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Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: senna on August 13, 2002, 02:56:23 AM
I landed a sortie today and was severly damaged. Made it back to runway landed gears up and slid. Ended up just a bit off the runway but mostly on it. Very close the main body was on the ramp and the tail was off. Server said I ditched. That sucks. HT, how about changing it so that landing anywhere near a field is not a ditch, is really a crash landing or emergency landing. In situations like this the aircraft did make it back to base safely however just totaled it furhter upon landing.
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: senna on August 13, 2002, 03:17:39 AM
Senna of the  ++++ Blue Knights ++++ Crash Landed 4 kills in a P-38L of a wreck.


There now I dont feel jeeped off.

:D
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: whgates3 on August 13, 2002, 03:24:30 AM
there has to be a line of demarkation somewhere - you were just unlucky enough slide over the line, but if the universe is just something good will happen to you to balance it out, like you will find a quarter on the sidewalk
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Mitsu on August 13, 2002, 03:49:15 AM
hmmm, good point.

What about adding a landing zone to airfield around?

Example:
Set a Rectangular Landing Zone to Airfield around.
If you landed to the zone, system will judge you as "landed".
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Hristo on August 13, 2002, 04:23:14 AM
careful...next thing you'd have is nobody using runways anymore
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Naudet on August 13, 2002, 05:00:45 AM
Hristo, to be honest, how many WW2 airfield had real runways?
Many many times a "runway" was just a flat mud field or a nice green meadow depending on the weather.
So that why not add landing zones.
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Hristo on August 13, 2002, 06:30:21 AM
...and I thought I was clever ;)

You're right, Naudet. Changed my mind, landing zone is OK.
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Witless on August 13, 2002, 06:42:44 AM
Hi,

Funny thing happened to me today. Spawned in a hangar which had been destroyed so I hit the tower button to avoid running over the dangerous rubble on the way out. System said I'd ditched. Has it always been that way?

Cheers.........Witless/Trikky
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Mickey1992 on August 13, 2002, 08:02:27 AM
I like the idea of not only having a plane that can land and pick up downed pilots, but also having an airfield tender type of vehicle so that someone can drive and tow your bellybutton to the field if you run out of gas and land just outside the field.  Of course, with senna's wheels up heavily damaged aircraft I do not know how viable this would be.
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: NOD2000 on August 13, 2002, 01:07:51 PM
lol i had a wing tip off the runway when i landed this il-2 with 6 kills and it said you have ditched...............
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Dead Man Flying on August 13, 2002, 02:15:59 PM
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Originally posted by NOD2000
lol i had a wing tip off the runway when i landed this il-2 with 6 kills and it said you have ditched...............


Why bother landing in H2H?

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Kevin14 on August 13, 2002, 02:57:19 PM
Lol, sad but true Dead man
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: senna on August 13, 2002, 04:26:55 PM
Good point hristo. Landing on the ramp is still alot safer though since you will ensure not hitting hangers and ack guns etc... I would prefer a runway landing anyday but if I have to risk it, being off the ramp and on the field should be a safe landing. How about allowing a walk home as well. Say you crash just outside of the field and you then bail and walk on up to the field. That should be considered getting home safe also.
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: BenDover on August 13, 2002, 05:50:41 PM
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying


Why bother landing in H2H?

-- Todd/Leviathn



duh!

claim your kills:rolleyes:
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Dead Man Flying on August 13, 2002, 07:56:46 PM
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Originally posted by BenDover
duh!

claim your kills


Ah, of course.  And so by this logic, since it was unnecessary to "claim" kills prior to v1.10, I must conclude that landing kills in H2H never happened prior to the latest release.

Right?  Right.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Blank on August 13, 2002, 09:40:37 PM
I like senna's idea about walking home, just walk onto the runway and Land safely, if you crash nearby. :)
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: whgates3 on August 13, 2002, 10:16:37 PM
a good fraction of fields had paved runways, especially in europe. i think the coral runways in PTO count as paved - they weren't just large amophous area. in north africa the US engineers built over 300 miles of runway - mostly over 150' wide - in under a year. the only wide use of 'landing fields' i know of was by British fighters at auxilary fields in the Battle of Britan.
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Hristo on August 14, 2002, 06:03:22 AM
Fields on Eastern front were mainly grass
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: BenDover on August 14, 2002, 12:29:09 PM
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Originally posted by Dead Man Flying


Ah, of course.  And so by this logic, since it was unnecessary to "claim" kills prior to v1.10, I must conclude that landing kills in H2H never happened prior to the latest release.

