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Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: brendo on August 18, 2002, 04:37:14 PM
About 5 days ago, I was online as Bishops won the AKDesert pizza map. There was much rejoicing, as a lot of people prefer the 'green' maps.

However the cheers turned to 'tears' as soon as the next map was cycled in... NDISLES... I didnt understand why everyone was so upset.

Apparently the bottom right side of the map is called 'reset corner'. If your country is in the bottom right, you are doomed by default. Well over the last 5 or so days, I have seen Bishops nearly go down daily. Things were so desperate that, reduced to an island homeland yesterday, I took the desperate step of flying a 262 from one of two remaining large fields(30 minute flight... 2 engagements; no rounds fired-- personally terrifying with 16 hours of perks on the line).

Loggin on this morning (im on holidays BTW, so I have time to follow the war), I expected that Bishops would have fallen overnight.

However, Bishops have fought back.... again!

Well done Bishops. You are certainly the strongest team in AH. Regretably, we have to fight wars on two fronts....but we have prevailed!

WTG! I hope we survive this map! Its looking better!

(From what I can see.... Knights are down two a couple of fields in the center.)
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Revvin on August 18, 2002, 05:20:26 PM
Yes Bishops have done this on numerous maps on quite a few occassions, gives you a kind of warm fuzzy feeling when you know you've helped this fight back. Of course now you'll get replies along the lines of 'gangbanging' 'they alsways have the numbers' and whatever whines people can come up with for their poor organisation for not finishing the job :p
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Toad on August 18, 2002, 05:26:01 PM
Jeebuz Cripes!

We're sounding like Rooks or Knights here!

Let's show a bit of class, please! Win with class, lose with dignity.

Leave the "chest thumping" to the vine-swingers.

You're Bish... be proud but not loud.  ;)
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: jonnyb on August 18, 2002, 05:35:14 PM
I've flown rooks since I started in AH, except for a few "exchange programs" where I flew as knight and bishop to see what life was like on the other side.  Phrases like "Rooknits", "Bishnits" and "Bishrooks" are common in every country.  Each country has its share of the victory cake as well.

Coming back from the brink of collapse, and winning the war are both great accomplishments, and each gives you a great feeling of pride.  If you wish to express your pride in your virtual country, then do so.  It's only when you start bashing the other countries that you become the target for a beating :).

So, to everyone who has been a part of an offensive that turned the tide of war.

Just the thoughts of a "vine-swinger".
Title: Re: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Hortlund on August 18, 2002, 05:40:46 PM
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Originally posted by brendo
Well done Bishops. You are certainly the strongest team in AH. Regretably, we have to fight wars on two fronts....but we have prevailed!


Dont worry about the two fronts, I know it gets hard sometimes when you only outnumber the rest of us 2-1 or something like that. But most of the time you have much better odds than that... Hang in there!!

And remember that you can always run to ack if you find yourself in a fight with even numbers.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: john9001 on August 18, 2002, 05:49:38 PM
............bishords......... ....
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: SunKing on August 18, 2002, 05:56:39 PM
I look at i this way.. After the lastest Star Wars movie it all makes sense. Bishops have the numbers 24/7 due to the cloning facility ( 2 weekers ). Knights are primarly on Pac time evenings with numbers. Rooks seem to be well, rooks. If we don't take the map during 6-10pm then it defense till the next night. Bishop are Mother Russia constantly throwing new recruits to the slaughter. I mean, they have so many they don't even bother to name em, instead its a serial number  " You shot down 3953258" Its tough going but i love fighting the bish. especially with our Knit anthem booming in the backgroud  "Smack my Bishop"
Title: Re: Re: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: sling322 on August 18, 2002, 06:12:24 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Hortlund



And remember that you can always run to ack if you find yourself in a fight with even numbers.


Glad to see you included the Knit motto in your post Hortlund.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Saintaw on August 18, 2002, 06:17:09 PM
"Smack my Bishop", lol!

