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Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Heinkel on August 19, 2002, 02:48:10 PM
For ratings the stupick diddlys show a dog being gased. How freking sick are these guys.

http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/08/19/terror.tape.chemical/index.html
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: gofaster on August 19, 2002, 02:50:06 PM
Everyone knows dogs are for loving.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Heinkel on August 19, 2002, 02:51:45 PM
BTW:I didn't watch the video and I am not going too. I was talking to a freind and he told me about, so I looked on the site, and sure enough it was there. It would have been a lot easier to say "We have found tapes showing Al queda chemical tests". Than to show a dog being frekkin gased. CNN makes it sound like this is new news...Yeah everyone knows Iraq has chemical weapons...and if they have them, Al Quida sure will. Some pretty sick guys at Cnn
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on August 19, 2002, 04:59:46 PM
[The coalition sources said no intelligence agency is believed to have seen such poison-gas experiments before this tape

... And I'm the queen of England.:eek:  (French Idiom).
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Heinkel on August 19, 2002, 05:02:28 PM
Do these intelligenct agencys live 100000 ft under ground? Everyone saw/knows of Saddam's "Test" of his chemical weapons.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on August 19, 2002, 05:11:24 PM
It's American propaganda for the Average American. Of course any intelligence organization is aware of this for years.

"We didn't know about it" is more fogiven than "we knew but did nothing". The average public opinion has no understanding of the complexity of the geopolitical situation and it's answer is mostly : "Let's nuke the bastards... yeah!".

In the Intelligence business you are often fighting with one hand tied in the back to try to minimize the secondary effects of your actions.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on August 19, 2002, 05:13:34 PM
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Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: midnight Target on August 19, 2002, 05:17:13 PM
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Originally posted by Heinkel
Do these intelligenct agencys live 100000 ft under ground? Everyone saw/knows of Saddam's "Test" of his chemical weapons.


What they are saying is that this is an Al Quaeda test. Not Iraqi.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: midnight Target on August 19, 2002, 05:18:50 PM
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...Yeah everyone knows Iraq has chemical weapons...and if they have them, Al Quida sure will.


If we all know this then why all the hubub about whether we should attack Iraq?
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on August 19, 2002, 05:19:12 PM
And by who are they trained for?
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on August 19, 2002, 05:24:54 PM
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Originally posted by midnight Target


If we all know this then why all the hubub about whether we should attack Iraq?


Didn't read my post earlier Midnight did you? How about creating a vague of retaliation in pro-American countries by the Arab coalition supporting Irak and outraged by a military action on oppressed Irak?
Oh you don't care, it's not in your backyard ... yet.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on August 19, 2002, 05:26:24 PM
I keep clicking the wrong button my bad :D
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: straffo on August 19, 2002, 05:37:06 PM
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Originally posted by SFRT - Frenchy
[The coalition sources said no intelligence agency is believed to have seen such poison-gas experiments before this tape

... And I'm the queen of England.:eek:  (French Idiom).


hum ... isn't it the queer of England ?

héhé :D


A mon avis tu perd ton temps avec ce genre de discution :)
Nos amis americain peuvent être charmant mais rester complétement bouchés sur certains points ...
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on August 19, 2002, 05:44:26 PM
Tu as raison, mais je suis un eternel optimiste. Mr Sylvestre et ses amis de la Bob World Companie n'ont rien a apprendre des mangeurs de fromages qui pue.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Daff on August 19, 2002, 05:53:11 PM
And just what do you think the US tests it's chemicals on?.

Daff
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Animal on August 19, 2002, 05:55:08 PM
Come on, evil taliban gassing a dog.

We have gassed (among other worse deaths) monkeys, dogs, rabbits, birds, etc.

But if its done over there its TERRORISM
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: john9001 on August 19, 2002, 05:59:35 PM
CNN is sick?? CNN didn't poison the dog, Al Quida poisoned the dog, the peace loving muslems ( Al Quida  ) were testing the poison they want to kill YOU with.

is killing dogs against Islam????
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Soviet on August 19, 2002, 06:04:20 PM
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Originally posted by john9001
CNN is sick?? CNN didn't poison the dog, Al Quida poisoned the dog, the peace loving muslems ( Al Quida  ) were testing the poison they want to kill YOU with.

is killing dogs against Islam????


