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General Forums => Hardware and Software => Topic started by: Staga on August 14, 2002, 09:15:48 AM
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After listening the whistling of fans for years I decided to change the cooling method to the water. First version had cooler and fan outside of the box but I thought there should be enough room inside that Enligh midi-case.
parts used:
CPU-block, Only4Pro Classic copper ~60€
BlackIce Pro cooler ~63€
Titan 120mm fan ~15€
Zalman FanMate rheostat for fan ~8€
Hydor Seltz L-20x o4Pro SE 700l water pump ~33€
1 meter PVC hose 10mm + other stuff ~10€
(€ is pretty much same as U.S$)
1,4GHz Athlon TB runs 38c when fan is at max rpm and when in min rpm the temp is 45c. With min rpm I can't hear that fan at all :)
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/system/inside_1.jpg)
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/system/inside_2.jpg)
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/system/outside_2.jpg)
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Wow, great job Staga. Good work. It fits in there just right.
I admire your work, and I know that water cooling is far more efficient than air. I just worry about leaks. It doesnt look like you have a hose clamp in your water block??? And I wonder what happens in the event of a pump failure...
How long will it last?
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Water block over the CPU is having hose clamps; they're visible just behind that red bar.
Pump is still missing hose clamps; it has 12mm in/out connectors and clamps I had were too small (getting bigger ones tomorrow) and one is also missing from filling hose.
Hose I did use is 10mm and 'cause pump has 12mm connectors it's almost impossible to detach the hose from the pump. Had to do it couple times and only way was cut the hose apart :)
About pump failures: Hydor pump I'm using should last longer than cheaper Sicce's and there would also be Eheim pumps thought their price is much higher than Hydor or Sicce.
Motherboard I'm using now, Soltek SL-75DRV5 (http://www.soltek.de/English/product/75drv5.htm), has "Anti burning shield" which cuts the power if temp rises too high.
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:D COOL! :D
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That was the idea :)
btw that sure is tight package; Every time I close the panel I need to guide hoses carefully so they don't bend and thus limit flow of cooling water :/
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Very nice rig! Whats next???:cool:
>>>S<<<
GOODHUNTING!
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Only4Pro is also selling modding parts. They have very nice laser-cut covers for fans with different themes like Atom, BioHazard etc :)
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Hmm maybe it's my background in the electrical industry but I shudder everytime I see one of these devices that needlessly introduce water near to electricity :)
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Dam Im impressed. Is that CPU SUPER overclocked as well?
PS: CPU temerature also determines its speed. Whats best average temp for a CPU or does it depend on which CPU etc...
:rolleyes:
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Revvin I have little electrical background too and maybe because of that I was really carefull when I was building that thing. Anyway I'm planning to build a water detector on the bottom of the case thought worst thing which could happen is fryed motherboard which is good reason to get some new hardware :D
Senna I built that 'cause I was tired to listen fans but of course I did check out how high can that system go.
My AMD TB 1,4Ghz with 133mhz FSB went up to 1575MHz/150MHz FSB by using Soltek's "RedStorm" over-clocking utility in mobo's bios.
With modified CPU (=free CPU multiplier) I believe I could get it faster than that).
CPU has enough power already so I did drop it back to 133MHz FSB, after all my intention was to get rid of fans.
There's still 6 fans inside the case: GPU, Chipset, Power supply, water cooler and two case fans thought last two's connectors are un-plugged so there's still few parts to modify :)
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Very nice job. Very clean, I like it.
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For all the Hydrophobes out there http://www.quietpc.com/ (http://www.quietpc.com/) is pretty good at getting the noise levels down. Below is their flower cooler for high end athlons/P4s, looks nuts but I have a friend who bought one and it works very well.
Gatso
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Just bought a new case; gotta see if I have time to transfer hardware/water cooling system to this one in the weekend. I also got rounded IDE-cables and a laser-cut finger cover for the fan :cool:
(http://www.kolumbus.fi/staga/xaser2.jpg)
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Nice Staga, just checked on a Koolance tower here, with power supply, cooling unit complete, price is about $210. Looks like you saved roughly $40.
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Money is not the issue but I just like to built my own stuff myself; Then I'll know what it has inside :)
I've been playing with idea of using some hitech parts like anodized fittings and stainless braided Hoses but guess I'm too lazy to start driving from a speedshop to another :D
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I have a fanless watercooling system.
I built a heat exchanger from an old radiator and it keeps my temps below 40 at all times with no fans humming.
Talk about quiet.. the power supply (its a silent model with noisekiller fans) is the loudest part of my system now. :)
I almost get scared when the cd-rom revs up when I use it.. too noisy :P
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I watercooled my Athlon XP 2200 this last weekend. I was methodical:
Every step, I did outside the computer first. I hooked up the system to the waterblock and ran it for hours to look for leaks before installing it. Before I took it apart, I purged it w/ air so it wouldn't drip when I was running the tubes.
I install it, then do an air test to check for leaks.
Then I add water and run it without power to the CPU for an hour, no leaks.
I take it apart to add some different fittings that will have better flow, and I'm proud that the whole time there wasn't even a drop on the case.
So I have the system out on my kitchen table while I check and re-check connections and fittings to ensure there isn't a leak. My wife is watering the plants behind me.
She turns around, swinging the watering can in front of her, and neatly deposits about a pint of water + miracle grow right in the middle of my RAM, on my CPU, and in PCI slots.
After a day of soaking up water and using air dusters to blow water out of nooks and crannies, I finally have my system up again and running. No permanent damage, but my system re-flashed its BIOS* because of a checksum error when it first started. Since then, everything has been fine.
(* My mobo (GA-7XVRP) has a normal BIOS, then a non-flashable copy hardwired in that will automatically restore when there's a critical problem with the BIOS itself. Neat! I don't have to worry about a bad BIOS flash knocking me out of action.)
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BTW, I'm using a MAZE3 from Dangerden.com, 1/2" fittings & tube, and a fountain pump from Home Depot I got for $24. The pump is cheap enough that if it fails, I can go out and spend the $80+ for the fancy inline pumps other people are using, but if it doesn't, I've saved a bundle.
No radiator yet, using just just a gallon resevoir for heatsink makes my temperature stabilize at 40C, not great for water, but much better then the 60C I had before with air.
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She turns around, swinging the watering can in front of her, and neatly deposits about a pint of water + miracle grow right in the middle of my RAM, on my CPU, and in PCI slots.
Ouch!! :)