Yeah, Knights just won this year's Darwin award tonight... We were under a massive assault on Mainland, and yet... 50% of them were chasing the Holy Dildo at A25 ... go figure :rolleyes:
(No, they were not enjoying a good furball, the were trying to capture A22...)

Anyway, had fun myself, shot a lot of Suicide F4U's, hordes of inbound goons. I also got shot down, that was less fun ;)
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Apar on August 18, 2002, 06:38:56 PM
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............bishords.............


It's even worse:

suicidal bishordes!

:)
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: AKDejaVu on August 18, 2002, 07:00:15 PM
The knits were down to 1 airfield and still had over 100 people on-line.  Made for one hell of a warped all to hell furball at A22.

AKDejaVu
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Hortlund on August 18, 2002, 07:11:17 PM
Lemme guess how it ended...

35 Typhoons came in at 15k and suicided on the FHs?

or

19 (x3) Lancasters came in at 47k and dropped the FHs?

or (the even more pathetic one)

19 (x3) B17s came in at 1.5k (because their pilots are too skilless to hit anything from any higher alt than that) and dropped the FHs?
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: AKDejaVu on August 18, 2002, 07:18:43 PM
What part of 100 defenders has you most confused hortlund?

And what strategy would you recomend in that situation?

AKDejaVu
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Hortlund on August 18, 2002, 07:32:16 PM
How many times have you seen a furball end because a bunch of skilless bish arrive in 35k lancs and/or 30+ Typhoons suiciding on the FHs? Because I have seen that many times. And you tell me how best to defend against that.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Thrawn on August 18, 2002, 07:32:18 PM
Bishops.  You are truly the Kings of the s/e corner.  :cool:
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: AKDejaVu on August 18, 2002, 07:36:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Hortlund
How many times have you seen a furball end because a bunch of skilless bish arrive in 35k lancs and/or 30+ Typhoons suiciding on the FHs? Because I have seen that many times. And you tell me how best to defend against that.
LOL! OK.. it musta ended like that then Hortlund.

:rolleyes:
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Heinkel on August 18, 2002, 07:39:27 PM
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How many times have you seen a furball end because a bunch of skilless bish arrive in 35k lancs and/or 30+ Typhoons suiciding on the FHs? Because I have seen that many times. And you tell me how best to defend against that.


The typhoon thing happens all the time. I have seen numerous fights ended due to a hord of typhoons comming in and just slaming into the FH's.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Innominate on August 18, 2002, 08:19:32 PM
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Originally posted by Heinkel


The typhoon thing happens all the time. I have seen numerous fights ended due to a hord of typhoons comming in and just slaming into the FH's.


What else are we supposed to do to capture the field?  Ask you guys nicely to let our goon through?  Fly defenseless lancs 12k over the field, and miss everything?  Or are we supposed to just kill 100 fighters fast enough that we can cap the field before any get the chance to take off again?
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Hortlund on August 18, 2002, 08:24:58 PM
Yup...sounds like a bish general to me. :rolleyes:
"Now I want you guys to suicide your typhoons on the FHs because our bomber pilots cant hit if they come in above 5k"
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Heinkel on August 18, 2002, 08:27:29 PM
I am not talking about capping the last feild..more along the lines of a 40 vs 40 Furball. A mess of typhoons will come in and sucide the feild. I remeber months back that Typhoons used to attack bases and live. They came in 12k'ish. Jaboed the hangers, then attacked the acks/fuel/ ect....Now they just ram the hangers.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Innominate on August 18, 2002, 08:27:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Hortlund
Yup...sounds like a bish general to me. :rolleyes:
"Now I want you guys to suicide your typhoons on the FHs because our bomber pilots cant hit if they come in above 5k"


AHHH
So we're supposed to send bombers, which virtually everyone who flies one agrees are worthless for hitting fields(Jabos are always more effective), take a half hour to get to altitude, another 10minutes to get to speed, and then have 90% of them miss thier targets.  So basicly, anything that resets the knights is no good?

lol.
Don't whine because the bish won even though we have been ganged since the beginning of the map.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: brendo on August 18, 2002, 08:39:00 PM
If it makes you feel better Hortland, the Ken-niggets died bravely........ when they were down to 1 field, about 50 pilots insisted on committing suicide over and over and over and over again, until all their hangers were bombed out.