What i find sick is the fact that CNN charges you to see it's videos.  (the last time i checked at least).  So to see people/animals suffering you have to pay a fee.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Heinkel on August 19, 2002, 06:08:41 PM
Yeah, but CNN is throwing this video around like they are proud of it or somthing.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: easymo on August 19, 2002, 06:46:41 PM
We shouldn't overlook the potential for important news, here.  This tells us a lot about CNN
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Epsilon 5 on August 19, 2002, 06:48:28 PM
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A mon avis tu perd ton temps avec ce genre de discution :)
Nos amis americain peuvent être charmant mais rester complétement bouchés sur certains points ...


C'est quoi le rapport?

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Tu as raison, mais je suis un eternel optimiste. Mr Sylvestre et ses amis de la Bob World Companie n'ont rien a apprendre des mangeurs de fromages qui pue.


Est-que vous écrivez cela que pour niaiser sur le fait que vous savez écrire en français? De toute façon, j'ai trouvé plein d'erreurs :P
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: SFRT - Frenchy on August 19, 2002, 07:14:57 PM
Epsilon, il faut etre Francais pour comprendre, cf "Les Guignols de L'info", Canal +.

A par cela, Je ne comprends pas l'objectif de ta remarque. Pourait tu l'expliquer STP?
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Saintaw on August 19, 2002, 08:13:06 PM
uhooo, this board is starting to have a stinking(cheeze) neighbourhood :D

And no, I am not watching that either.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Kanth on August 19, 2002, 11:06:38 PM
Awwwwww das cute =)

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Originally posted by gofaster
Everyone knows dogs are for loving.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Tumor on August 19, 2002, 11:46:26 PM
Hate to see this, and as much as I can't stand CNN I believe they chose a good time to provide a simple and graphic reminder of who we are dealing with.  It has nothing to do with what we've done in testing on animals... it's what THEY will do with thier testing.  The public need little things like this (unfortunately) or the next thing you know we'll have whacko's trying to set up support groups and therapy session's for these animals (err... Tal/AQ, I suppose animal's is too good a description).

Tumor
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Epsilon 5 on August 20, 2002, 12:02:38 AM
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Epsilon, il faut etre Francais pour comprendre, cf "Les Guignols de L'info", Canal +.


Je suis Québécois, je n'ai pas accès à ce canal.

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A par cela, Je ne comprends pas l'objectif de ta remarque. Pourait tu l'expliquer STP?


Comme tu a dis avant ...

Nos amis americain peuvent être charmant mais rester complétement bouchés sur certains points ...

Quel est le but de cette remarque??
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Sandman on August 20, 2002, 12:44:34 AM
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Originally posted by Heinkel
Yeah, but CNN is throwing this video around like they are proud of it or somthing.


It's the media. WE are the product being sold.

It's all about advertising and selling our attention.

Turn it off. You might find you like the world more that way.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: funkedup on August 20, 2002, 12:52:12 AM
I hate dogs.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: whgates3 on August 20, 2002, 06:29:49 AM
i find it highly doubtful that after ocupying Afghanistan for nearly a year, this videotape surfaces just now.  Were i the present u.s. gov't, i would love to use 09/11/03 & the associated sentiment to kick start a pre-election was with Iraq.  I infer the tape suggesting that Iraq, the only known holder & user of chem/bio weapons in the moslem world, has obvioulsy supplied the Al Queda terrorists (pronounced "trsts") with such & desereves punishment.  

they're all controlled by the CIA or some other less visible organization & have been so since the Nixon/Bush wing of the repiblican party took over the white house 34 years ago.  

you may think i'm nuts, but i think you're naive
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: GRUNHERZ on August 20, 2002, 06:55:01 AM
Ahh yes the dreaded Nixon/Bush team sure took over the party exactly 34 years ago...

I bet you get called nuts a lot, right?
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: straffo on August 20, 2002, 07:06:59 AM
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Originally posted by Epsilon 5


Comme tu a dis avant ...