Right?  Right.

-- Todd/Leviathn


stop being ignorant

landing with kills b4 1.10 wasn't the main reason people landed, it was trying to land their shot up piece of junk
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Dead Man Flying on August 14, 2002, 12:54:48 PM
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Originally posted by BenDover
stop being ignorant
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Ignorant?  I'm not the one who essentially argued a point that should, by logic, have been invalid prior to v1.10.  And yet plenty of players attempted to land their rides in H2H prior to the latest version.

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landing with kills b4 1.10 wasn't the main reason people landed, it was trying to land their shot up piece of junk


Clue me in as to why this reason no longer holds while "claiming" kills does.  In any event, shouldn't the thrill of attempting to land shot up pieces of junk also be to avoid being shot down while doing so?  And yet time and again in H2H I've seen people call, "LANDING DO NOT FIRE!" while attempting to land.  Hm.  

Explain to me then why exactly players try to land in H2H then.  For points or stats?  There are no points or stats.  For "claims?"  Maybe, but H2H is small enough that the other players will know who the hot shots are in short enough order that landing the kills really doesn't matter.  For the thrill of landing a damaged ride?  With the standard H2H convention of allowing landing planes unfettered access to the runways, "thrill" is hardly a word I'd use to describe the experience.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: BenDover on August 14, 2002, 01:31:47 PM
i guess you haven't tried to land a plane with a missing wing tip, damaged gear?


most people won't belive you got over 10 kills, therefore you need to land so it shows have many kills you got for other people


oh, and if its an FFA game, killing people landing is just a cheap kill, really requires alot of skill to shoot down a low and slow plane, doesn't it?

and i was saying you were ignorant because you were ignoring the fact that the kill system changed in 1.10


and you SHOULD be smart enough to know i'm on about post-1.10, but i guess not:rolleyes:
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: Dead Man Flying on August 14, 2002, 02:26:48 PM
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Originally posted by BenDover
i guess you haven't tried to land a plane with a missing wing tip, damaged gear?
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In H2H?  No.  Why bother?  You still haven't answered my question.


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most people won't belive you got over 10 kills, therefore you need to land so it shows have many kills you got for other people
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Which you didn't need to do prior to 1.10, and yet people still landed in H2H, thus invalidating your point.  My guess is that people currently land post-1.10 for the same reasons they landed pre-1.10.  What I don't get is just what those reasons would be.  In addition, I've flown H2H with v1.10 and never landed a single sortie, but that didn't stop everyone in the arena from trying to gang up on me because I'd racked up lots of kills.  The arena knows.

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oh, and if its an FFA game, killing people landing is just a cheap kill, really requires alot of skill to shoot down a low and slow plane, doesn't it?
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Who cares if it's easy or hard?  By definition, anything goes in a FFA environment.  Part of the thrill of landing should be avoiding those who would deny you the pleasure.  In that sense I could understand landing as a way to beat the odds or thumb your nose at would-be landing vulchers.  However, as current H2H standards frown on vulching would-be landing planes, this rarely comes into play.

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and i was saying you were ignorant because you were ignoring the fact that the kill system changed in 1.10
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And you're ignoring the fact that this hasn't really changed behavior; it's merely given you another justification for old behavior without actually explaining what causes it.

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and you SHOULD be smart enough to know i'm on about post-1.10, but i guess not


And you should be smart enough to know that my original statement included all versions, not just 1.10.

-- Todd/Leviathn
Title: 1 inch off runway
Post by: BenDover on August 14, 2002, 03:32:21 PM
ok, maybe i should have posted more, but it was late and i wanted to get to bed


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Originally posted by BenDover



duh!

claim your kills:rolleyes:

AMONG OTHER REASONS



there happy?


ok, to be honest, i've got no idea why they want to land in h2h

although i've given 3 reasons:
claim your kills
pride of landing your badly shot up plane
rearm & refuel





btw, if you think you can shout landing anytime you want in h2h, your wrong