It wasnt the brave Bishop Typhoon pilots that Kamakazied.... it was guys, who insisted on trying to take off with 100 enemy fighters pounding the field.

10 Rem Last field defence program
20 Select LA7...25 fuel.
30 Click on a runway..... Press E....Press P.... Boom. Back to Tower.
40 Goto 30


- - -
Edited due to bad coding :cool:
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Hortlund on August 18, 2002, 08:43:27 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Innominate


AHHH
So we're supposed to send bombers, which virtually everyone who flies one agrees are worthless for hitting fields(Jabos are always more effective), take a half hour to get to altitude, another 10minutes to get to speed, and then have 90% of them miss thier targets.  So basicly, anything that resets the knights is no good?

lol.
Don't whine because the bish won even though we have been ganged since the beginning of the map.


Did I say "you should have sent bombers instead"?

Do you even realize that you are assuming that I meant something, and then you proceed to argue against what you think I meant?  In effect, this is about as pointless as the rest of us sitting here and just watching you talk to yourself.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Hortlund on August 18, 2002, 08:45:58 PM
Quote
Originally posted by brendo
If it makes you feel better Hortland, the Ken-niggets died bravely........ when they were down to 1 field, about 50 pilots insisted on committing suicide over and over and over and over again, until all their hangers were bombed out.

It wasnt the brave Bishop Typhoon pilots that Kamakazied.... it was guys, who insisted on trying to take off with 100 enemy fighters pounding the field.

10 Rem Last field defence program
20 Select LA7...25 fuel.
30 Click on a runway..... Press E....Press P.... Boom. Back to Tower.
40 Goto 30


- - -
Edited due to bad coding :cool:  


Let me guess...you are in the middle of your two week free trial?

Not many people see up to "brave kamikazes", mostly because that takes about as much skill as being able to turn on the computer...but I guess there is a first for everything. Enjoy your $15 if you should decide to subscribe.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Saintaw on August 18, 2002, 08:57:20 PM
Ahem, Time for bed Steve :D

Stop pickin on those tards, CT's up with a nice map & an early setup. That's where I went when I saw the final  suicidal borg comming. If augerin' makes em proud & gives them a sense of acomplishment(sp?) let em have it. :rolleyes:

PS: brendo, no one has coded anything in basic for a decade now I think ;)
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Hortlund on August 18, 2002, 09:00:23 PM
Oh, I forgot to tell you saw, I have a 2 week vacation now (great way to start my vacation ... up at 4 am arguing with morons), so I'll be online a bit more often now :)

Anyway what are you doing up at 4am?
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Saintaw on August 18, 2002, 09:09:20 PM
Stopped smokin' remember :(

Can't sleep and am too nervous to fly, so... I'm lurking here, looking for a weak soul to Vulch :D
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Toad on August 18, 2002, 09:14:16 PM
See? See what happens?  :D
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Saintaw on August 18, 2002, 09:24:36 PM
Shut up Toad :D (this was my 2000th post btw :p )
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Innominate on August 18, 2002, 09:25:33 PM
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Originally posted by Saintaw

PS: brendo, no one has coded anything in basic for a decade now I think ;)


while(hangar->fighter == HANGAR_UP)
{
     set_fuel(25);
     fly(DIR_NORTH, PLANE_LA7);
     die(VULCHED);
}

Problem for the reader: How many languages could this code be valid in?

