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Title: PLZ Help with Pitch setup
Post by: Duedel on August 14, 2002, 03:59:07 AM
PLZ I need a picture of ur pitch axis adjustment (Setup->Joystick) including damping dead band etc. Thx in advance.
Title: PLZ Help with Pitch setup
Post by: Duedel on August 14, 2002, 09:18:28 AM
Forget it. Maybe i should search the BB before i post :D
Title: PLZ Help with Pitch setup
Post by: Blank on August 14, 2002, 09:31:43 AM
No i'm listening Duedel :)

Just a bit of deadband so it doesn't jump outta auto pilot and a little damping to stop the bouncing when aiming, works for me :)
Title: PLZ Help with Pitch setup
Post by: WldThing on August 14, 2002, 12:15:14 PM
This is How i Fly... Very very sensative, may take long to get use to cause you WILL snaproll ALot!
Title: PLZ Help with Pitch setup
Post by: WldThing on August 14, 2002, 12:16:49 PM
Sorry dont know how to put it as 1 reply.
Title: PLZ Help with Pitch setup
Post by: WldThing on August 14, 2002, 12:18:04 PM
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Title: PLZ Help with Pitch setup
Post by: WldThing on August 14, 2002, 12:29:05 PM
Sorry i put more than what you asked for, thought it might help....Plus i cant delete any of my posts ;)
Title: PLZ Help with Pitch setup
Post by: Shane on August 14, 2002, 12:30:28 PM
mine's the same as wld's for pitch  but due to having an apparently more sensitive stick, i increase deadband enough so that it won't spike on a miniscule off-center stick motion (force feedback stick that has a small factory deadzone in center) and raise damper enough to mostly remove any nosebounce - so it'll more or less only drop back a fraction when i center the stick from pulling back.

so...  deadband for me is about 1/3 way up, while damper would be around 3/8 way up.
Title: PLZ Help with Pitch setup
Post by: Ghosth on August 14, 2002, 12:32:22 PM
Unless your stick is unresponsive, I recomend a slider setup more like the following for most sticks. Especially if your stick is sensitive.

Exactly where you curve will make a difference but this gives you a place to start.
Title: PLZ Help with Pitch setup
Post by: SKurj on August 14, 2002, 12:41:07 PM
errrm i think... there is no point setting any of the scaling sliders any lower than your deadband...  I could be wrong...


SKurj
Title: PLZ Help with Pitch setup
Post by: Ghosth on August 14, 2002, 03:08:17 PM
Deadband controls center slop, period. If your joystick pulls loosly from center for half an inch or more before engageing the springs deadband can be used to set where action starts.

IE my 5 year old MS Sidewinder 3d pro at the end needed an inch of deadband because of wear & sloppy springs. Does not really effect the sliders.

The sliders are in effect 9 slices of your joysticks "throw" ie from center to straight back or straight forward (for pitch). That distance from center to far edge is broken into pieces, each slider represents one piece.

Setting all sliders to max across the board does give you the maximum possible responce, but at a cost. It can be very easy to overcontrol. The default step up from low left to high right gives progressive control. A curve from low left to high right gives a more gentle progressive control.
IE inputs start small, but the farther back you pull the more input you get.

Damper btw helps control overall sensitivity. As such it should be treated with respect, make small changes, test for "feel", then adjust again.
Title: PLZ Help with Pitch setup
Post by: Duedel on August 15, 2002, 04:51:34 AM
Many thx guys. My setup is like Blanks now and I'm doing fine with it. My nose bounce stopped.
Thx again