Nos amis americain peuvent être charmant mais rester complétement bouchés sur certains points ...

Quel est le but de cette remarque??


Le probleme est que tu ne fait pas la remarque à la bonne personne ...

JE suis celui qui à écrit cette phrase ...

Ce que je veux dire par cette phrase c'est qu'autant nos amis americain peuvent-être ouvert et agréables autant ils peuvent se comporter en trou du cul sur certains sujets

Cette opinion est la mienne et je la partage :)

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Est-que vous écrivez cela que pour niaiser sur le fait que vous savez écrire en français


j'ai un probleme avec cette phrase ... le verbe niaiser n'existe pas dans mon dictionnaire :(
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: straffo on August 20, 2002, 07:13:36 AM
Euh d'ailleur pour préciser un peu  ....
Il y a tellement peu de francophone sur ce forum que le simple fait d'écrire en français et un moyen de discuter en quelque sorte en privé :)

Concerning the initial post

Possibly the saddest and scariest tape of all those included in the archive of 64 al Qaeda tapes obtained by CNN is the one that shows the killing of three dogs.


I'm pretty shocked by the coment I've outlined ...

How can the death of a dog be more saddest and scariest than the death of a human ?
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: CyranoAH on August 20, 2002, 07:38:24 AM
Ahh aujourd'hui trop de gens comprennent le français pour faire de votre petite conversation un affair privé :p

Ah, le catalan, c'est une autre chose, ça... trés privée, vraiment :D

Perque com em posi a parlar en Català, no sé jo si m'entendria gaire gent. ;)

Daniel, aka Cyrano
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: straffo on August 20, 2002, 07:57:39 AM
pffff ....

Je peux survivre en Catalogne la preuve :

un gelat, sis plau

pan con/y tomate, sis plau

gaudi (indigeste je sais ;))

et pour finir : bon profit

voila maintenant tu connais toute mon vocabulaire :D
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: CyranoAH on August 20, 2002, 08:07:45 AM
Pas mal! :D

Des petites corrections:

SVP: si us plau
du pain avec le tomate: pa amb tomàquet
Merci: Gràcies, Mercès

C'est tout, maintenant tu peux vraiment survivre en Catalogne :D

Daniel
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Eagler on August 20, 2002, 08:28:27 AM
then they sold the dog to a Korean meat market ....


heard they also sprayed some guy in a afgany market place with some chemical, followed him home & watched him die two days later...

I don't need to see a video to realize the world will be a better place when these sand sucking raghead animals are toast ...
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: popeye on August 20, 2002, 08:44:35 AM
Guess which country played the major role in developing chemical and biological weapons:

1.  USSR
2.  USA
3.  Afghanistan
4.  Iraq

(Hint:  It wasn't Afghanistan...or Iraq.)

Guess which country has killed the most dogs testing chemical and biological weapons:

1.  USSR
2.  USA
3.  Afghanistan
4.  Iraq

(Hint:  It wasn't Afghanistan...or Iraq.)
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: ra on August 20, 2002, 09:02:00 AM
I can't believe you guys are up in arms over a frikkin mutt.  About a year ago these same a-holes killed 3000 humans, remember?

Anyone who creates chemical weapons tests them on animals.  And dogs are being killed in your local dog pound right now.  I hear they stick em in a chamber and suck out the air.

Also, there are reportly some human beheadings on the tape which CNN didn't show, so you can't accuse CNN of maximizing the shock value in this case.

But CNN does suck.

ra
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: midnight Target on August 20, 2002, 09:46:00 AM
Those French, Its like they have a different word for everything! - Steve Martin
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Epsilon 5 on August 20, 2002, 10:11:59 AM
Après que je suis bilingue (que je connais l'anglais suffisament bien), je veux apprendre l'allemand :D

Bien sur il ne serait pas étonnant que plusieurs personnes connaissent l'allemand ici, considérant la nature du forum de discussions.

Le français est ma langue maternelle.