:D:D:D
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Bluedog on August 18, 2002, 09:35:02 PM
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Originally posted by SunKing
....... especially with our Knit anthem booming in the backgroud  "Smack my Bishop"



ROTFLMAO!! :)
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Tumor on August 18, 2002, 09:45:12 PM
Bish!!  The way the Knits ran thier war today they (we) deserved a severe ass-kicking.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Scott E on August 18, 2002, 10:11:49 PM
then bish got reset twice in 2 hours by 200 rooks and 150 knits
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: eddiek on August 18, 2002, 10:47:32 PM
and cried the whole time........well, ONE bish did (hint....he was an AK).......:p
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Toad on August 19, 2002, 12:10:27 AM
This is why your old high school coach told yas ".. and fellas, look... once we DO get in the endzone, act like you've been there before, OK?"

:)
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Shiva on August 19, 2002, 12:14:55 AM
Quote
Yeah, Knights just won this year's Darwin award tonight... We were under a massive assault on Mainland, and yet... 50% of them were chasing the Holy Dildo at A25 ... go figure
(No, they were not enjoying a good furball, the were trying to capture A22...)


Well, for myself, I was tooling around in a GV on the central island, and picked up a personal milestone -- I was in an M8 and gunned down a PzIV spawning NW from V2, working at a range of around 1800 yards. Watching my fire arcing down and falling around him as I adjusted my lead (well, until I blew off a track) and elevation was really fun -- and being able to track and kill a target at that range was a nice skill test.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Voss on August 19, 2002, 12:53:15 AM
Actually, the turning point was when, reduced to two fields, the new dicta of AKDejaVu was adopted by the Bishops.

"Off your duffs, mates! It's time to attack!"
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Lizard3 on August 19, 2002, 02:00:58 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Toad
This is why your old high school coach told yas ".. and fellas, look... once we DO get in the endzone, act like you've been there before, OK?"

:)


In Alabama we attribute that quote to Bear Bryant :)
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: devious on August 19, 2002, 04:04:44 AM
to all the Knights in the valiant defense effort to hold our main island. It took 3 Days of fighting on two fronts to bring Knitland to it's knees, days of heroic CV bombings without regard for our own lives, getting it on in 3:1 furballs, breaking enemy vulch-caps... it was fun !
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: jonnyb on August 19, 2002, 08:33:11 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Innominate


while(hangar->fighter == HANGAR_UP)
{
     set_fuel(25);
     fly(DIR_NORTH, PLANE_LA7);
     die(VULCHED);
}

Problem for the reader: How many languages could this code be valid in?

:D:D:D


At least perl and php.  Probably tcl and python, though I never use them.  Oh, I'm sure you could force that into looking something like C or C++.  Personally, I was thinking:

Country myCountry = Map.pickCountryWithMostPlayer s();

while(stillFieldsAvailable())
{
  int fieldNumber = myCountry.findBusiestField();
  moveTo(fieldNumber);
  while(isAvailable(Hangar.FIGHTER))
  {
    Plane myPlane = getRandomDweebPlane();
    fly(myPlane, Direction.NORTH);
  }
}

;)
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: gofaster on August 19, 2002, 09:31:24 AM
Quote
Originally posted by devious
to all the Knights in the valiant defense effort to hold our main island. It took 3 Days of fighting on two fronts to bring Knitland to it's knees, days of heroic CV bombings without regard for our own lives, getting it on in 3:1 furballs, breaking enemy vulch-caps... it was fun !


Yeah, we Knights actually had a numbers advantage at one point, but only just managed to bring the base count number to parity with the other sides.  Took us all of three days to fall, which isn't bad considering how quickly we fell the previous 4 maps.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Fariz on August 19, 2002, 11:59:47 AM
Quote
Originally posted by devious
to all the Knights in the valiant defense effort to hold our main island. It took 3 Days of fighting on two fronts to bring Knitland to it's knees, days of heroic CV bombings without regard for our own lives, getting it on in 3:1 furballs, breaking enemy vulch-caps... it was fun !


