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General Forums => The O' Club => Topic started by: Sandman on August 15, 2002, 11:19:31 AM
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L.A. Times Story (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-guns15aug15.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dcalifornia%2Dmanual) (registration required)
The Senate narrowly voted Wednesday to strip gun manufacturers of their exemption from liability for the damage and death that can result from firearms.
Supporters of the bill said gun makers should be held responsible for their products, as are the manufacturers of many other goods in California, from cribs to lawnmowers.
Hey MT, odds that this will be struck down as unconstitutional?
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If man A kills man B by running over him with a lawnmower, who is liable, the man on the lawnmower or the manufacturer of the lawnmower?
Oh wait! Lawnmowers aren't designed to kill, guns are. So, gun manufacturers should be held liable because their products work as designed.
mmm, hmmm.
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Hehe Apache. ;)
The spoon is why Rosie O'Donnell is fat then?
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"Hey MT, odds that this will be struck down as unconstitutional?
how bout as retarded?
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Originally posted by Ripsnort
Hehe Apache. ;)
The spoon is why Rosie O'Donnell is fat then?
THANKS! LOL
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I guess it should be the car's fault for hitting a pedestrian. Aw, wonderful, we've been sueing the wrong defendant!
Karaya2
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Originally posted by Sandman_SBM
L.A. Times Story (http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-guns15aug15.story?coll=la%2Dheadlines%2Dcalifornia%2Dmanual) (registration required)
Hey MT, odds that this will be struck down as unconstitutional?
In all fairness, the gun manufacturers should be liable when the gun fails and kills the user...such as a poorly bored barrel that lodges the bullet inside, exploding in the face of the gun user. But to say that they are responsible because dipshit John decided to kill Jack, well, thats the type of irresponsibilty that I speak of when I whine about how America has changed...clearly "We're" no longer responsible for our actions, right? It MUST be the gun manufacturer.:rolleyes:
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Hell Rip! I'll go to Home Depot, convince someone to throw a hammer at my head and have my wife sue Estwing or whatever the hammer manufacturer is. :D
My gun has only been fired in a range (Heckler & Koch USP .45). Oh, and it doesn't have a trigger lock either.
Karaya2
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Hmmm, your giving me thoughts K1...I think I'll piss the neighbor off next time he's using a hoe and if he beats me with it, I can sue all the Ho's in the world AND their pimps, right?
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Couldn't read the article, this was the California Senate right?
Why am I not surprised? :rolleyes:
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Yeah... California State Senate...
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Lame so lame. So now the isssue of crime and its agendas and how guns affect people are somehow change by this. Ha, give me back my leg.
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Sounds good to me Rip! Can I get yer Beemer? :D
Karaya2
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Sounds good to me Rip! Can I get yer Beemer? :D
Karaya2
Sorry, 6 year old son has dibs on that :D
(http://home.earthlink.net/~ripsnort/BMW/BMWGeman.jpg)
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Rip can I get yer email bud, the PM won't work on my end?
3 or 5 series? looks like a 330 but not sure. I was messing with you. Pretty ride.
Karaya2
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Originally posted by Masherbrum
Rip can I get yer email bud, the PM won't work on my end?
Karaya2
I know you were messing with me!
ripsnort60@yahoo.com
We'll talk cars then, seems this board is full of anti-BMW sentiment, lets carry it to email.
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cool is it a 330 though?
Karaya2
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yes. Did you know a 5-series has 82 sq. inches of interior room and the 3-series has 80? Hehe, hardly seems worth it.
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elitist yuppie wannabes! ;)
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Originally posted by Nifty
elitist yuppie wannabes! ;)
Heh, just a redneck in a yuppie world is more like it...I still love the reactions I get during hunting season when I throw a big elk leg bone out in the front yard and let my lab chew on it...I swear a couple yuppie neighbors probably called 911.
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I hope this bill doesn't see the light of day... hmm, a good place to put it is right up those lawmakers .. nevermind.
A bill like this would probably raise prices, and even further discourage foreign imports. Not good if I ever want to get back into smallbore.
mauser
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Well we had a gun manufacturer knowingly creating a knockoff of a banned assault weapon. Then:
He said Navegar made appeals to criminals in the promotion of the TEC-DC9, including advertising it as "fingerprint resistant" and "able to fire without aiming."
So if I were to market a lock pick, saying it could open any lock in the entire city, and some one is robbed using that lock pick. Am I liable?
I think i might be.
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Well, for one thing, you can fire any gun without aiming. You just don't aim and then pull the trigger.
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It is still, last I checked, impossible for a gun to decide to kill someone.
I know many gun folk do not like the idea of trigger locks. I am all for them, I think they would prevent accidents. I am not sure of the arguements against them (haven't heard anything, but again, haven't studied much either).
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California lawyers are rejoicing, another industry to sue. If you shoot a lawyer, who gets sued?
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Trigger locks are ok, gun safes are better. When a trigger lock is on your gun and you need it most.......yer dead. Whenever friends or family come over, I place my H&K in my bank-safe. One of my jobs allowed me to take an actual 1/2" thick Diebold bank safe home.
Granted it isn't that fireproof, HOWEVER, take the smallest drill bit that a drill can hold. One hole takes almost 8 hours with a HAMMER DRILL.
Americans need to take RESPONSIBILITY. Trigger locks aren't needed, responsible owners are all that is needed.
Karaya2
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for all of yu in california who didn't think that voteing in democrats could hurt things too much....
see?
oh.. for the stupid... you didn't get to smoke pot and you did get more freedom taken away. They didn't "give" you anything but they sure do take.
lazs
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just think of all the lives this bill will save !
I'm sure the whacked gangbanger will think twice before he pulls the trigger once this is enacted :rolleyes:
or is it the gun makers new responsibility to make sure NONE of his product makes its way into the hands of those who will use it illegally - who in their right mind would support such crap besides the lawyers - oops I said right mind - so lawyers do not count .....