EDIt : damn typos :rolleyes:
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Epsilon 5 on August 20, 2002, 10:14:00 AM
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Originally posted by midnight Target
Those French, Its like they have a different word for everything! - Steve Martin


LOL! not close, you just have to look at the chinese and japanese language, they DO have a word for everything ... or close to.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Sikboy on August 20, 2002, 10:43:25 AM
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Originally posted by ra
I can't believe you guys are up in arms over a frikkin mutt.


I don't think that we are mad that the killed the dog, or that they showed it on CNN. What bugs us is that by gassing the dog, they rendered it inedible.

-Sikboy
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Kanth on August 20, 2002, 12:29:57 PM
Maybe yer getting dogs confused with the lesser animals that are getting the air sucked out of their containers..

http://www.hitechcreations.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=62111

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Originally posted by ra
 And dogs are being killed in your local dog pound right now.  I hear they stick em in a chamber and suck out the air.
ra
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: whgates3 on August 20, 2002, 01:13:09 PM
i readily admit that i am a freak, but i figure whatever points i lose on that i make back on interesting & unique points of view...i use to be involved with an investment newsletter the concept of which was that by correctly predicting political events, one could make wise investment choices.  as a result the newletter was very into gathering interesting intelligence info.  you would surprised (& probably offended) at some of the info available in D.C. that goes unreported
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Maverick on August 20, 2002, 01:15:57 PM
Just a couple of notes here. Lots of folks castigating CNN but this was also on NBC last night.

Seriously, would you have believed the report had there been no video or would you have just figured it was another "trumped up" report just to capture ratings. Seems to me that most folks only believe what they can see, not just what someone tells them. This was just a reminder of the kind of "people" we are dealing with here. They are NOT the average folks you meet on the street. They have declared a war on the general population of this country and do not have any regard as to how they kill you. This goes for age, denomination, (except for the "good muslims" living here of course) or lifestyle.

If this had been released by the federal govt. I'd bet there would be plenty of posts about how this was a made up situation just to "inflame" the population to garner support. You know, you can be TOO cynical at times.

As to the fate of the dog. I feel sorry for it but I feel much more sorry for the 3,000 innocent PEOPLE who were killed by the same animals that killed the dog.
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: Heinkel on August 20, 2002, 02:04:43 PM
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The public need little things like this (unfortunately)


IMO Watching the WTC's go down was enough, I dont think people need to see a dog die to know that Al Quedia is our enemy.

I can see CNN"s headline tomorrow:

Terrioits test Nuclear weapon on cat: Click here to view video
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: funkedup on August 20, 2002, 02:09:01 PM
"ils peuvent se comporter en trou du cul sur certains sujets"

On peut aussi le dire de quelques autres pays...

:D
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: straffo on August 20, 2002, 02:15:20 PM
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Originally posted by Epsilon 5
Après que je suis bilingue (que je connais l'anglais suffisament bien), je veux apprendre l'allemand :D

Bien sur il ne serait pas étonnant que plusieurs personnes connaissent l'allemand ici, considérant la nature du forum de discussions.

Le français est ma langue maternelle.

EDIt : damn typos :rolleyes:


Bien compris :)

En fait d'apres ce que j'ai compris AH est le plus international des simulateurs de vol (comparé a AW ou WB)
Et je suis sur qu'il y a des germanophones dans le coin je vole avec certain tout les soirs ;)

J'ai trouvé le sens du verbe "niaiser" mais c'est pas du français c'est du Quebequois mon cher cousin :p

De toute façon je suis comme tous les français j'ai envie d'aller dans la belle province un jour  mais toi tu à la chance d'y être déjà :)
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: straffo on August 20, 2002, 02:20:51 PM
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Originally posted by funkedup
"ils peuvent se comporter en trou du cul sur certains sujets"

On peut aussi le dire de quelques autres pays...

:D


J'ai un miroir à la maison :p

On peu s'aimer sans être d'accord tout le temps sinon on s'ennuirait :)

et ça fait parti des traditions maintenant





btw I still piss on the NY Times writers :D
Title: CNN Does it Again
Post by: funkedup on August 20, 2002, 02:52:12 PM
:D