days of heroic CV bombings without regard for our own lives

They squeak about "bishops skill less suicidal attacks", while calling their own suicidal attacks "heroic". All in a same thread :D
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: DrDea on August 19, 2002, 12:50:08 PM
Ever think maby,just MABY the pilot of that Tiffy either blew himself up being to close to the hanger when the rocks hit or flatout tooled it and couldnt pull out?    I know IVE splattered a few dodging ack and not geting out of the hangers way.:rolleyes:
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Pei on August 19, 2002, 12:56:36 PM
At one stage on Saturday it was Knights 35, Rooks 25 and Bish 7 (or something much like that). Knights had just rolled Bish back from the centre of our home island to the edge of theirs as well as pushed Rooks back north to gain a lead. I was just beginning to think we had a reset coming when the majority of knights decided it was time to leave bish alone and take the central islands from Rooks. Where are our strat potatos when we need them? :).

btw salute to Bish for the big tiffie raid that took a35 from us earlier that afternoon. I was one of the poor defenders and it was quite impressive. I didn't see any kamikaze attacks in the short time I lasted.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Arfann on August 19, 2002, 12:59:34 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Toad
Jeebuz Cripes!

We're sounding like Rooks or Knights here!

Let's show a bit of class, please! Win with class, lose with dignity.

Leave the "chest thumping" to the vine-swingers.

You're Bish... be proud but not loud.  ;)


Hey, ease up on the squeakups!  They generally got so little to be proud of, let 'em have their little moment of glory.  :)
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: ET on August 19, 2002, 01:54:42 PM
Hey Knights
I was in on that A22 attack and was amazed at how many of you did not quit coming up to save the base. When the FHs went down once, the VH came up and you swarmed out of it in GVs. Before the GVs got killed a FH came up and you swarmed in fighters. And before last hanger got killed, you swarmed in bombers. Was a great defensive effort against odds.
to those of you who made that effort.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: DarkHawk on August 19, 2002, 03:24:36 PM
I salute the bish for their valid defense against the numbers attacking on sunday night.
WTG
I fly ROOK, and I have since I started in flying AH, but your defense of you last bases were
an outstanding performance. It is a shame that the odds are not more in balance.
Again I Salute all of you

Regards...........DarkHawk
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: CptTrips on August 19, 2002, 03:40:34 PM
Even ants can kill a lion if there is enough of them.  

Nice job Rooks. ;)

Wab
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Mino on August 19, 2002, 11:28:11 PM
I was there and yes the Bishops did fight back nicely....

That and the Rooks gangbanging the hell out of the Knights NW bases.  :)

The Bishops should give the Rooks a big high five for that one.
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: Apar on August 20, 2002, 03:47:43 AM
Quote
At one stage on Saturday it was Knights 35, Rooks 25 and Bish 7


Which year was that Pei???? ;)
Title: Bishops defeat 'reset corner'
Post by: gofaster on August 20, 2002, 08:14:29 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Pei
At one stage on Saturday it was Knights 35, Rooks 25 and Bish 7 (or something much like that). Knights had just rolled Bish back from the centre of our home island to the edge of theirs as well as pushed Rooks back north to gain a lead. I was just beginning to think we had a reset coming when the majority of knights decided it was time to leave bish alone and take the central islands from Rooks. Where are our strat potatos when we need them? :).

btw salute to Bish for the big tiffie raid that took a35 from us earlier that afternoon. I was one of the poor defenders and it was quite impressive. I didn't see any kamikaze attacks in the short time I lasted.


Yeah, I remember looking at that score Saturday night and thinking "hey, I can just play defense up north and let our offense finish off the job down south."  And then the offensive stalled and the Rook offense put a carrier amongst our bases and started hitting the fields from there.  I held out as long as I could, but there was just too darn many of them Rooks.  They were hitting us from 3 different directions and a lot of our guys were simply orbiting the field, which is the worst way to defend a base because the Rooks simply took some P-51Ds and Typhoons into a shallow dive, pegged out to 400 knots and outran the coverage to target.

Then the Bishops got their pilot numbers back and started hitting us and leaving the Rooks alone.  We were swarmed from the north and the south and succumbed.  Oh well.