. here if no ton runway, u considered to have lost the plane.

whels
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: Revvin on August 09, 2002, 07:05:20 PM
^ I agree and just as gamey as the 15 second re-arm refuel pads but why add another gamey feature to fix another?

If there is some historical reference to this then fair enough but if not then the above applies IMO.
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: Midnight on August 09, 2002, 08:23:36 PM
Whels, you're a good guy, but I think you lost it on this idea.

How's this for a solution...

Know your aircraft's fuel economy, calculate how much fuel will be required to accomplish your mission, monitor your fuel capacity while in flight, and RTB when your fuel reaches your pre-determined 'BINGO' point.

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The one and only way I would even think this is remotely a good idea would be for actual fuel trucks to be available which could spawn from a re-arming point. The truck could be driven (by another player) to your aircraft where it could be given more fuel.

In this case, it would be to save a fellow pilot from receiving a ditch when they landed at/near a friendly field but didn't have enough gas to actually make it to the re-arm pad.
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: whels on August 09, 2002, 09:50:47 PM
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Originally posted by gatso
Wlfgng, lol :D

Must say I very rarely ditch for lack of fuel, when it is I've usually got a fuel leak and run out fairly close to base.  Most times I ditch it's because of radiator hits.  

Goons/PBY's/H8K2/Whatever coming to rescue/refuel me would be very sweet.  Can only see squaddies doing it though and I'd only ask if I was close to a home field.  Maybe if the rewards (perks) were high enough a few people might risk it.  Maybe a percentage of the guy you picked ups perks plus X amount per pilot rescued?

Wouldn't it be really cool to shoot down a '47 after him rescueing 5 guys and see 6 chutes come out?  :)  Chute shooting heaven.  :D

Gatso



about as gamey as landing on enemy Vbases or Airfields and getting safe landing. hummm guess u never ran outta ammo  and or fuel capping a base Midnight and landed at the enemy field?
 u always go back to the CV or field u took off from?


what im proposing is not 25% gas or more, just enough (about
size of a DT load) to get u back home. i rarely if ever run out of
fuel before i make field, unless i get a fuel leak.


whels
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: Sandman on August 10, 2002, 12:13:32 PM
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Originally posted by Midnight
Whels, you're a good guy, but I think you lost it on this idea.

How's this for a solution...

Know your aircraft's fuel economy, calculate how much fuel will be required to accomplish your mission, monitor your fuel capacity while in flight, and RTB when your fuel reaches your pre-determined 'BINGO' point.

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...and then hope that you don't get a hole in your main tank.
Title: planes out of gas n ditch, solution
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on August 10, 2002, 12:31:07 PM
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Originally posted by Revvin
If you have historical reference's of this exact operation being conducted on more than a few occassions then fair enough but I've not heard of such an instance.


I swear I saw it in Bahbahblacksheep, using the Duck:p  And don't tell me that bahbah Blacksheep is not historical!!!

P.S. Dam those 70s looking nurses were hot!